UA/KU post game analysis...
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re: team quitting
I think this team has played harder in conference play than they have all year.
Some need to realize when you have a bad team you have a bad team, but they haven't quit. They have been in almost every single game.
I think this team has played harder in conference play than they have all year.
Some need to realize when you have a bad team you have a bad team, but they haven't quit. They have been in almost every single game.
That's what really sticks in my craw -- there's no reason for this to be a BAD team, even without Ron Steele.
They are both bad and they are badly-coached. If you can't take that opinion without name-calling, I'd suggest you get off the board right now...
I agree completely.
I've watched teams with less talent than Alabama has right now (without Steele AND Hendrix) beat teams with far more talent than Kentucky had today. The difference between those teams and Alabama's team this year is that those teams played hard from Day 1, Minute 1, Second 1, until they heard the final buzzer for the last game of the season. Those teams played as a team and executed a well-thought-out gameplan that played to their strengths and tried to take away the opponent's strengths. However, that all starts with a coach who is willing to put forth effort in every facet of his duties and who is unwilling to endure losing.
People constantly point to Steele's absence. IIRC, Steele would be a senior this year. Do Roy Williams, Mike Kryzezewski, or even John Calipari routinely wait four years between efforts to recruit a point guard who can run the show at an acceptable level? I think not. Steele's absence should be a major inconvenience, not a death blow for the team. I've been told over and over that next year's freshmen will put us over the top...IF Hendrix comes back. Suppose Hendrix does come back...what then? Will Gottfried wait another couple of years to recruit a talented class? If 2008-09 is a success, will 2009-11 be the basketball version of abject poverty?
I see bad coaching, I see bad recruiting, and I see a coach who is completely self-absorbed.
Chances are that if Steele had stayed healthy, he wouldn't have been a senior this year - he would have been in the NBA making $$.
Ah, not much to analyze, I suppose. Bottom line, we just aren't very good. We played pretty hard, so no one can we are quitting, but at the end of the day we just aren't very good.
It all goes back to the basics, and our complete inability to do any of them.
We cannot shoot the ball well from the floor, we cannot draw fouls, and we cannot shoot free throws even when we do get to the line. Throw in poor ball movement and the lack of a truly dominant inside player that may open things up outside, and you have a team that really struggles to score points offensively.
On the other end of the floor, we absolutely cannot defend the three, we struggle to rotate defensively, and we constantly blow assignments. We also have a tendency to give opponents too many opportunities in key situations with an inability to rebound the basketball. Add those things up, and we often struggle to do particularly well on the defensive end.
Combined, we generally cannot score many points, and we struggle to stop teams defensively. Put it together and it just turns into very bad play, I'm afraid to say. We all sit here and effectively tell the same story after every game (read loss). Hopefully things will improve, but honestly it may be in our best interest to just keep on losing. At least then we may, perhaps, bring in a good coach who can get things done. Realistically speaking, we aren't going to improve any more this year, and we are unlikely to even make the NIT. And if Gottfried returns, the odds are that we do not do a whole lot better next year, and most likely we will be having this same discussion twelve months from now.
Just not a lot of good things to say about the Alabama basketball team at the moment. In all honesty, about the only two good things we have seen all year is a blowout win at home over an equally terrible Auburn squad, and a few electrifying dunks. Positives outside of those two things are scant and few.
It all goes back to the basics, and our complete inability to do any of them.
We cannot shoot the ball well from the floor, we cannot draw fouls, and we cannot shoot free throws even when we do get to the line. Throw in poor ball movement and the lack of a truly dominant inside player that may open things up outside, and you have a team that really struggles to score points offensively.
On the other end of the floor, we absolutely cannot defend the three, we struggle to rotate defensively, and we constantly blow assignments. We also have a tendency to give opponents too many opportunities in key situations with an inability to rebound the basketball. Add those things up, and we often struggle to do particularly well on the defensive end.
Combined, we generally cannot score many points, and we struggle to stop teams defensively. Put it together and it just turns into very bad play, I'm afraid to say. We all sit here and effectively tell the same story after every game (read loss). Hopefully things will improve, but honestly it may be in our best interest to just keep on losing. At least then we may, perhaps, bring in a good coach who can get things done. Realistically speaking, we aren't going to improve any more this year, and we are unlikely to even make the NIT. And if Gottfried returns, the odds are that we do not do a whole lot better next year, and most likely we will be having this same discussion twelve months from now.
Just not a lot of good things to say about the Alabama basketball team at the moment. In all honesty, about the only two good things we have seen all year is a blowout win at home over an equally terrible Auburn squad, and a few electrifying dunks. Positives outside of those two things are scant and few.
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I was working today and didn't get a chance to listen to the game. I turned on the radio just in time to hear the final few words of CMG's post game interview and the announcer giving the final score. I see I didn't miss much.... 
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I hate seeing a team consistently play hard but always lose. Everybody from the waterboy to the players and coaches are to blame...I think it is systematic at this point.
It's just frustrating that fundamentals have apparently been thrown out the window. I've been a CMG supporter for a long time, but if the basics aren't being taught, and it's time to go in another direction. Sound defense, good shot selection, being able to break a press consistently, in bounding the ball, free throw shooting....these things have lost a lot of games for us in the last few years. If we were doing these things right, and losing because we didn't have the talent, that would be one thing. But this is completely different. To me, it comes down to a refusal to teach, or bring in someone who can teach defense.
Look at it this way, if Steele isn't himself again next year or if Hendrix goes pro, things will be bleak.. Even if they are both there, fundamentals will still hold the team back regardless of who happens to be playing.
I agree with most on here that they are playing hard. But there is a difference between just playing hard, and playing hard and smart. It's been a long time since we've tried the latter of those options.
Look at it this way, if Steele isn't himself again next year or if Hendrix goes pro, things will be bleak.. Even if they are both there, fundamentals will still hold the team back regardless of who happens to be playing.
I agree with most on here that they are playing hard. But there is a difference between just playing hard, and playing hard and smart. It's been a long time since we've tried the latter of those options.
Hollinger is playing fairly well at the point. I thought Coleman and Knox played as well as could be expected. Gee would have been better on the bench today. Where was our shooting? This must have been air ball day. We ran our "motionless" offense all day and never changed a set. What can you say?
Knox surprised me with his ability today. He's certainly no Hendrix... but if he keeps developing he can be serviceable.
That's really all I have to say about another frustrating loss.
That's really all I have to say about another frustrating loss.
Defense...a little better. Though I suspect Kentucky's low output was due to their own ineptness as much as our defense.
Shot selection....poor ...again.
FT shooting....extremely poor...again.
SEC loss...again.
One of the announcers said CMG had to address the poor FT shooting this week. Perhaps this along with other things should have been "addressed" twenty games ago.
Shot selection....poor ...again.
FT shooting....extremely poor...again.
SEC loss...again.
One of the announcers said CMG had to address the poor FT shooting this week. Perhaps this along with other things should have been "addressed" twenty games ago.
I'll agree that, in absolute terms, our offense today was "motionless," but I saw several stretches where the movement was better than it has been this year. Players on the off side of the ball were actually moving, curling, etc., for a few minutes. It didn't last, though.
Kentucky tried its hardest to gift wrap this game for Alabama the first 12 minutes of the first half - yet still went into halftime with the lead. I turned the game off then knowing the outcome.
It's real simple. It's always been this way.
Kids in Little League to Student Athletes in College ultimately adapt to and reflect the personality of their coach.
Billy Donovan teams- intense
Bobby Knight teams- intense
Bruce Pearl and Kevin Stallings teams- Go for it, up that tempo, press, fire it up, light it up..win.
Gottfried teams- Give a decent effort but be nice and accept that losing is O.k... I do.
sippi
Kids in Little League to Student Athletes in College ultimately adapt to and reflect the personality of their coach.
Billy Donovan teams- intense
Bobby Knight teams- intense
Bruce Pearl and Kevin Stallings teams- Go for it, up that tempo, press, fire it up, light it up..win.
Gottfried teams- Give a decent effort but be nice and accept that losing is O.k... I do.
sippi
Hey guys....I didn't see the game but I noticed in the Yahoo box score that there was no Hendrix.
Did he not play today or was it a misprint?
sippi
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