Why was McClellan fumble not targeting

[AlistarWills]

The player dropped his head and dove into the back of Jase’s arm with the crown of his helmet. I thought that was one of the things listed as a description for targeting.

 

[colbysullivan]

The player dropped his head and dove into the back of Jase’s arm with the crown of his helmet. I thought that was one of the things listed as a description for targeting.

That will never get called. He hit the ball.

 

[Tidewater]

The player dropped his head and dove into the back of Jase’s arm with the crown of his helmet. I thought that was one of the things listed as a description for targeting.

I do not think that was targeting. If you duck your head and ram the opposing player's head with the crown of your helmet, that will get called targeting

 

[gman4tide]

I do not think that was targeting. If you duck your head and ram the opposing player's head with the crown of your helmet, that will get called targeting

Welllllllll…if a bama player THINKS about doing that it will get called targeting. That was just a great football play.

 

[Krymsonman]

It was just another fluke in a night of fluke's as Jase is usually pretty good with holding on to the ball. That guy just got his head, from behind, in exactly the right spot. I'm just glad we got out with the W.

 

[bamacon]

Better question was why the whistle wasn’t blown after forward progress had long been stopped. The Aggie just played until he heard a whistle and made a great play on the ball.

 

[day-day]

Better question was why the whistle wasn’t blown after forward progress had long been stopped. The Aggie just played until he heard a whistle and made a great play on the ball.

Forward progress had not been stopped. A&M player had McLellan's foot but McLellan was still fighting forward and was falling forward at the very least. If he had not lost the football, he would have gained almost a yard just by falling forward. (This occurred at 7:18 in the 3rd quarter if anyone has a chance to review.)

 

[crimsonaudio]

I do not think that was targeting. If you duck your head and ram the opposing player's head with the crown of your helmet, that will get called targeting

One aspect of targeting by the NCAA:
"Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet"

Where you hit the player isn't part of the definition, hence the clempson player being ejected for targeting the OSU QB a couple of years ago by leading with the crown while hitting him in the lower back / obliques.

But, for clarification, he aimed at the ball. I don't see that as targeting under any aspect of the rule.

Then again, I'm 'wrong' about targeting about half the time, so TIFWIW...

 

[Tidewater]

One aspect of targeting by the NCAA:
"Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet"

Where you hit the player isn't part of the definition, hence the clempson player being ejected for targeting the OSU QB a couple of years ago by leading with the crown while hitting him in the lower back / obliques.

But, for clarification, he aimed at the ball. I don't see that as targeting under any aspect of the rule.

Then again, I'm 'wrong' about targeting about half the time, so TIFWIW...

Me too.
I just thought that putting your helmet on the football was one of those things they teach.

 

[Con]

Me too.
I just thought that putting your helmet on the football was one of those things they teach.

The guy made a good play. It just shows how quick these guys make decisions because of what they are coached to do. When you sit back and watch games you really have to know that all these teams do get coached and they all have good players.

 

[colbysullivan]

One aspect of targeting by the NCAA:
"Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet"

Where you hit the player isn't part of the definition, hence the clempson player being ejected for targeting the OSU QB a couple of years ago by leading with the crown while hitting him in the lower back / obliques.

But, for clarification, he aimed at the ball. I don't see that as targeting under any aspect of the rule.

Then again, I'm 'wrong' about targeting about half the time, so TIFWIW...

Don’t sweat it. The refs are wrong about targeting just as much, if not more so.

 

[gtgilbert]

One aspect of targeting by the NCAA:
"Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet"

Where you hit the player isn't part of the definition, hence the clempson player being ejected for targeting the OSU QB a couple of years ago by leading with the crown while hitting him in the lower back / obliques.

But, for clarification, he aimed at the ball. I don't see that as targeting under any aspect of the rule.

Then again, I'm 'wrong' about targeting about half the time, so TIFWIW...

You're right. There are really two completely different types of targeting.

One is like you stated, making contact with the crown of the helmet. Doesn't matter where you hit the opponent, but if you duck your head and hit with the crown, it's a penalty. This is just as much to protect the hitter as the player getting hit.

The other is forcible contact to the head or neck of the opponent. That contact can be made with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow.

by the first definition, it was close as the DL was starting to duck his head, but the contact was made with the facemask, not the crown, and he also hit the ball, and not JM. Had he not made contact with the ball, I think they likely would have reviewed that to see if it had been targeting, but then not called it since the contact was with the facemask.

 

[bamamc1]

The guy who was flagged for roughing the passer for 8&4 should have been suspended for 2 games. That was complete crap.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Well if you are Tom Brady it is apparently roughing the passer just tackling her.

 

[rolltide_21]

I thought it was spearing and said so in the moment to my wife. But, that never gets called either. It’s gone by the wayside along with clipping.

 

[CraigD]

One aspect of targeting by the NCAA:
"Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet"

Where you hit the player isn't part of the definition, hence the clempson player being ejected for targeting the OSU QB a couple of years ago by leading with the crown while hitting him in the lower back / obliques.

But, for clarification, he aimed at the ball. I don't see that as targeting under any aspect of the rule.

Then again, I'm 'wrong' about targeting about half the time, so TIFWIW...

Is the ball part of the player?

 

[crimsonaudio]

Is the ball part of the player?

Can't be, or every time a defender 'punched' a ball out it would be a personal foul.

 

[Tideflyer]

It was just another fluke in a night of fluke's as Jase is usually pretty good with holding on to the ball. That guy just got his head, from behind, in exactly the right spot. I'm just glad we got out with the W.

" I`m just glad we got out with the W". On that night that was all that mattered in the end IMO.

 

[The Ols]

I thought it was speering and said so in the moment to my wife. But, that never gets called either. It’s gone by the wayside along with clipping.

I believe that they removed "spearing" as a penalty years ago...It's unnecessary roughness now.

 

[rolltide_21]

I believe that they removed "spearing" as a penalty years ago...It's unnecessary roughness now.

Either way, still 15 yards and the same penalty although the terminology has changed.