Saying Obama is "arrogant" makes you a racist

[Tidewater]

Third, having said that I think it is extremely naive to think that there is not a significant amount of dislike of BO stemming from his race.

I can't speak for others, I do not support the man because he is not particularly bright, is dishonest (even by Washington standards), and is not proving to be very effective as a leader.
To test the theory, I would be pleased as punch to replace him with Alan Keyes (who, although a little bit kooky, has forgotten more about the Constitution than Obama will ever know) or Colin Powell (with whose positions I don't always agree, but whose judgment I do trust).
Schmucks like Olberman would spin that into racism somehow, but such an argument would be more a statement of Olberman's inability to reason coherently than a statement on my political beliefs or views on race.

 

[gmart74]

Third, having said that I think it is extremely naive to think that there is not a significant amount of dislike of BO stemming from his race.

i am actually surprised at how little people think of his race when they talk about why they dislike him. i would have expected to hear some of it but i have heard exactly one racist joke about him and maybe three other times heard his race in the conversation. other than those times the 100's of other discussions have all centered around his policies or just hating democrats in general. im not sure why so many democrats are using the race card but i just dont see it in private or public conversations. bc of that i think it is just a weak excuse so demos can wrap their brains around the fact that some people have serious issues with THE ONE'S policies and why we dont have tingles going down our legs while we should be blindly worshipping him. my personal issues arent so much with him as it is with congress. so im lukewarm on him at best but i really dont care about him and his race isnt even a factor. i believe the vast majority of people feel the same way. but if ya need to play the race card crutch then go right ahead. i see this a lot in maryland and i just dont quite understand how so many people up here can see racism around every corner yet i never come across it. just baffling to me.

 

[Relayer]

First, people need to realize that some words have 'coded' meanings like uppity, boy etc. I've never viewed arrogant that way but apparently some do.
Second, people need to stop throwing around the term racist so much. There are all degrees of prejudice and imo racist should be reserved for the more extreme.
Third, having said that I think it is extremely naive to think that there is not a significant amount of dislike of BO stemming from his race.

I'd like to see a list of all the "code words" so we'd all know what they are. But there is no such list, because now we have to tip toe around when we talk because there are words that 'some apparently' view as racist. Who gets to make that call? My guess is... any liberal, when it's convenient, especially when Obama is being discussed. That way anything derogatory can apparently be judged to be a revealing "code word".

I agree that there is some degree of dislike of BO stemming from his race. I'm curious how you can be so certain that it is a significant amount? And can you please quantify 'significant'?

That aside, it is a very convenient excuse for the liberal side to throw this 'prejudice' charge out there when people voice opposition to Obama's policies.

 

[Bodhisattva]

In the circle of people I with whom I interact that are libertarians or right wingers, I have never heard anyone speak (coded or otherwise) in any way about Obama that could be considered racist. Obama's policies are disliked on the merits.

Regarding the circle of people with whom I interact that are left wingers, many have said things about Palin (who I don't care for on the merits) that can only be considered the worst of misogynistic language. But, then again, they from the Northeast and consider themselves enlightened, so it's ok.

 

[RammerJammer14]

First, people need to realize that some words have 'coded' meanings like uppity, boy etc. I've never viewed arrogant that way but apparently some do.
Second, people need to stop throwing around the term racist so much. There are all degrees of prejudice and imo racist should be reserved for the more extreme.
Third, having said that I think it is extremely naive to think that there is not a significant amount of dislike of BO stemming from his race.

This uppity negro went and hit us over the head with shovel o debt! I'd sure appreciate it if ya'll could find it in your hearts to....teach that Boy some humility, and some economics.




I think that a significant number of Obama supporters like to pretend that most of the criticism for his policies stems from (imaginary) racism. I have yet to hear anyone, anywhere bring up race as an issue except people trying to imagine some other reason (except policy) that people dislike Obama. Oh wait, we are all just hiding it deep down.

I can just as easily (and wrongly) assume that because the majority of black people didn't vote for Bush that all of those black people are therefore racists. :rolleye2:

 

[Bama1970]

I'd like to see a list of all the "code words" so we'd all know what they are. But there is no such list, because now we have to tip toe around when we talk because there are words that 'some apparently' view as racist. Who gets to make that call? My guess is... any liberal, when it's convenient, especially when Obama is being discussed. That way anything derogatory can apparently be judged to be a revealing "code word".

I agree that there is some degree of dislike of BO stemming from his race. I'm curious how you can be so certain that it is a significant amount? And can you please quantify 'significant'?

That aside, it is a very convenient excuse for the liberal side to throw this 'prejudice' charge out there when people voice opposition to Obama's policies.

This

 

[BamaJeff]

These days a white person is a racist no matter what he/she says.

 

[Bama1970]

These days a white person is a racist no matter what he/she says.

Especially if the white person is a straight male from the south.

 

[Bodhisattva]

Third, having said that I think it is extremely naive to think that there is not a significant amount of dislike of BO stemming from his race.

How can I be racist regarding a light-skinned black man with no Negro dialect (unless he wants one)?

($1 royalty fee to Harry Reid)

 

[Bamaro]

I'd like to see a list of all the "code words" so we'd all know what they are. But there is no such list, because now we have to tip toe around when we talk because there are words that 'some apparently' view as racist. Who gets to make that call? My guess is... any liberal, when it's convenient, especially when Obama is being discussed. That way anything derogatory can apparently be judged to be a revealing "code word".

So are you saying words like boy or uppity dont take on a special meaning when used in conjunction when talking about blacks? :conf2:

 

[swoop10]

I'd like to see a list of all the "code words" so we'd all know what they are. But there is no such list, because now we have to tip toe around when we talk because there are words that 'some apparently' view as racist. Who gets to make that call? My guess is... any liberal, when it's convenient, especially when Obama is being discussed. That way anything derogatory can apparently be judged to be a revealing "code word".

I agree that there is some degree of dislike of BO stemming from his race. I'm curious how you can be so certain that it is a significant amount? And can you please quantify 'significant'?

That aside, it is a very convenient excuse for the liberal side to throw this 'prejudice' charge out there when people voice opposition to Obama's policies.

Exactly, the left gets to decide what is code and what is racist. They can call Obama the N word and it not be racist(see Jesse Jackson). They can say "for a hour I forgot he was black" and that not be racist. They can say "he's light-skinned without a negro dilect" and that not be racist. But let someone from the right call him arrogant and that's racist. I even heard a lefty say the term "hockey mom" was code word racist, because blacks don't play hockey.

 

[swoop10]

So are you saying words like boy or uppity dont take on a special meaning when used in conjunction when talking about blacks? :conf2:

Who's using those words besides you? You have tried to play the race card way too many times when it hasn't applied. You might want to think about the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" before you do it anymore because it's getting rediculous.

 

[Bamaro]

Who's using those words besides you? You have tried to play the race card way too many times when it hasn't applied. You might want to think about the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" before you do it anymore because it's getting rediculous.

Again you miss the point or try to redirect it. I didn't say anybody was using those words in this case. I was just trying to show by example that some words do have special meanings relating to race. Please try to keep up.

 

[swoop10]

Again you miss the point or try to redirect it. I didn't say anybody was using those words in this case. I was just trying to show by example that some words do have special meanings relating to race. Please try to keep up.

You please try to stay on subject. If nobody is using that language then your point is useless. The point you are trying to make is the same as the Longhorn fans who want to talk about the CG being different if CM had not gotten hurt. The point is, he did get hurt and nobody is using the language you are talking about.

 

[Relayer]

So are you saying words like boy or uppity dont take on a special meaning when used in conjunction when talking about blacks? :conf2:

Seriously, this is what you inferred from my post? Really?

No, what I said was show me the list of such "code words" so we will all know what they all are. Can't be done, unfortunately, as the list is never ending since ever more words will be continually added to the list because 'someone apparently perceived' them as "code".

Again, it's just another way to stifle dissent when one can't win the argument. Or is just too lazy to try. The left loves it and see it as a built-in, can't lose tactic.

 

[gmart74]

the story of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"

obviously a racist story :biggrin::biggrin:

 

[swoop10]

obviously a racist story :biggrin::biggrin:

LOL........but only if he is a right winger.:biggrin2:

 

[cuda.1973]

First, people need to realize that some words have 'coded' meanings like uppity, boy etc.

Ok, so the 2 times this week that I referred to someone as "uppity" is because I am a racist, right? Even though they were honkies.

I knew I was a racist! Thank you for clarifying that.

 

[cuda.1973]

i am actually surprised at how little people think of his race when they talk about why they dislike him.

After the Address the other night, Chris Matthews said that for one hour he forgot O'Bama was black. But we think he is a radical left-wing loon, harming the country, never bringing up he has a suntan all year around. But we are the racists.

Chris Matthews gets tingles up his leg over him. Yet he can remind us O'Bama is black. Like it matters.

3 years to go..............

 

[Bama1970]

After the Address the other night, Chris Matthews said that for one hour he forgot O'Bama was black. But we think he is a radical left-wing loon, harming the country, never bringing up he has a suntan all year around. But we are the racists.

Chris Matthews gets tingles up his leg over him. Yet he can remind us O'Bama is black. Like it matters.

3 years to go..............

What would have happened if Rush would have said this?