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[BigAlinKnoxville]

I just hope we finally win our 6th Straight IB to match their streak from ‘02-‘07.

During that time I worked in Customer Service and the last 3 years of that streak I had (unprovoked) multiple people shove fingers in my face on a Mon - Friday following the IB to taunt and gloat.

I’ve been waiting a LONG time for this payback.

We were absolutely crippled by probation during those years and on my end I did my best to be a good sport about it.

What will be their excuse for losing 6 straight other than their own self inflicted behind the scenes incompetence?

I can’t stand them and take supreme pleasure in their suffering.

Hang in there. I got to "enjoy" the Vols' 7-year streak over us right after moving to Knoxville. Now that we've put a 15-year streak on them, they don't seem quite as enthusiastic about bringing it up.

 

[BamaHoopsBoi]

Well darn, I was hoping they'd sign him to a life extension at the end of the year.

 

[CrimsonCleanse]

And really and truly, I don't think even Iron Bowl wins buy their coaches that much mileage. Bowden was let go just a few weeks into the 1998 season, after having beaten us less than a year earlier in the previous season.. Tubbs was their papa after rattling off 6 against us, only to be run out of town by the torches and pitchforks the day after 36-0. Malzahn was fired after we thumped them 42-13 (that's when the decision was made. They announced it after they finished the season. That was the weird COVID year where we both had like 2-3 regular season games left after the IB). But...how quickly they forgot that Gus had beaten us just one year prior. And now another of their coaches comes and goes without an IB win. Heck they didn't even let the last two stay long enough just to SEE if they could fluke their way into one

 

[colbysullivan]

Given this...I'm afraid if Bama doesn't shut them out...its going to look like a 'bad' win for Bama...

Doesn’t matter

 

[Cruloc]

 

[selmaborntidefan]

And really and truly, I don't think even Iron Bowl wins buy their coaches that much mileage. Bowden was let go just a few weeks into the 1998 season, after having beaten us less than a year earlier in the previous season.. Tubbs was their papa after rattling off 6 against us, only to be run out of town by the torches and pitchforks the day after 36-0. Malzahn was fired after we thumped them 42-13 (that's when the decision was made. They announced it after they finished the season. That was the weird COVID year where we both had like 2-3 regular season games left after the IB). But...how quickly they forgot that Gus had beaten us just one year prior. And now another of their coaches comes and goes without an IB win. Heck they didn't even let the last two stay long enough just to SEE if they could fluke their way into one

ESPN:
"Coaches have been fired for failing to win this game."

Me:
"Name one."

They can't because it has never happened.

Whitworth, Price, and Shula WERE NOT FIRED "because they couldn't beat Auburn." And while this probably shocks people - Bill Curry wasn't fired at all much less because he couldn't beat Auburn. Even if we say DuBose's resignation was in lieu of getting canned, that occurred right after the UCF game and had zip to do with the Iron Bowl. He wasn't keeping his job if he won that game.

What about Auburn?
Barfield, Dye, Chizik, and Malzahn were dead men walking before the IB was even played their last year.

As you note, Terry Bowden beat us in 1997 and was gone the following fall. Tuberville did not get canned because of 36-0 in 2008, although that didn't help. Even had he won that game, Auburn is 6-6 and had had a worse record than the previous year 3 of the 4 previous campaigns.


Yes, I guess you can argue that Jack Crowe got fired because of the 1985 Iron Bowl, but he's not a head coach, and he was already in hot water anyway. Maybe Bruce Arians but even that's stretching it. We all know ESPN is IMPLYING head coaches when they say that.

 

[Special K]

I saw this morning that Roy S. Johnson is lobbying for Auburn to hire Carnell Williams. Fine by me.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I saw this morning that Roy S. Johnson is lobbying for Auburn to hire Carnell Williams. Fine by me.

Who is he?

 

[BamaMoon]

Much the same for LSU (except Saban), UT (except Lane), and Florida (except Spurrier/Meyer).

Bama has fired 3 coaches (only 2 for football reasons) in 67+ years, but gets the reputation, whereas it's actually the standard everywhere else

Curry, Shula, Price (non-football reason who never coached a down other than spring practice).

What about Ears Whitworth? Did he resign OR did Coach Bryant just kick him out of T-town?

I was thinking Mike Dubose, but someone said he resigned.

We actually won alot of games under Curry, but he couldn't win "the" game that mattered most.

Other than those years, the "3 Mikes" have to be our darkest years, which include the Tubberville, 6-finger years.

 

[thingamajimbeux]

ESPN article notes that Coleman could easily command 2 million a year on the open market...he's good, but I wonder if we need another talented receiver for that price? CKD will have to answer that question. According to a good friend who really knows football they do have several players that we would snap up in NY minute,

I've been thinking about it. Not super interested in CC if we can get some of their worthy dLine/LBs. I think we need more help next year in that department rather than WR.

But I don't make a living coaching either.

 

[Cruiser]

I saw this morning that Roy S. Johnson is lobbying for Auburn to hire Carnell Williams. Fine by me.

Predictable take by that guy

 

[Redwood Forrest]

In the words of an old Poster on Tidefans, "it brings a little old tear to my eye."
Also, I would like to hear AUDubs take on this. I know how frustrated he was with hiring a perv.

 

[Joefus]

Got bored on my commute and checked out the aufamily board. They seem to believe you can get a negotiated buyout bc freeze was golfing during the week of games. While that’s hilarious I doubt it’s enough to leverage a negotiated buyout . So either their fans are full of it (yes) or there’s some tea about to be spilt

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Curry, Shula, Price (non-football reason who never coached a down other than spring practice).

What about Ears Whitworth? Did he resign OR did Coach Bryant just kick him out of T-town?

I was thinking Mike Dubose, but someone said he resigned.

We actually won alot of games under Curry, but he couldn't win "the" game that mattered most.

Other than those years, the "3 Mikes" have to be our darkest years, which include the Tubberville, 6-finger years.

Curry wasn't fired.

Whitworth was canned in 1957 and died in 1960.

DuBose quit, but he was going to be fired, so take that one for what it's worth.

 

[BamaMoon]

Curry wasn't fired.

Whitworth was canned in 1957 and died in 1960.

DuBose quit, but he was going to be fired, so take that one for what it's worth.

So Ears and Shula are the only two coaches ever fired at Bama... almost 50 years apart at that!!!

 

[BamaMoon]

In the words of an old Poster on Tidefans, "it brings a little old tear to my eye."
Also, I would like to hear AUDubs take on this. I know how frustrated he was with hiring a perv.

Nah, he burned his TideFans bridge!

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Nah, he burned his TideFans bridge!

burned the bridge, buried the ashes, and salted the earth.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

So Ears and Shula are the only two coaches ever fired at Bama... almost 50 years apart at that!!!

Ears and Shula were the only two fired for PERFORMANCE. Technically, so was Red Drew, who just stepped aside (under pressure) but remained a university P.E. teacher and the track team coach. DuBose resigned but would have been canned anyway - and given what dropped on our doorstep on his way out of town (the Albert Means scandal), he should have been.

Price's firing was for what in the old days would have been called moral turpitude.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Ears and Shula were the only two fired for PERFORMANCE. Technically, so was Red Drew, who just stepped aside (under pressure) but remained a university P.E. teacher and the track team coach. DuBose resigned but would have been canned anyway - and given what dropped on our doorstep on his way out of town (the Albert Means scandal), he should have been.

Price's firing was for what in the old days would have been called moral turpitude.

Price getting fired was destiny.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

And really and truly, I don't think even Iron Bowl wins buy their coaches that much mileage. Bowden was let go just a few weeks into the 1998 season, after having beaten us less than a year earlier in the previous season.. Tubbs was their papa after rattling off 6 against us, only to be run out of town by the torches and pitchforks the day after 36-0. Malzahn was fired after we thumped them 42-13 (that's when the decision was made. They announced it after they finished the season. That was the weird COVID year where we both had like 2-3 regular season games left after the IB). But...how quickly they forgot that Gus had beaten us just one year prior. And now another of their coaches comes and goes without an IB win. Heck they didn't even let the last two stay long enough just to SEE if they could fluke their way into one

They were all world bad in 1998. I think they finished 3-8. So much so that tubs 5-6 first season in 1999 was seen as an improvement.

But yeah I don’t think it affords their coaches what used to. I think 2017 changed everything. Signing an extension after the iron bowl. Gus ran his RB into the ground. Which may have cost them the sec title the next week. Lost the bowl game. And auburn fans watched bama win the national title against Georgia (their second biggest rival) who was reaching new heights themselves. He then wasted two great defenses in 2018 and 2019. He also had some bad losses. 2018 against Tennessee and 2020 against South Carolina comes to mind.

I also think expanded the playoff has changed the game also. I never want to lose to auburn but bama beats lsu, Oklahoma, and eastern Illinois. They are probably in the playoff no matter what happens in the iron bowl. 10-2 isn’t the death sentence it used to be. So now the whole ruining bama’s season with an upset isn’t even a guarantee anymore.