Each team has valid reason for him to join. Seems like Bama has more reason for football and USCe has more reason for him personally. If this is a business decision, which mean people see it that way, Bama will win out but who knows
As expected, Clowney picks USCe
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If a player is under 18, does he have to have a parent/guardian signature on his letter of intent? If this is the case, it makes sense to let JC wait until his birthday (18th?) so he can sign as an adult. In this case it is a plus for Alabama as JC's mother might want him to go to USCe and he would require her signature. Of course, I could be way, way off base, too.
I disagree. The pressure he will feel those two weeks after NSD will be staggering.
And thanks to everyone for the info on Coach Carroll. I wasn't sure where that info was originating.
Some Bobby Carroll info for you guys:
Little history, South Pointe is a new school. Stephen Gilmore's senior year was the first Senior class to graduate from South Pointe. Bobby Carroll wanted Gilmore at Clemson or anywhere but South Carolina. Ellis Johnson won that battle and got Gilmore at USC. So the summer comes and Clowney/Carroll travel to Bama and then he gives that interview raving about Bama and just really going over the top about his time there in the summer. It made a lot of Gamecock fans mad so people began to poke and prod about BC and his relationship with USC. It was then understood that Carroll has an issue with Spurrier because Spurrier does not kiss his butt. So then Clowney's recruitment is of course a hot topic and BC continues with his public admeration of all things Bama. During HC In-Home visits, he attended when Saban came, however, when Spurrier came - Bobby was meeting with FSU coaches to help arrange an OV for Clowney. He was meeting with Clemson behind closed doors to see how they could get Clowney up there. Of course this got out and people started to get even more mad. South Pointe is located in Rock Hill, a very pro-Gamecock town. Eventually Carroll was publicly questioned on this and he said something to the affect that "USC fans can't be mad, I have sent 3 kids to USC", which is true, but Charles Holmes never qualified and Gerald Dixon is a Gamecock legacy. We had to scratch and crawl to get Gilmore. Anyhow, he has taken the York County job because he graduated HS there, they just built a brand new campus, his son is the QB there, and they are paying him a boat load of money. For a while I think Carroll knew he was taking the York job and his going away present to USC was going to be not sending Clowney there. USC has done its best to overcome Carroll who has been pretty much known throughout this whole process to be pushing Clowney elsewhere but now that Carroll is not at the school, his influence should be a little less and thats also why I think you have seen him tone down the public interviews. I'm not so sure Carroll would have many friends in Rock Hill if he decided to stay at South Pointe with the way he has been so involved in the Clowney's recruitment and pushing him away from USC. I hope this gives you guys a better understanding of the issue USC fans have with BC. I believe that no HS coach should push a kid in any certain direction towards any school. He should make sure the kid is going to qualify and be there to help advise the family if neccessary. Bobby has taken it a few steps past that.
Little history, South Pointe is a new school. Stephen Gilmore's senior year was the first Senior class to graduate from South Pointe. Bobby Carroll wanted Gilmore at Clemson or anywhere but South Carolina. Ellis Johnson won that battle and got Gilmore at USC. So the summer comes and Clowney/Carroll travel to Bama and then he gives that interview raving about Bama and just really going over the top about his time there in the summer. It made a lot of Gamecock fans mad so people began to poke and prod about BC and his relationship with USC. It was then understood that Carroll has an issue with Spurrier because Spurrier does not kiss his butt. So then Clowney's recruitment is of course a hot topic and BC continues with his public admeration of all things Bama. During HC In-Home visits, he attended when Saban came, however, when Spurrier came - Bobby was meeting with FSU coaches to help arrange an OV for Clowney. He was meeting with Clemson behind closed doors to see how they could get Clowney up there. Of course this got out and people started to get even more mad. South Pointe is located in Rock Hill, a very pro-Gamecock town. Eventually Carroll was publicly questioned on this and he said something to the affect that "USC fans can't be mad, I have sent 3 kids to USC", which is true, but Charles Holmes never qualified and Gerald Dixon is a Gamecock legacy. We had to scratch and crawl to get Gilmore. Anyhow, he has taken the York County job because he graduated HS there, they just built a brand new campus, his son is the QB there, and they are paying him a boat load of money. For a while I think Carroll knew he was taking the York job and his going away present to USC was going to be not sending Clowney there. USC has done its best to overcome Carroll who has been pretty much known throughout this whole process to be pushing Clowney elsewhere but now that Carroll is not at the school, his influence should be a little less and thats also why I think you have seen him tone down the public interviews. I'm not so sure Carroll would have many friends in Rock Hill if he decided to stay at South Pointe with the way he has been so involved in the Clowney's recruitment and pushing him away from USC. I hope this gives you guys a better understanding of the issue USC fans have with BC. I believe that no HS coach should push a kid in any certain direction towards any school. He should make sure the kid is going to qualify and be there to help advise the family if neccessary. Bobby has taken it a few steps past that.
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Sounds more like a '.... homer trying to paint Carroll in as bad a light as possible...
you can interpret anything I said in any way you want. I however do not think I provided a "sour-grapes" attitude in my post about Carroll. Besides my opinion which I casually threw in that post, the rest is fact.
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You're a homer in the same respect that we are all UA homers here. Thanks for your post and I hope you continue to contribute in the future.
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Pardon me if I'm hesitant to believe a Gamecock fan when he says that Carroll "has an issue with Spurrier because he doesn't kiss his butt" because Carroll likes Alabama better. That's not to mention all the other so-called "facts" in your little diatribe.
you are right, he is a homer. And he will fight for his gamecocks on this and any board. that doesn't mean he isn't open to other opinions. I have had a discussion via PM , and he is pretty fair and open minded. And by the way, he knows Rock Hill pretty well.
I would like to think HS coaches aren't on the take or have an axe to grind and have their players best interests at heart and would offer sage advice if asked. I know this isn't often the case, sadly.
With that said, my sage-like advice is that Clowney needs come to Bama.
I would like to think HS coaches aren't on the take or have an axe to grind and have their players best interests at heart and would offer sage advice if asked. I know this isn't often the case, sadly.
With that said, my sage-like advice is that Clowney needs come to Bama.
How generous and humble of you!
I read an interesting question on the Carolina board. JC turns 18 on Feb 14th. If he signs on NSD, does a parent or legal guardian have to sign as well. I would think yeah. Does this have any bearing on his school of choice? that said, I still think he is a Carolina lean
Re: Clowney's Coach "USC is still out front"
Not even remotely comparable situations IMHO. Our program and recruiting are on an entirely different level than they were at that time.
Not even remotely comparable situations IMHO. Our program and recruiting are on an entirely different level than they were at that time.
If he comes across as a homer you do not want to go near their boards then. He is by far one of their more realistic posters they have. All his info is pretty legit and I am glad to see him over here.
Glad to see you over here and hope you stay around. Our board just like yours becomes very interesting this time a year. Especially with rival fans around.
This is great context from the other side of the recruiting equation. Thanks for sharing it.
ETG that's good info on Carroll. I believe most of that to be accurate. Although I believe their is probably more to his dislike for USCe than "Spurrier won't kiss his butt" because I can assure Nick Saban doesn't kiss anyone's butt.
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