If I had 6 kids, I would want to work more, not less. Not sure that I would ever come home.
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Before we start throwing coals on the wife keep this in mind. I know people with six kids (and more) who make a lot less than Daboll and his wife that have nannies to help the wife. It's not like they live paycheck to paycheck.
I've got 5 kids, both of us work and make (literally) a fraction of what Daboll and his wife bring in. So yeah, we're crazy as bats.
I never really liked Little Debbie's Oatmeal Cream Pies, BUT I just love Little Debbie's Raisin Creme Pies. Would love to have some with a cup of coffee as I read this thread. Maybe we should change this thread title to Little Debbie's Creme Pies.
Oh, by the way, I cannot even find Little Debbie's RAISIN Creme Pies anymore. I haven't seen a grocery store that stocks them anymore. Walmart used to stock them, but Coach Saban must have PROCESSED them too, because they no longer have them!
Maybe the former OC didn't like Coach Saban's Little Debbie's Oatmeal Creme Pies! Or if he stole some of Coach Saban's supply of these pies, then he was told to go closer to the North Pole!
I haven't read every post in this thread and so I haven't seen anyone say the above but it would be absolutely ludicrous to say so.
The man's entire livelihood is based on his offense scoring points and winning games. To think that he would jeopardize his current and future position just to try and force the head coaches hand is more than a stretch.
He may not have adapted well to Jalen because he couldn't physically do it (didn't honestly know HOW to use him) but I would never buy the theory that he was trying to tank his own offense (because the whole offense starts with the QB) so that he could get the actual QB he likes in the game. You try to win with what you got, you don't hamstring the most crucial position on the field to try and prove a point. That's how you lose games and your job.
I do think Daboll could have used Jalen better. OTOH I also think opposing teams had a LOT of tape on Jalen and made it a point to clamp down on his strengths. How often have we seen a new dynamic player burst onto the scene and nobody knows how to stop them - until year 2. A whole lot of tape and a lot of time to prepare. Happened with Dak and Zeke this year with the Cowboys. That's not meant to absolve Daboll, but it's certainly a factor. He could probably have done more with Jalen, but regardless Tua is the better QB overall and we won a championship and Daboll is gone so the point is somewhat moot.
The more interesting convo, IMHO, is what Locksley's involvement does to the QB competition. It was almost a 100% guarantee in my mind that if Daboll were staying then Tua would be the starter, I think it's still the most likely outcome but we don't know what Locksley is all about or how these QB's will settle into his system - though it shouldn't be terribly unfamiliar as he was already Co-OC. Interesting times. All I'll say is there's no good reason why this offense shouldn't steamroll just about everybody in their way this upcoming season.
Well, as with all OC's under Saban. They aren't going to bring in their own playbook. Kiffin has been the only OC under Saban (at Bama) who I feel had the freedom to bring in some of his own "stuff". Outside of that, the incoming OC basically was given Saban's playbook and told to learn it, run it and make adjustments as you see fit within an understood set of boundaries. Like I said in an earlier post in this thread. After seeing the offense that was on the field in the second half of the NCG. If Saban allows a major shift to a RPO offense (and away from what we saw). I will be very concerned. But I've been very concerned before and soon afterward was ordering NC gear online. So there ya go.
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I think this could be the easiest question to answer. If Coach Locksley's group that he was coaching last year was the one that was the most frustrated with the way the offense was going last year, it would seem to me that he would be clearly in favor of pushing for Tua to be the signal caller. It is all about spreading the ball around to involve everyone in the offense and Tua can definitely do that.
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You know, I wonder if the frustration was as bad and as open as some have said it progress to. Did Jalen start noticing it and what impact did it have on him? Because if you're a true teammate (which I believe he is just that) you hate being the weak link. You hate being in the locker room, on the practice field, on the bus etc. knowing a lot or most of your teammates think you're holding the team back. The pressure can mount fast.
I remember more times than I'd like to admit in my playing days (baseball), where I would simply just hit a funk, both in the field and at the plate. If it were only a game or two no one really cared. But if you were a starter and you began striking out in key situations, making mistakes in the field, and it continued for more than a handful of games. The grumblings and whispers started. That was THE WORST feeling in the world. The pressure to get out of it before you lose the respect of your teammates is a heavy burden to tote. But it does push you to get better.
Maybe the best thing to get Hurts' confidence level up would be for him to come off the bench in blowouts to really be out there with no pressure. It didn't hurt Tua this year. It had to be hard on Hurts and his family with all of this stuff being talked about during the year.
It was probably an emotional and mental shock to him to be honest (and fair). Just think, it was less than a year ago he was the true freshman phenom LEADING Bama to within one play of a NC. He gets showered with praise, spoken of and to like royalty. Being talked about as the next D Watson. He goes from that to being blamed for the ineptitude of the offense, not only by fans and outside critics. But obviously by some of his own teammates. Forget whether the claims were actually true or not. Can you imagine the emotional and mental stress that had on him? I'm sure it was like driving at a 100 mph, top down, letting your hair blow in the air soaking it up. Then all of a sudden hitting a concrete wall. How he has handled it is incredible.
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I definitely have been there. For me, It's not hitting the key shots in the critical moments for me. I was supposed to be one of the best shooter on the team, and somehow some what, I missed the basket at the wrong moment... and players were telling coach to bench me for one of the freshmen.... hurt my confidence that year. That's why I have defended Jalen so many times and have said pressure from fans and players didn't help Jalen.
Classic case of great leadership. I'm really proud of Jalen for hanging in there.
One thing I will say about the Hurts situation, it did feel like the pressure got to him. It is hard to overlook that the worst game of the year for him came on the biggest stage. I don't know where Daboll lies in all of that, but if the guy calling the plays doesn't want you to be running the offense, and the guys catching the balls don't want you to be the one throwing it to them, that has to be a tremendous weight.
For me it was never about who the better quarterback was, I simply had faith Alabama could win with Hurts. But, I watched that crumble and even I had to concede something had to change at halftime. On the other hand, it doesn't seem like Daboll or some of those other guys really cared who was more prone to making mistakes, or what ever, they just wanted the more talented passer on the field. I just find it hard to figure out where the line lies really in terms of what should have happened and what actually happened. Hurts could have done better, but I doubt he was the only one.
Having said all of that, what's done is done. Tua got a chance to prove himself and while I think we all saw why rushing him out there earlier might not have worked, things should only get easier for him. But, with 3 years of eligibility left I find it hard to imagine Hurts is done as a QB. If I'm speaking not as an Alabama fan, but with more objectivity, the best thing for him if he wants to be a pocket passer is find a low pressure environment where he can sit for a year (learning) and then go out there and play. He really couldn't find a tougher position, with a backup like Tua, and the amount of pressure he had on his shoulders. He's younger than Tua, there is nothing at all to say that he can't progress and fix some issues over the next three seasons.
For me it was never about who the better quarterback was, I simply had faith Alabama could win with Hurts. But, I watched that crumble and even I had to concede something had to change at halftime. On the other hand, it doesn't seem like Daboll or some of those other guys really cared who was more prone to making mistakes, or what ever, they just wanted the more talented passer on the field. I just find it hard to figure out where the line lies really in terms of what should have happened and what actually happened. Hurts could have done better, but I doubt he was the only one.
Having said all of that, what's done is done. Tua got a chance to prove himself and while I think we all saw why rushing him out there earlier might not have worked, things should only get easier for him. But, with 3 years of eligibility left I find it hard to imagine Hurts is done as a QB. If I'm speaking not as an Alabama fan, but with more objectivity, the best thing for him if he wants to be a pocket passer is find a low pressure environment where he can sit for a year (learning) and then go out there and play. He really couldn't find a tougher position, with a backup like Tua, and the amount of pressure he had on his shoulders. He's younger than Tua, there is nothing at all to say that he can't progress and fix some issues over the next three seasons.
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I would not be surprised to see Jalen improve significantly next year for a few reasons.
1. The pressure is off. He can go out there and play. He doesn't have to worry about making too many mistakes and losing the game. He knows what the other QB is capable of. He doesn't have the weight of the team, win or lose, solely on his shoulders.
2. I think Locksley will do everything he can to develop Jalen and to build a set of plays that best fit his abilities. He has a strong background in RPO and I think he understands how to use Jalen better than Daboll did.
3. I think Jalen can learn a lot from Tua. They both seem to be very grounded and team players. No big egos to get in the way. I think Jalen can now be more comfortable in going to Tua and saying help me with this, or show me how you do that. He was probably hesitant to do that before when he was on top of the depth chart. Likewise, I think Tua would be happy to provide some coaching on his own. But just being able to watch Tua and study what he does, running the same plays and making the same reads, will help Jalen progress.
My hope is that they both progress and continue to improve so that if one is struggling, the other can come in and make a difference, just as Tua did in the NCCG. There will be times when Tua will not be on top of his game and Jalen can help out. There may also be games where the skill set that Jalen brings to the offense is what we need. I think we're blessed to have two very talented QBs who both seem to be mature enough to do what is needed to help the team.
1. The pressure is off. He can go out there and play. He doesn't have to worry about making too many mistakes and losing the game. He knows what the other QB is capable of. He doesn't have the weight of the team, win or lose, solely on his shoulders.
2. I think Locksley will do everything he can to develop Jalen and to build a set of plays that best fit his abilities. He has a strong background in RPO and I think he understands how to use Jalen better than Daboll did.
3. I think Jalen can learn a lot from Tua. They both seem to be very grounded and team players. No big egos to get in the way. I think Jalen can now be more comfortable in going to Tua and saying help me with this, or show me how you do that. He was probably hesitant to do that before when he was on top of the depth chart. Likewise, I think Tua would be happy to provide some coaching on his own. But just being able to watch Tua and study what he does, running the same plays and making the same reads, will help Jalen progress.
My hope is that they both progress and continue to improve so that if one is struggling, the other can come in and make a difference, just as Tua did in the NCCG. There will be times when Tua will not be on top of his game and Jalen can help out. There may also be games where the skill set that Jalen brings to the offense is what we need. I think we're blessed to have two very talented QBs who both seem to be mature enough to do what is needed to help the team.
I told my wife the same. He seemed more relaxed and appeared to be enjoying himself as much as I've ever seen him.
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