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Or Odom? It's going to take a lot of good persuasion to keep some players in the off-season. Five stars want the ball and this season a lot of good talent has been starved of touches
It’s not just Law. Milroe doesn’t distribute the ball. Jam Miller is good enough to be a top 5 RB in college football, and he is constantly getting the shaft. Caleb Odom should be targeted nearly every play in the red zone.
There certainly are times you need to lean on the QB to do exceptional things. Tua in the second half against Georgia in the championship game comes to mind. Heck, even Vanderbilt this year. I get the idea sometimes you have to turn to your QB and go do something special, you can't always just say we're going to control this game on the ground, or we're going to take the QB out of the equation.
But... I think you and I agree on parts of the problem but not necessarily on who to blame. I think Milroe is basically a symptom. You said earlier Bryce willed Alabama to victory in some games, but I see it as a chicken and the egg type situation. Did Alabama need Bryce's heroics because they were the only way to win, or because once they became overly reliant on QB play it became the only way to win?
The end result of where we are now though is something that basically an issue we can agree on. My mentality though is that the coaches should have been making him hand the ball off more, forcing his hand more and then if he refuses he deserves to sit. If they aren't doing that though, if they have not presented him with such an ultimatum then ultimately it becomes their failure as well.
Bryce had a horrible Oline and a bad defense. I think Gibbs is a great runner but let’s also accept he is a transfer. Meaning we missed somewhere on running backs in recruiting.
Milroe has a far more complete offense than Bryce 2 years running and we are still stuck in neutral. We have a far deeper stable of running backs and receivers and the Oline has consistently been said to be some of our strongest aspects. However, who is our top running back? Jalen Milroe. That tells a world of difference between Bryce and Milroe and that’s why no one respects our offense.
Milroe is definitely a symptom. The incompetent coaching staff isn’t the root cause though. NIL is the root cause.
Indiana would have beaten Vandy and OU. Just sayin.
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Did anyone notice that after pick 6, Jalen milroe doesn’t even attempt to tackle the OU player.
He tried to- and failed - to trip him.
He tried to- and failed - to trip him.
Is K-Law really a disappointment or has he not been given enough touches due to QB inability and/or game plan?
And yeah, if I were him I’d look into transferring if the QB issue isn’t addressed.
Thats my biggest fear, is that Ryan williams, jam and justice, kendrick law transfer out in the offseason. we had a two headed monster at running back and we ran it with a QB that went backwards most of the game. SAD.
I mean, you can’t expect him to sacrifice his body for his team can you? He has an NFL future to think about.
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I am perplexed by a coach who doesn't possess the will or foresight to prepare a backup QB. I completely disagree with the if - then statements on here that say that Ty Simpson hasn't played so therefore he is not a capable QB and that the team will require a QB from the portal.
From my perspective it is a very bad (unethical) practice to recruit players who have a demonstrated a commitment to the program and not return that commitment as a program.
I do believe that DeBoer is not prepared as a coach in the SEC any more than Brian Kelly is. It is likely too soon to say more than that but one fact is clear he is no CNS by a long shot.
All of them have incentive to stay. Ty will need to lean on their experience, and they will get a ton of touches.
While I agree with your assessment, in terms of “domination” does it really matter if it is on one side of the ball or the other? They chewed us up on the ground. They ate up clock. They puts us behind the sticks offensively. They dictated the game. Period. Yep the defense rose up enough to keep them out of the end zone except twice. It is what OU offensively the rest of the game.
After that Milroe pick 6 putting OU up 24-3, it was over. It didn’t matter if defense kept them out of the end zone. OU at that point, had showed by running the ball, they would stay in 2nd and medium or 3rd and short, and converting. And we continued to play two deep safeties and never loaded the box to attempt to stop the ground game. You’re correct the defense bent but didn’t break. But it did bend enough that OU controlled the game. When a game is essentially “over” by the middle of the third quarter, you have been whipped..dominated… whatever you want to call it. It doesn’t matter at that point if one side or ball is more responsible than the other.
To be fair, Saban rarely gave the backup alot of touches either...........and I never understood that
I don’t know, I hope you are right. CKD was never known as a run heavy coach. well until this year when he inherited a running QB.
No player should have that kind of influence or control
I believe a big part of a dominant running game is just attitude. You talk about oline play and the running backs during Bryce's time at Alabama and I agree with you in terms of the result. I belabored what Oklahoma did for a reason though. They were 105th in rushing coming into the game. The running back that just ran all over Alabama had 85 career yards and was a 3 star recruit. I don't think they had an exceptional offensive-line or an exceptional running backs. What they did have though was an attitude and a dedication to stuffing the ball down Alabama's throat.
Again, not saying this is the ideal offense but it should be the first building block in my opinion. If you're not trying to be mean and nasty you might be missing out on some crucial aspects important to success. As good as Bryce was, it still wasn't good enough for a championship.
We both agree that it's an issue we don't have a dominant running game that uses, you know, actual running backs. I just don't understand why the coaches, the play callers, the people that are supposed to be in charge haven't done that.
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