Who has the better secondary?

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

I think we have the better secondary but a lot of the media think that LSU's secondary basically on the play of Mathieu. I just don't see it. If anything it is a wash.

 

[SimplyTide]

Safeties are a part of the secondary. With safeties included, Bama is better.

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

Safeties are a part of the secondary. With safeties included, Bama is better.

But they don't add the safeties for some reason. LSU's safeties are not nearly as good as Barron and Lester.

 

[Special K]

I think Bama's is better overall (ever so slightly), but don't discount Claiborne for LSU. He is a heckuva player and more consistent than Mathieu in my opinion.

 

[BamaDMD]

Safeties are a part of the secondary. With safeties included, Bama is better.

I said the same thing in another thread. Safeties are part of the secondary IMO and we've got two of the best. Also include the depth at cornerback and like our situation over LSU (and they have world class DB's)

 

[SimplyTide]

I just quickly checked a number of sources on the web (I know - it is the web - but still). Every single source defines a defensive secondary as including both cornerbacks and safeties. If they want to only compare cornerbacks (nickelbacks are considered cornerbacks), then LSU would win. But given the amout of zone defense that Bama plays, and the way that Bama uses our safeties, they are clearly part of our secondary no matter how it is defined. As such, Bama wins.

 

[CenLA Tiger]

Claiborne is projected as the 1st CB taken in next years draft in many polls. Dre gets the nod in a other polls.

http://newnfldraft.com/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...mock-draft-full-1st-round-predictions/page/13

http://footballsfuture.com/2012/nflmockdraft.html

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2012/2012-nfl-mock-draft.cfm?writer=48

These have Dre going one spot before Claiborne http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2012/2012-nfl-mock-draft.cfm?writer=13&page=3

http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/mock-draft/2012

 

[TIDEnGA]

I don't know who is better, but it seems like Dre gets beat at least once every game. Sometimes he takes risks that don't pay off. That's my worry come Sat. One play could make the difference, and no one can be out of position.

 

[UncleDad]

I would always consider safeties in the equation and it leads me to reluctantly conclude it is a draw. The biggest mistake I see on this forum is that too many folks have allowed Mathieu's on and off field actions to take their eyes off of giving the rest of the LSU backfield a reasonable look. I understand that. I just don't want to see you guys underestimate something like this when you have had such a good handle on the rest of the matchups.

 

[south78]

Bama secondary is better and I dont think its debatable. Lester, Barron, Milliner and Dre are all serious NFL talent and play well together. Matheiu is undersized and while Claiborne is great...everyone in the Bama backfield is elite. LSU gave up 500+ yards to WVU for a reason. Is WVU's offense potent? Yes but so is Arkansas'.

 

[SimplyTide]

I would always consider safeties in the equation and it leads me to reluctantly conclude it is a draw. The biggest mistake I see on this forum is that too many folks have allowed Mathieu's on and off field actions to take their eyes off of giving the rest of the LSU backfield a reasonable look. I understand that. I just don't want to see you guys underestimate something like this when you have had such a good handle on the rest of the matchups.

LSU has two players in their secondary who will likely play on Sundays. Alabama has four. And you "reluctantly conclude it is a draw"? LOL - it is them colored glasses again, me thinks.

:cheers2:

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

Bama secondary is better and I dont think its debatable. Lester, Barron, Milliner and Dre are all serious NFL talent and play well together. Matheiu is undersized and while Claiborne is great...everyone in the Bama backfield is elite. LSU gave up 500+ yards to WVU for a reason. Is WVU's offense potent? Yes but so is Arkansas'.

And WVU offense to me can't hold a candle to Arky. Just my opinion. As for the Oregon debate, I have watched them lose to two SEC teams. I don't think they are built to play with the big boys. They are high powered, no doubt. But they also had to revamp their Oline. Bama to me has played better overall teams. It beat a Florida team with their starting and second string qb. Bama has beaten a better qb than anyone on LSU's schedule in Tyler Wilson. Against Tennessee we gained more yards and gave up less. Way less! But let the best team win.

 

[UncleDad]

Bama secondary is better and I dont think its debatable...Yes but so is Arkansas'.

AR has no running game and that makes them one dimensional. No debate. Just an honest difference of opinion. Bama has a great secondary, I just believe LSU is a little better and that you have let your love of Bama color you ability to take an honest look at the opposition. I hope Saban and company are better prepared.

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

AR has no running game and that makes them one dimensional. No debate. Just an honest difference of opinion. Bama has a great secondary, I just believe LSU is a little better and that you have let your love of Bama color you ability to take an honest look at the opposition. I hope Saban and company are better prepared.

We've got an All-American Safety you forgot about, and Coach Saban doesn't give two flips what anybody on this message board thinks.

 

[colbysullivan]

AR has no running game and that makes them one dimensional. No debate. Just an honest difference of opinion. Bama has a great secondary, I just believe LSU is a little better and that you have let your love of Bama color you ability to take an honest look at the opposition. I hope Saban and company are better prepared.

WVU has no running game and that makes them one dimensional. See what I did there?

 

[UAFNATC]

I just believe LSU is a little better and that you have let your love of Bama color you ability to take an honest look at the opposition. I hope Saban and company are better prepared.

you can keep on sayin it but you wear those same glasses.

 

[SimplyTide]

I hope Saban and company are better prepared.

Do you really? :wink:

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

WVU has no running game and that makes them one dimensional. See what I did there?

He's got a point there !

 

[UncleDad]

Do you really? :wink:

Yeah, I really do. Wouldn't you want to beat an LSU team prepared to their best? We're no different. I've eaten my share of crow over the years and if I have to I will again but I am always willing to serve someup when the outcome warrants.

 

[SimplyTide]

Yeah, I really do. Wouldn't you want to beat an LSU team prepared to their best? We're no different. I've eaten my share of crow over the years and if I have to I will again but I am always willing to serve someup when the outcome warrants.

To be honest, I take my wins any way that I can get them as long as Alabama is playing within the rules. Some fans say things like, "I want to play them at their best". Me - I want Bama to win. If I found out that Les spent the entire week on a drunken binge and it cost LSU the game, I wouldn't be any less excited about our victory.