Major CFB was never righteous

[Alogan1983]

Bear Bryant admitted that at A&M some players were paid...over 60 years ago.

SMU death penalty is almost 40 years old.

Auburn had a payroll when Terry Bowden was hired.

Bama paid Albert Means $200k a quarter century ago and then he couldn't make the starting lineup at Memphis.

Reggie Bush had his Heisman stripped 20 years ago. (2004)

Now, it's just in the open and the NCAA seems to have given up. But it always went on. CFB didn't suddenly become more righteous over the past 20+ years since those things happened. It was still happening all along.

It's almost like believing beautiful women stopped lying or something, they always have. But love makes you believe her. That's what I liken it to. Most major programs I am certain were crooked in some kind of way.

NIL just took the password off her phone so you can see her text, now.

 

[Bazza]

 

[TideEngineer08]

Nah.

I do not disagree that "paying players" has always gone on. They were getting paid in the 20s. Of course that was prior to the ncaa.

However you take the worst of what was going on in the 1980s in the SWC, and what we have now is infinitely worse - and of course is legal.

By worse I mean the sums of money is much larger. The number of players getting paid is far more. And the destruction of the concept of a team is far more complete.

 

[rolltide7854]

My biggest problem was with schools that didn't make sure that the players didn't at least get an education to fall back on. There is no excuse for players graduating college and not even can read.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

No one is claiming CFB was ever Lilly white pure. But if anyone thinks it was close to what we currently have wrt the transfer portal AND the NIL just has their head stuck neck deep in the sand.

 

[Tidelines]

Bear Bryant admitted that at A&M some players were paid...over 60 years ago.

SMU death penalty is almost 40 years old.

Auburn had a payroll when Terry Bowden was hired.

Bama paid Albert Means $200k a quarter century ago and then he couldn't make the starting lineup at Memphis.

Reggie Bush had his Heisman stripped 20 years ago. (2004)

Now, it's just in the open and the NCAA seems to have given up. But it always went on. CFB didn't suddenly become more righteous over the past 20+ years since those things happened. It was still happening all along.

It's almost like believing beautiful women stopped lying or something, they always have. But love makes you believe her. That's what I liken it to. Most major programs I am certain were crooked in some kind of way.

NIL just took the password off her phone so you can see her text, now.

You forgot the Tennessee pay scale when the "General" was coach.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

No, college football was never virgin pure.

But today’s wretched excess is beyond anything reasonable. $100 handshakes were scandalous at the time. By today’s standards, they’re quaint.

To say that today’s seven-figure pay-for-play and me-first attitudes are OK because CFB was never what it was portrayed to be is to say that fully-clothed making out in her parents’ driveway is equivalent to working in Amsterdam‘s red light district.

None of us are perfect. All of us have done things we wish we hadn’t, and not done things we wish we had. Therefore there should be no trials, judges or prisons.

One does not follow the other.

 

[dtgreg]

My biggest problem was with schools that didn't make sure that the players didn't at least get an education to fall back on. There is no excuse for players graduating college and not even can read.

And this is how you know the system is rigged and filthy. That "University" should lose its accreditation. SACS is a sick joke. When James Brooks can GRADUATE from Auburn unable to read and testifies in open court to that fact and when Bobby Lee Hurt can get into Alabama unable to read, well, what are we even doing here?

 

[Elefantman]

I expect the NIL pendulum will start to move the other direction when these idiot boosters start to realize they are not getting a good ROI for these NIL contracts. I would expect more NIL deals will come with more strings attached, like repayment for a portion of the proceeds if you transfer out.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

My biggest problem was with schools that didn't make sure that the players didn't at least get an education to fall back on. There is no excuse for players graduating college and not even can read.

Graduating college? How about graduating from elementary and HS and can't read? The adults did the kids zero favors by passing them through grade school knowing they couldn't read.

 

[colbysullivan]

Bear Bryant admitted that at A&M some players were paid...over 60 years ago.

SMU death penalty is almost 40 years old.

Auburn had a payroll when Terry Bowden was hired.

Bama paid Albert Means $200k a quarter century ago and then he couldn't make the starting lineup at Memphis.

Reggie Bush had his Heisman stripped 20 years ago. (2004)

Now, it's just in the open and the NCAA seems to have given up. But it always went on. CFB didn't suddenly become more righteous over the past 20+ years since those things happened. It was still happening all along.

It's almost like believing beautiful women stopped lying or something, they always have. But love makes you believe her. That's what I liken it to. Most major programs I am certain were crooked in some kind of way.

NIL just took the password off her phone so you can see her text, now.

K

 

[Cruloc]

Bear Bryant admitted that at A&M some players were paid...over 60 years ago.

SMU death penalty is almost 40 years old.

Auburn had a payroll when Terry Bowden was hired.

Bama paid Albert Means $200k a quarter century ago and then he couldn't make the starting lineup at Memphis.

Reggie Bush had his Heisman stripped 20 years ago. (2004)

Now, it's just in the open and the NCAA seems to have given up. But it always went on. CFB didn't suddenly become more righteous over the past 20+ years since those things happened. It was still happening all along.

It's almost like believing beautiful women stopped lying or something, they always have. But love makes you believe her. That's what I liken it to. Most major programs I am certain were crooked in some kind of way.

NIL just took the password off her phone so you can see her text, now.

A comparison of the past to what's going on now is.....grasping at straws.

 

[bamaga]

I guess we needed another thread on this

 

[RammerJammer14]

Nah.

I do not disagree that "paying players" has always gone on. They were getting paid in the 20s. Of course that was prior to the ncaa.

However you take the worst of what was going on in the 1980s in the SWC, and what we have now is infinitely worse - and of course is legal.

By worse I mean the sums of money is much larger. The number of players getting paid is far more. And the destruction of the concept of a team is far more complete.

Yep. It’s a bit like saying, well, some people have always shoplifted. So let’s just go ahead and make it legal to shoplift.

The boundaries of what is acceptable in college athletics have been moved so far, it’s not even the same league or sport anymore.

 

[crimsonaudio]

This is being discussed to death all over the forum, no need for yet another thread.