Question: Defensive strategy vs Missouri same as Iron Bowl 2nd half?

[fralo4tide]

Kind of upset that there has been little mention of the complete story of Bama's defense versus Sucker Punch Meerkat University. Maybe it's out there but I haven't seen it. All anyone talks about is that we gave up 44 pts and 600+yards with little to nothing being said that most of that was first half. Personnel adjustments made a world of difference in the second half. Since Missouri has been dubbed "Auburn lite" do you think we will see the same defensive strategy against them as that in the Iron Bowl, in particular using Evans and Williams for quickness on the end positions?

 

[CrimsonForce]

Almost all those yards and points came at the hands of two monster receivers who will be first round picks in the NFL draft. Missouri doesn't have that kind of personnel at receiver. Missouri is going to get rolled..

 

[JustNeedMe81]

Their receiver, Sasser leads the team with 65 receptions for 904 yards. Hunt is next with 34 for 529 yards... Then they have White 25 for 318 yards.
They like to spread the balls around, but here's the issue: They have three receivers that's averaging 11 or more yards per catch. I think the defense wil probably employ
same tactics we've been using all year long.. Bend, but don't break. I don't know if I want us to rush Mauk.. he's capable of breaking loose and run. He has 95 attempts for 336 yards.
But then again, Evans and WIlliams are real fast getting to the QB, so that could be worth it.. but I don't see us doing that until later in the game when Missouri is little tired.
They are very good with their defense, but The reason I'm not sold on them is because if you look at their schedule.. They haven't really faced a physical team except for Arkansas and you
can tell that Missouri got tired at the end from physical standpoint... and then turn around having to face Alabama... I do expect
Slyve to get playing time this weekend, and Look for Eddie Jackson and Tony Brown to play as well.

Kind of upset that there has been little mention of the complete story of Bama's defense versus Sucker Punch Meerkat University. Maybe it's out there but I haven't seen it. All anyone talks about is that we gave up 44 pts and 600+yards with little to nothing being said that most of that was first half. Personnel adjustments made a world of difference in the second half. Since Missouri has been dubbed "Auburn lite" do you think we will see the same defensive strategy against them as that in the Iron Bowl, in particular using Evans and Williams for quickness on the end positions?

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

Were it not for those 3 turnovers, it would have been an even uglier loss for AUby than it was. I don't believe that Mizzou is AUby lite. We made one maybe two adjustments and that's really it and it was over. That game wasn't as close as everyone says it was.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

I agree. Gus even knew that, that's why He wanted the TDs instead of field goals.. he knew it was going to get out of hand... Sims Ints were on third downs... one was his fault... One was Receivers not finishing his route... One was just bad throw, bad play calling.... with good defense on Auburn. I definitely agree without those ints... I think it wold've been 34-10 at half time. But, we wold've had auburn rallying back in second half, and in the end, it'll be 50-31 something.. so you're right.

Were it not for those 3 turnovers, it would have been an even uglier loss for AUby than it was. I don't believe that Mizzou is AUby lite. We made one maybe two adjustments and that's really it and it was over. That game wasn't as close as everyone says it was.

 

[fundytide]

I'm not sure what defensive strategy Bama will employ against Mizzou. I expect that we'll try to take away the run and force Mauk to beat us by throwing it.

As for the strategy Bama used in the second half against API... it seemed to me that our tactics had to change throughout the game to try to implement the strategy of keeping API from running the ball effectively. I think that game was a classic 'chess match' between two great offenses and one very good defense. I could be wrong but it seemed to me that on defense, we came out determined not to let API run the ball outside effectively. The Barn was determined to establish the running game so they took what our defense gave them (Marhsall running it up the gut). When we brough the safeties up to shore up run support, API decided to take some shots deep (and successfully). But once they got into the red zone and couldn't stretch our defense, they couldn't find success anywhere.

Offensively, we wanted to play ball control and when API put a bunch in the box to take away the run and Sims' short and medium throws in the flat, we threw deep to Cooper (successfully). When they backed off their safeties to take that away, we were able to run the ball very effectively and the game was over.

I don't think we will see the same thing against Mizzou simply because they don't stress and can't stretch our defense the same way that API did and they have a much better defense than API. I think both Bama and Mizzou are going to try to play more conventional/safe football on offense to minimize turnovers and take advantage of field position.

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

I agree. Gus even knew that, that's why He wanted the TDs instead of field goals.. he knew it was going to get out of hand... Sims Ints were on third downs... one was his fault... One was Receivers not finishing his route... One was just bad throw, bad play calling.... with good defense on Auburn. I definitely agree without those ints... I think it wold've been 34-10 at half time. But, we wold've had auburn rallying back in second half, and in the end, it'll be 50-31 something.. so you're right.

I believe it could have been worse than that.

I am not agreeing however, that Mizzou is AUby lite. Their offense is nowhere near as dynamic, only having 119 against Florida? I would give more examples, but I'll go with just that.

 

[Bama Lee]

Pressure up the middle and containment outside for our front seven. We will run a lot of nickel against their 3 wide out sets. We seem to have gotten away from cover two and cover three this year. I kept wondering where the safety help was during the Auburn game, but we were apparently running a ton of man coverages with the safeties closer to the line for run support.

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

Pressure up the middle and containment outside for our front seven. We will run a lot of nickel against their 3 wide out sets. We seem to have gotten away from cover two and cover three this year. I kept wondering where the safety help was during the Auburn game, but we were apparently running a ton of man coverages with the safeties closer to the line for run support.

I thought that too. I think the deep passes weren't expected. I think the secondary is looking for redemption. Look for MO to try Eddie Jackson early.

 

[tidefanbeezer]

I don't know if I want us to rush Mauk.. he's capable of breaking loose and run. He has 95 attempts for 336 yards.
But then again, Evans and WIlliams are real fast getting to the QB, so that could be worth it.. but I don't see us doing that until later in the game when Missouri is little tired.

I disagree. While Mauck does have the ability to run (although his 3.5/carry is not impressive), he's also shown that he makes poor decisions when throwing the ball. We need to pressure him and force him into poor decisions and turnovers.

 

[Con]

I don't know if any of you noticed, but right at the end of the game when Auburn was on the goal line, Cyrus Jones had a great jam on Duke Williams. He just stoned him and I don't think ol' Duke was expected such a strong jam from Cyrus. He has really improved over the last year.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

That is true. I was saying that given the issues we've had when rushing the QBs... and our defense creates a running lane for QBs to run through and That's why I'm not sure if i wanted to do that because if Mauk sees that, he's going to take off and get 4 or 5 yards... maybe more. Now, we have improved a lot on that.. Dan Prescott and Nick Marshall... but still Nick was able to do that one or two times.... But... Maybe you guys are right, we can blitz this time because we're stronger and faster....

I disagree. While Mauck does have the ability to run (although his 3.5/carry is not impressive), he's also shown that he makes poor decisions when throwing the ball. We need to pressure him and force him into poor decisions and turnovers.

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

I don't know if any of you noticed, but right at the end of the game when Auburn was on the goal line, Cyrus Jones had a great jam on Duke Williams. He just stoned him and I don't think ol' Duke was expected such a strong jam from Cyrus. He has really improved over the last year.

Oh I noticed. That is really the only time I remember Cyrus the whole game. Which is fantastic.

 

[russtang]

I haven't watched much of Mizzou but I think they will throw more short and intermediate passes than Aub instead of chunking it deep all the time.

 

[westide]

I think Bama will try to the take away their running game. Unless Coates and Williams can sneak into a Mizzou uniform, I don't think Mauk is going to beat us through the air.

 

[81usaf92]

I think Bama will try to the take away their running game. Unless Coates and Williams can sneak into a Mizzou uniform, I don't think Mauk is going to beat us through the air.

There is a big misconception about mauk. He is a good qb if he has time to throw, but he is a turnover prone qb if you pressure him. So if we give him time then expect him to equal Clint tricketts numbers, but if we pressure him expect him to have a performance like Kenny hill

 

[rolltide_21]

I don't think so. I see us going with our base D going to a nickel package often. I don't think Mizzou has the speed (and size) on the perimeter that AU has nor the playmakers in the running game to necessitate those type of personnel adjustments.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

I need to go back and watch what Arkansas did and what they didn't do... and then I'll come back and comment... Another thing is will we see lot of corner blitizes from jackson, Jones, brown? I suspect that could help a lot.. Do we want Mauk to scramble a lot throw bad ones.. I need to look at Weight of OL and DL...

 

[dvldog]

I need to go back and watch what Arkansas did and what they didn't do... and then I'll come back and comment... Another thing is will we see lot of corner blitizes from jackson, Jones, brown? I suspect that could help a lot.. Do we want Mauk to scramble a lot throw bad ones.. I need to look at Weight of OL and DL...

Other than the IB, there was at least one other game I remember where it appeared we blitzed and got burnt but then stopped blitzing yet somehow got pressue w/the front four and shut down the other O. It would seem that on most all obvious passing downs we would put that spl d line pkg in to rush the passer and let the DBs cover. No one open and little time for the QB to do anything but throw it away, run, or get sacked.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

That's what i was thinking, but wasn't sure. That's why I was litlte confused by other posters saying we need to blitz when I knew we could potentially get burned if we did something like that on passing downs... This is not a good risk on our behalf... We just need to be physical up front and push them around.. make the pocket break down, take away what he needs to do to make reads.... I think we blitz later in the game...

Other than the IB, there was at least one other game I remember where it appeared we blitzed and got burnt but then stopped blitzing yet somehow got pressue w/the front four and shut down the other O. It would seem that on most all obvious passing downs we would put that spl d line pkg in to rush the passer and let the DBs cover. No one open and little time for the QB to do anything but throw it away, run, or get sacked.