Coach Saban influencing Executive action on NIL limitations.

tideindc

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There may be other lawyers here with more direct experience in constitutional law than I. But I don’t believe an executive order would have any impact whatsoever on NIL. Would have to be a federal law passed by Congress and signed by the prez. Then, of course extensive litigation to follow, if one side or the other is unhappy with it. No real simple answer to this ruination of the game we loved.
 
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AlistarWills

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I think the only thing that can be done would to be some sort of "contract between Schools and Players" in place of a scholarship. It should have the same sort of stipulations as scholarship that include length of time, grades, transfer rules, etc ..... It's the only logical way to go with this situation.
And not just between the schools and players but between the schools as well. Otherwise you’ll have one school come up with a contract more favorable to the player than another and cause the players to lean that direction. The NCAA was supposed to be leveling the field and lost control.
 

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Nick is a man of principle. That is what I always loved about him. He has a world view, he knows how to articulate it and uses it to his view's advantage, old school like. I miss him in Tuscaloosa frankly. The sport has gone awry and he is certainly a common sense voice. Problem is, cat is out of the bag and there ain't no going back.
 

cdub55

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I would prefer an exec order to appt CNS to head up a small task force to solve the problem by the championship game in 2026. Exclude anyone who has had an NCAA position, exclude pointy headed academics, exclude politicians. task force would include only the P4 commissioners and a G5 appointee. You have 6 months to come up with a solution.

Tell the G5 folks to ride or die. D1 should really only be P4 going forward IMHO, but if we have to keep them around to beat up on, they're going to only get a minute voice in what CFB becomes.

Recommendations would then become bills in congress to vote on in Jan 2026. All changes would become effective July 1, 2026.

Or something like this.
I was talking to a Head Coach of a D1 FBS mid-major college a few weeks ago at dinner and he proposed that Power Conferences should have to buy out a player's contract if they wanted them as a transfer. I thought that was interesting and something I could definitely get on board with. The way we currently have it, if you are a smaller college and recruit really well or develop exceptionally, you are just asking for one of the big boys to come in and scoop up your players once the season is over. He said they can not offer money anywhere in the same stratosphere as the big boys do. As Alabama fans the portal has become a headache to most of us but I can't imagine what it must be like for a fan of a Group of 5 school.
 

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100%, while also thinking I’d 100% rather have an angry three legged hippopotamus make the decisions than I would any politician.
The issue is with the way things are currently setup, if a player has any issue whatsoever with an NCAA ruling, they simply lawyer up and the courts cut down the NCAA at the knees. Played 7 seasons already and the NCAA says no? Lawyer up...here's one more! Think we are not using money as it was intended to be used with NIL? Too bad chump, pay the kids!

To defeat a system that is taking advantage of its position through the courts system, you must change how the courts rule. Like politicians or not, this is the way.
 

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I was talking to a Head Coach of a D1 FBS mid-major college a few weeks ago at dinner and he proposed that Power Conferences should have to buy out a player's contract if they wanted them as a transfer. I thought that was interesting and something I could definitely get on board with. The way we currently have it, if you are a smaller college and recruit really well or develop exceptionally, you are just asking for one of the big boys to come in and scoop up your players once the season is over. He said they can not offer money anywhere in the same stratosphere as the big boys do. As Alabama fans the portal has become a headache to most of us but I can't imagine what it must be like for a fan of a Group of 5 school.
Unless the NIL Contracts are just for one year, they should have penalties attached for early termination by either party... :unsure:
 

cdub55

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Unless the NIL Contracts are just for one year, they should have penalties attached for early termination by either party... :unsure:
Until salary caps are a part of this pay for play scheme, parity is impossible. Want to cherry pick the little guys (who are basically your minor league), you need to pay them. It all makes sense but we aren't living in a make sense world anymore.
 

NoNC4Tubs

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At the very least, there should be a NIL Contract template that should be used by everyone to at least get some commonality/uniformity to this whole mess...:cool:
 

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Isn't part of the potential settlement in the house that players have to make public their NIL deals? If that is the case, then maybe colleges need to have a threshold that if a player has over "X amount" in NIL dollars, their scholarship is reduced by a certain % percentage. I don't see any reason for a college to fully fund a scholarship for a player making $2.5 million in NIL money. That is ridiculous. Look at Ohio St. They reportedly paid $20 million to players on their rosters AND, AND provided a full ride scholarship. That championship cost them A LOT of money. Much more than $20 million.
 

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Isn't part of the potential settlement in the house that players have to make public their NIL deals? If that is the case, then maybe colleges need to have a threshold that if a player has over "X amount" in NIL dollars, their scholarship is reduced by a certain % percentage. I don't see any reason for a college to fully fund a scholarship for a player making $2.5 million in NIL money. That is ridiculous. Look at Ohio St. They reportedly paid $20 million to players on their rosters AND, AND provided a full ride scholarship. That championship cost them A LOT of money. Much more than $20 million.
If you have ever got to see the behind the scene's of a major college program you would be astonished at the resources that are poured into these athletes. I was once watching practice and sitting in meetings at Alabama as they were preparing for a bowl game and grabbed brunch with the players. There was the usual eggs, biscuits and gravy, bacon, etc layed out, but there was also huge ribeye's on the buffet style assortment. One of they players ahead of me passed by the steak and didn't get one. I asked him, "you don't like steak bro?", and he responded, "no I do, we just have them so much I get tired of it sometimes". The newer meal hall has it setup where players can pick which fish/steak/etc they want cooked as if they are at Texas Roadhouse and get it ordered to their liking. In food alone according to Forbes, these colleges are spending in the ballpark of 100k a year for each player. Now add in free housing, books, tuition, training and recovery, and more and players are getting the royal treatment. The issue at hand is not one single school would even think to institute a scholarship payment reduction based on NIL unless it was mandatory that all schools do it.
 
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If you have ever got to see the behind the scene's of a major college program you would be astonished at the resources that are poured into these athletes. I was once watching practice and sitting in meetings at Alabama as they were preparing for a bowl game and grabbed brunch with the players. There was the usual eggs, biscuits and gravy, bacon, etc layed out, but there was also huge ribeye's on the buffet style assortment. One of they players ahead of me passed by the steak and didn't get one. I asked him, "you don't like steak bro?", and he responded, "no I do, we just have them so much I get tired of it sometimes". The newer meal hall has it setup where players can pick which fish/steak/etc they want cooked as if they are at Texas Roadhouse and get it ordered to their liking. In food alone according to Forbes, these colleges are spending in the ballpark of 100k a year for each player. Now add in free housing, books, tuition, training and recovery, and more and players are getting the royal treatment. The issue at hand is not one single school would even think to institute a scholarship payment reduction based on NIL unless it was mandatory that all schools do it.
Oh, I know it's never going to happen, because nothing that deals with reality or the "real world" is ever going to be administered to these kids. They had it made under the traditional landscape where they "just" received a full ride and benefits that amounted to millions of dollars over the course of their college tenure. It's a sad state of affairs that college football is currently in.
 

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If you have ever got to see the behind the scene's of a major college program you would be astonished at the resources that are poured into these athletes. I was once watching practice and sitting in meetings at Alabama as they were preparing for a bowl game and grabbed brunch with the players. There was the usual eggs, biscuits and gravy, bacon, etc layed out, but there was also huge ribeye's on the buffet style assortment. One of they players ahead of me passed by the steak and didn't get one. I asked him, "you don't like steak bro?", and he responded, "no I do, we just have them so much I get tired of it sometimes". The newer meal hall has it setup where players can pick which fish/steak/etc they want cooked as if they are at Texas Roadhouse and get it ordered to their liking. In food alone according to Forbes, these colleges are spending in the ballpark of 100k a year for each player. Now add in free housing, books, tuition, training and recovery, and more and players are getting the royal treatment. The issue at hand is not one single school would even think to institute a scholarship payment reduction based on NIL unless it was mandatory that all schools do it.
“ books, tuition “ , what ? I thought all the academic stuff/ requirements had gone by the wayside.
 

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Oh, I know it's never going to happen, because nothing that deals with reality or the "real world" is ever going to be administered to these kids. They had it made under the traditional landscape where they "just" received a full ride and benefits that amounted to millions of dollars over the course of their college tenure. It's a sad state of affairs that college football is currently in.
You mean “ college “ football, buzzard.
 
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IF CNS is a part of something, he'll bring his best and do what is best for the college game.

He's a man of wisdom and foresight. This has to be a step in the right direction if he's willing to get involved!
I agree, but ultimately, lawyers are going to have to get involved. As of now, no one has come up with a way to instill something that indirectly limits transfers by the players and puts some form of guardrails on the pay-for-play without it violating these players' "rights".
 
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I was talking to a Head Coach of a D1 FBS mid-major college a few weeks ago at dinner and he proposed that Power Conferences should have to buy out a player's contract if they wanted them as a transfer. I thought that was interesting and something I could definitely get on board with. The way we currently have it, if you are a smaller college and recruit really well or develop exceptionally, you are just asking for one of the big boys to come in and scoop up your players once the season is over. He said they can not offer money anywhere in the same stratosphere as the big boys do. As Alabama fans the portal has become a headache to most of us but I can't imagine what it must be like for a fan of a Group of 5 school.
100% - agreed. Every contract is breakable ... with consequences. Right now there are no consequences for anyone. Thus, chaos.
 
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The sport is dying! The greed and expectations of the players is unrealistic, and the current trend is not sustainable. Something must be done to save what's left of college football. I agree politics does not need to be involved, but someone has to step up and be strong enough to stop the madness. I'm almost to the point of not watching. I missed a few games last year for the first time in years for lack of interest. Just like the NFL and NASCAR, college football is losing its appeal. I love the University and the way it used to be, but it is just not the same anymore. When the players don't care about anything but money and have the same respect for the game as I do it's hard to stay tuned in.
 

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