I see the TideFans prosecutors know what happened. Too bad you guys weren't working for the state of Florida.
The Trayvon Martin Case
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You still don't understand what evidence actually is. TM's only injuries being gunshot & scraped up knuckles vs. GZs injuries = evidence. It just doesn't fit into your bologna sandwich so you ignore it.
Lack of a high res timestamped video of the event is not the same thing as "no evidence"
Incidentally, Det. Serino's testimony was that Zimmerman expressed relief upon hearing that the event had been recorded.
Jury hears tapes of Zimmerman’s first accounts to investigators of confrontation with Martin
GAME OVER.
Well, you seem to be ignoring the medical evidence - TM's only wounds were on his knuckles and the GSW, GM's only wounds were his broken nose and the gashes on the back of his head...
if you can't figure it out from there then honestly, you should probably just sit this one out.
You still provide no info about the seconds that led up to their encounter. Gunshots, knuckles - thats all AFTER. Just admit it that NO ONE other than GZ really knows.
I believe TM hung up or was cut off on his cell prior to him coming face to face with GZ. Neighbors are only aware AFTER they came face to face.
After what? Until the altercation became physical, nothing else matters. All the evidence supports Zimmerman's claim of being attacked - all of it. Yet you continue to beat this drum of 'nobody knows' - the evidence tells us quite a lot.
I don't know if you really followed the evidence or not, but the prosecution's own witness heard the "Why are you following me" - "What are you doing here," followed by the fight. Of course she then maintained that GZ hit Martin (with really no evidence) and was made to look like a fool when the injuries showed no evidence of impact to Martin at all, his knuckles were bruised and the only significant injuries were to Zimmerman. Look, I've about had it with this thread. We have some posters saying over and over that there was no evidence, when there was and it satisfied the jury. If we can't do better than this, I'm going to close the thread or just start removing every post spitting into the wind and claiming there was no evidence when plenty of evidence was admitted and accepted as true by the jury...
I get what you are saying, still though it is more that is unresolved. We don't know what happened leading up to it because the person who was suppose to give his account is dead, so we only get half of the story. I believe with what the prosecution put out that GZ was not guilty, not innocent.
Not once did he claim to have identified himself. Shouldn't he as neighborhood watch have a moral obligation to at least identify himself instead of what are you doing around here? Or what about I'm armed? He had his chance to do all this but neglected to do so. Now he may have gotten jumped and TM may have deserved it, but this evidence really don't show anything to me, although it is evidence, that he got beat down that's all. Why? We really don't know. I'm done. On to Crimson Tide Football.
It's pretty amazing watching you jump from hoop to hoop to find some way to incriminate GZ. You have jumped into the there is no evidence and all we have is GZ's words. Well all of the evidence supports GZ's words so that leads us to believe his words are true. If the state's version were true then wouldn't they have something in the way of evidence? You want evidence, well how about you providing something to support your version of this. Then you ask why he didn't know the name of the street, as if that matters. I don't get how anyone could even question what happened here. All of the evidence is on GZ's side and none on TM's. Some of the defense's best witness were called by the state.
Sorry, but it was all recorded over GZ's cell phone connection to 911, right up to the first impact, so there's simply not any mass of evidence that we don't know about and we do know exactly why GZ was beaten down. The last thing he said ("What are you doing here?") is recorded and is in evidence. As I said way above, I've asked that same question, with a rational response and I've been asked that question and given a rational response. I don't know in what world a question like that is an invitation to a beating, from a normal, unimpaired person, and I don't want to know. We do really know, for those who have eyes to see, And, yes, you should be done...
I hope it doesn't come to this. I've enjoyed reading this thread (minus a lot of the past few pages of sparring).
I hope not, but we have some brown stuff getting knee-deep around here and rising. I'm an attorney and I followed the evidence, even went back and read the relevant parts of the transcript, when I didn't have the time to do it. Accordingly, this chorus of "there is no evidence," which I take to be a political statement, as opposed to a position based on what the evidence actually admitted proved. (Some of the evidence not admitted would have been even more damning to the prosecution's case, but it was deemed not needed, and the defense was correct.) As an attorney, it's maddening to me to hear people who apparently are not really familiar with the evidence and haven't made the effort to become so, to keep insisting that the sky is blue, when it's raining like hell outside...
Since it sounds like I will not be allowed to clear up my claim I will just bow out and leave the 'discussion' to the rest of you. I didn't hear the entire trial. I was just asking questions.
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How many posts do you have in this thread? Well that is exactly how many chances you have had to clear up your claim but you have spent your time jumping from one hoop to another in an attempt to.....well I don't know what you are attempting to prove. Either way you didn't make any better a case than the prosecution did so you've that going for you.
True and legally immaterial. I think you should bow out. You've stated that over and over...
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