I am pretty certain I'm not the only person who has seen this or feels this way but every time we run outside we do well! When a team puts 8 or more in the box and you get outside of containment you're likely to go for no less than 8-10 yards and as we saw last night...sometime 85! Why McElwain continued to attempt to run straight ahead was beyond me! We also didn't STRETCH the field nearly enough by throwing deep. We never gave their DB's a reason to REALLY worry about over the top and thus that contributed to our up the gut running woes. However, again just had a badly called game plan, but as has been said...a win is a win is a win!
Bama running game fixes!
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don't forget the Qb run play by the elusive GMac. Ingram always gains yards in the wildcat too. Offensive play calling has been poor lately.
The coaches could just run every OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE play from the Florida game and we'll win 31-3 
We haven't loss only one SEC game in 2 1/2 season because the coaches can't come up with an offensive game plan. Ole Miss dictated what was called pretty much, same as our defense did to them.
When Bama's offense is winning the trenches, we can impose our will. Run successfully and throw with more time and confidence. We've whipped 8 in the box, because all it takes is a hole between the guard and tackle, we can impose our will and throw when we want to throw, not any more or less than desired.
The war is won and lost in the trenches.
We haven't loss only one SEC game in 2 1/2 season because the coaches can't come up with an offensive game plan. Ole Miss dictated what was called pretty much, same as our defense did to them.
When Bama's offense is winning the trenches, we can impose our will. Run successfully and throw with more time and confidence. We've whipped 8 in the box, because all it takes is a hole between the guard and tackle, we can impose our will and throw when we want to throw, not any more or less than desired.
The war is won and lost in the trenches.
Ingram seemed like he was hardly in the game last night. I was scrathing my head on that one. The only thing I could come up with is that maybe he's hurt?
Ingram hasn't looked like himself since the 1st half of the Florida game. Thank god TR had a huge play in scoring that TD screen pass, that was sweet. Our running game hasn't looked that great in the past few weeks. Hopefully we can make some adjustments this week in practice.
Ingram hasn't had a lot of touches to evaluate. He looks like he has the same bounce and explosiveness to me. Keep priming the gun, it will fire.
That's what i was thinking. Our running game has really gone down the crapper the last 2 or 3 weeks for some reason. It seems to me that the OL is just not opening the holes it did earlier in the year. I hope we can get this corrected soon, we've got a tough road ahead of us.
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I don't think you can usually blame the running back if the play is a bust, unless he doesn't hit the hole. Usually it's on the OL. The running back needs space to make it happen. Our guys haven't gotten any the last couple of games. That's a combination of the OL not opening up holes and other teams stacking the box. Even when teams don't stack the box though, we still haven't been busting them like we were last year. Curious as Warmack and Fluker are both excellent run blockers.
How about the first drive of the second half? Ingram takes the ball for 9 yards and then we run a QB draw with GMac on 2nd and 1?!?!
Sorry but that's absurd. You're goal as an offense is to keep the ball moving downfield and the way to do that is to get a fresh set of downs. GMac going for a QB draw is not a "potential big play." It's a play designed to get a couple of yards. Just like a draw to Ingram up the middle is designed to get a couple of yards, not necessarily a homerun.
So we do the QB draw which gets us no yards forcing us to run Ingram on 3rd and 1, only this time, Ole Miss knows its coming. Ingram trips as he's trying to get to the corner and fails to pick up the first down.
QB draw on 2nd and 1 when your offense is struggling is an AWFUL way to start off the second half.
And we've completely gone away from the Pistol formation, why? It's what's gotten us almost all of our big running plays this year. How many times did we see it last night? 3? 4?
Our we trying to fool other teams on defense by making them think we're schizophrenic on offense? I just don't get it. We're not fun to watch on offense and that's a sad statement considering we've got some of the best weapons that have ever stepped foot on campus.
At least our D showed up last night, they looked much improved. I know a lot of people were complaing about giving up 3rd downs, but you can't stop the other team on every 3rd down, it's just not possible. Ole Miss was 8-19 on 3rd down conversions last night. That's not a bad % for us considering how bad we looked over the last few weeks.
Sorry but that's absurd. You're goal as an offense is to keep the ball moving downfield and the way to do that is to get a fresh set of downs. GMac going for a QB draw is not a "potential big play." It's a play designed to get a couple of yards. Just like a draw to Ingram up the middle is designed to get a couple of yards, not necessarily a homerun.
So we do the QB draw which gets us no yards forcing us to run Ingram on 3rd and 1, only this time, Ole Miss knows its coming. Ingram trips as he's trying to get to the corner and fails to pick up the first down.
QB draw on 2nd and 1 when your offense is struggling is an AWFUL way to start off the second half.
And we've completely gone away from the Pistol formation, why? It's what's gotten us almost all of our big running plays this year. How many times did we see it last night? 3? 4?
Our we trying to fool other teams on defense by making them think we're schizophrenic on offense? I just don't get it. We're not fun to watch on offense and that's a sad statement considering we've got some of the best weapons that have ever stepped foot on campus.
At least our D showed up last night, they looked much improved. I know a lot of people were complaing about giving up 3rd downs, but you can't stop the other team on every 3rd down, it's just not possible. Ole Miss was 8-19 on 3rd down conversions last night. That's not a bad % for us considering how bad we looked over the last few weeks.
1. Saban's not in charge of the running game.I am always amazed at the number of people on this forum that are smarter than Saban.
2. This is a message board, where we vent our frustrations. If you want to hide your head in the sand and act like we have no problems on offense, be my guest, but it will be at your own peril.
1. Saban is responsible for everything on the team, including the running game. I know he will address the issue appropriately.
2. This is a forum. I do get tired of some of the comments from people that prove they have never played football.
3. I don’t hide my head to the problem. I have questioned at times why the team is struggling. Again, I just get tired of some of the posts I see.
I agree with you about the befuddling play calling, but I have to ask, what's going to happen to him if he does go ostrich on the issue?
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I'd love to hear a logical reason why a QB draw on 2nd and 1 is a better call than a simple RB draw to Ingram or Richardson
They're not running that play in hopes of getting a TD. It's a short yardage play. If you know you're only trying to pick up a short amount of yards, why are you running a QB draw? Especially in light of the fact that we're trying to get our running game going and since GMac has been pretty banged up lately.
I really see no logical reason whatsoever to call a QB draw in that situation. And when calls like that are made and you continue to fail to pick up yards, you lose confidence and everything starts to snowball.
It looked like it was drawn up for GMac to carry it from the get-go. GMac held on to the ball despite the two Ole Miss defenders staring him down. If it was a zone read and he failed to hand the ball off then the blame falls squarely on his shoulders. But either way, it was an odd call. If he had the option to hand off to Mark and he didn't, it still doesn't make sense to me to try and pick up 1 yard by letting your RB run 10-15 yards east and west. It's just a yard, they weren't going for a TD or a big chunk of yardage. It was obvious they were just trying to pick up a first down and doing so with that play is kinda bizarre.
just my opine but when we see as many as 9 in the box on 2nd and 1 it really seems like time for play action and a shot down the field would help both the running and passing games In rewatching it a bit more carefully this morning, couldn't help but be amazed how many times we try to run between the tackles when the frame shows 9 and at least one time, 10 defenders within 4 yds of the line and 2 yds of the tackles.
And we're back to what's been said by dozens of posters over a half dozen threads in the last 24 hours. You help the ground game out by throwing some deep patterns: streak routes, skinny posts, deep posts, all of them. You have to get keep the safeties honest by pushing the ball down field. The offensive staff knows it.
We could've had the same conversation last year at this time, and 2009 worked out ok.
Ah, the running game. my thoughts are that MI is not 100 %, He has few YAC yards the last few games and 1 person brings him down way to often these days. When in the wildcat, he waits for blocking, but doesn't get the holes, or doesn't have the burst right now to get through them like last year. Also, I have mentioned this as well on other threads, We do not run the pistol at all.I don't know why we a have gone away from it, but it was always a productive formation for us.
If Chance Warmack stays healthy and reduces has mental errors, he will be one of the best Guards we have had in a long time.
Anyone think Mark might be back for one more year because of his lower production this year and uncertainty over the NFL CBA?
If Chance Warmack stays healthy and reduces has mental errors, he will be one of the best Guards we have had in a long time.
Anyone think Mark might be back for one more year because of his lower production this year and uncertainty over the NFL CBA?
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