Do you understand we can recruit guys out of the portal AFTER the portal closes???When I say time, I mean he has a short one, like by the time the portal closes.
Do you understand we can recruit guys out of the portal AFTER the portal closes???When I say time, I mean he has a short one, like by the time the portal closes.
geez. Another whiff? (Diaz)You are correct, we were targeting him
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We had CNS and guys like Pendry, Steele, Cig, Burns, that didn’t get their info from 24/7. They were TALENT EVALUATORS!Very similar story in basketball with Derrick McKey. He, like Jacobs, was a late bloomer. Denny Crum at Louisville was really the only major school offering him. Wimp Sanderson and David Hobbs went over and watched Derrick play BASEBALL (at Shortstop). He was gobbling up every ball hit his direction. Wimp said to Hobbs “dang, if his hands are that good, and hand-eye coordination are that good, he should be pretty catching a basketball down on the post”.
To your point:. Many times it’s about that guy that has the eye for evaluation.
I’m not totally aware of how it works but, he has to have something to show by the time spring ball comes aroundDo you understand we can recruit guys out of the portal AFTER the portal closes???
I'm one of them that has said it and I will continue to say this as much I need to. We do need to be patient and just let the process play out. Alabama does not have that huge NIL budget like Texas, Ohio State and "Indiana" has. They can't just go throw out 6 million dollars at a player. They're grabbing players on Defense side with no issue, It's the OL line I'm concerned with and how they're struggling to lock them in. One guy they got him on campus but didn't offer him. Just land 2-3 OL players and I'm happy. I want the young guy to develop and I want some veteran mixed in.For all of you saying "be patient", "let the process work itself out", "back off from the ledge", etc., I have one question: Can you name one piece of evidence, one past concrete action that gives you even a modicum of confidence that this staff is going to figure this out and salvage this portal effort?
I'm willing to trust if there's good basis for doing so. I'm just not seeing it.
That's not fair assessment. Saban was good at evaluating talent, but he definitely missed a lot on some players... and he had assistants that missed too. You've heard Saban talked about that many times over the years.We had CNS and guys like Pendry, Steele, Cig, Burns, that didn’t get their info from 24/7. They were TALENT EVALUATORS!
Not true!When I say time, I mean he has a short one, like by the time the portal closes.
It was money and the fact that he seriously wanted to stay as close home as possible. He is from NC.Yea, baffles me how that one got away. I mean, that is the dude that was opening holes for our transfer Hollywood. Want to keep that tandem in tact as much as possible.
Nor can you control what they do...The powers that be are very intentional, IMO about the mess that has ensued. Us as fans have been betrayed.
It messes up recruiting and development. A kid jumping around every year has to kill their development but most of them are trying to capitalize as much as they can, while they can. If you give a kid millions of dollars with no rules, then you can’t be mad at them for how they react.
It was a response to a direct statement about recruiting suffering, which it is not…how can they be irrelevant if they’re not even on campus yet?And those recruiting classes are now irrelevant because most of that #2 class will be gone after one year if theyre not playing or getting a raise. Its the portal recruiting and retainafe thats now the most important, not HS recruiting classes.
You can't just demand a coach has to do something. I mean he is doing something. They're working it. They're doing the best they can with the budget given... But at same time.. just don't like how they're prioritizing other positions over OL/DL thats it. That's only issue.I’m not totally aware of how it works but, he has to have something to show by the time spring ball comes around
That's not fair assessment. Saban was good at evaluating talent, but he definitely missed a lot on some players... and he had assistants that missed too. You've heard Saban talked about that many times over the years.
Got it, either it’s a sign of them taking their time based off production and not hype, or we have no other choice but to fill a roster with what’s left out there.Not true!
We can sign the Portal players any time between now and whenever. The Portal closing only means that no one can enter after that date. There is NO deadline on signings...![]()
Indiana is 49th in the recruiting rankings...so does HS recruiting even matter anymore?
Serious question...players transfer, it seems FR are not as valuable as JR/SR....its still probably not proven yet (the Cignetti method) but it will be interesting to see how HS recruiting is affected.
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I’m not standing over his desk pounding it either but expectations are expectations. It’s taking some time to get used toYou can't just demand a coach has to do something. I mean he is doing something. They're working it. They're doing the best they can with the budget given... But at same time.. just don't like how they're prioritizing other positions over OL/DL thats it. That's only issue.
I think next year we'll have a better idea which one it is: Jimmies and Joes OR Xs and Os.I just hope their action with the portal/NIL is not an indication of how they’ve prepared to play games because we’ve seen multiple times how that worked out
I suspect that's what we are trying to do...but everyone is acting like they know when we are really in the dark.My point is being misconstrued.
I’m saying *IF* we can’t get 4 stars consistently (and apparently we can’t even though we have Top 10 NIL Coffers)
It’s not necessarily an either or thing.
Cold rain here in Boone, NC, which is supposed to change to snow tomorrow. A good day to watch a movie, some basketball and take a nap!I woke up this morning, and I read 4-5 pages of the same old angst on this portal mess, and I should have stay in bed a little longer. its Saturday, the weekend. 36 degrees in San Jose, a beautiful cold winter morning. I suggest some posters enjoy their weekend and let the chips fall where they may.
I'm sorry you feel that way. "Why?" what?Answer: Yes
2nd part: My Question
“Why?”
That's really all we can do, isn't it?I have said this numerous times, we better have a coaching staff that can develop the talent they bring in. We no longer will just be the most talented team in the field. I do have faith that our coaches are capable but reserve the right to change my mind next year. Have patience and trust the coaches
On my other group one guy who knows several of the On3 guys feels that Smothers is gone and they feel the staff botched it.
If so we are rapidly approaching a grad of F- on this year's portal. Ugh.
I hope they pull a rabbit out, but I feel like we just fumbled the second half kickoff and went down by 3 TDs...