AL Immigration Law: Just When You Thought It Couldn't Get Worse...

[Jessica4Bama]

If this law does go into effect, wouldn't it just displace the problem not fix it? I'm meaning that most illegals will just up and move before it goes into effect so it will just put the burden on other states. So it is only fixing the problem in Alabama?

 

[Tide1986]

If this law does go into effect, wouldn't it just displace the problem not fix it? I'm meaning that most illegals will just up and move before it goes into effect so it will just put the burden on other states. So it is only fixing the problem in Alabama?

That is the solution being foisted upon the states...each one will need to enforce the law how it sees fit. And as a citizen of Alabama, I really don't care if our law makes other states step up to the plate.

 

[gmart74]

If this law does go into effect, wouldn't it just displace the problem not fix it? I'm meaning that most illegals will just up and move before it goes into effect so it will just put the burden on other states. So it is only fixing the problem in Alabama?

don't worry, the people's republic of maryland, "the sanctuary state," will gladly take them and thank you for it.

 

[bamacon]

I'm not sayin gyou are, but there are many, many people saying we should round them up and deport them, by pretty much any means necessary. And I am not on the Left.

I know you're not BiB its just like I'm arguing with Jeb Bush on this issue. It's cool, Conservatives are thinkers and disagree on some points like illegal immigration. We didn't help them here and we don't have to help them back. I would like to know who is here though and they cannot be allowed to become parasites of the welfare system (and I know not all are but there are many). I think states are having real problems b/c of this issue and are simply trying to solve a problem the Feds simply won't. That's all.

 

[TommyMac]

So what, you advocate shooting incompetent lawmakers instead of voting them out of office?

Where do I get in line?

 

[Bama Reb]

So what, you advocate shooting incompetent lawmakers instead of voting them out of office? :wink:

Well, I saw an article this morning in which several lawmakers were saying that they couldn't live on their $174,000 salaries and that they need a raise. So I was just wondering, as I'm sure many of us are. If they are that incompetent, which do you think they deserve more? :wink:

 

[Bama Reb]

Now here's an article from New Mexico about yet another activist judge.

A New Mexico judge blocked on Wednesday a drive by the state's Republican governor to make it harder for illegal immigrants to keep driver's licenses in the state. Governor Susana Martinez's administration last month ordered the state to reverify the physical residency of foreign nationals who hold New Mexico driver's licenses in order to get or keep their licenses.

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-blocks-mexico-governor-immigrant-driver-licenses-012651915.html

How on earth are we ever going to get a handle on illegal immigration if these activist judges keep blocking us at every turn?

 

[bamacon]

Now here's an article from New Mexico about yet another activist judge.

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-blocks-mexico-governor-immigrant-driver-licenses-012651915.html

How on earth are we ever going to get a handle on illegal immigration if these activist judges keep blocking us at every turn?

Gov. Martinez sounds like an Uncle Pedro. I'm honestly about to give up. If I didn't love America so much I would.

 

[Bama Reb]

I think you have it turned around. It is Governor Martinez who ordered the address verification of NM driver licenses. It was the judge who blocked that order.
What I don't get is this. She says "irreparable injury" would occur from "constitutional deprivations to the applicants."
Uh, sorry judge, but as illegal aliens, they have no constitutional rights. You can't deprive someone of something to which they aren't entitled. What a bimbo .. uh, dumbo. Or is is it dumbo bimbo??

 

[cbi1972]

I think you have it turned around. It is Governor Martinez who ordered the address verification of NM driver licenses. It was the judge who blocked that order.
What I don't get is this. She says "irreparable injury" would occur from "constitutional deprivations to the applicants."
Uh, sorry judge, but as illegal aliens, they have no constitutional rights. You can't deprive someone of something to which they aren't entitled. What a bimbo .. uh, dumbo. Or is is it dumbo bimbo??

If the extra bureaucratic hoops would seem to have to apply to everyone, similar to sobriety checkpoints, the case could be made that it unduly inconveniences those who have done no wrong. "Irreparable injury" is a tough sell, though.

 

[Bama Reb]

If the extra bureaucratic hoops would seem to have to apply to everyone, similar to sobriety checkpoints, the case could be made that it unduly inconveniences those who have done no wrong. "Irreparable injury" is a tough sell, though.

I doubt they'd meet much resistance from it's citizens though, and those are the ones who would be inconvenienced the most. So if it's mainly the illegals who complain about being inconvenienced, who cares?

 

[crimsonaudio]

As much as I'd like to say otherwise in some cases, ALL people are protected by the US Constitution. The rights enumerated are inalienable, not granted by the government.

That said, I don't consider this a constitutional violation - driving is a privilege, not a right, so if you wish to drive, you jump through the hoops.

 

[RollTide2U]

First of all, illegal aliens do have Constitutional rights. The police can't just take them out and shoot them behind the station just because they are illegal. Secondly, a temporary restraining order is the appropriate thing to do in this situation, and it says nothing about the final outcome.

Isn't the reason police can't just take them out and shoot them behind the station because that would be illegal and the police would be guilty of murder?Citizens from other countries visit here all the time, and we can't kill them either because of OUR OWN laws against murder, etc. It doesn't mean they have rights under our Constitution.

 

[cbi1972]

As much as I'd like to say otherwise in some cases, ALL people are protected by the US Constitution. The rights enumerated are inalienable, not granted by the government.

That said, I don't consider this a constitutional violation - driving is a privilege, not a right, so if you wish to drive, you jump through the hoops.

But in an ostensibly free country, there are fewer and less onerous hoops.

I would rather have planes blown up once in a while than have a prisonlike environment in airports.

I would rather have people killed by drunk drivers than to have to deal with sobriety checkpoints that stop everyone on the road.

I do not want a national ID.

I don't know enough about the impact of address verification on quality of life to quantify that particular, but it seems like one of thousands of instances of minor encroachment that make life a little bit more of a hassle.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Everyone has some basic rights under our Constitution. Not everyone enjoys all privileges and immunities of citizenship. There are differences, though I'm not a lawyer and couldn't tell you every detail of such.

 

[rizolltizide]

I agree completely with you on that point. My concern with imposing hefty fines on those who employ illegals is that they clearly do it for a reason, either because it is cheaper or the quality of work is better. I know people in the construction business who argue both. I worry that the economic impact would be significant.

Cheap, cheap. Cheap, cheap. Do I hear a bird?

 

[rizolltizide]

I for one is for the Immigration Law some of it is just non-sense such as drive to the store? That is a laugh lol! We all have our own opinion about the law. Now those who oppose the law & say it's ok to be illegal just come to American it's free just cross the border & pay NO TAXES! The illegals get the free health care while we the legal citizens fit there bill to stay here for free! Now you tell me that is right? This is what I assume the one's who argue against the law that it's ok to be illegal. It is ok not to pay there fair share of taxes & it's ok to do what-ever the illegal please. I for one think it is not right they are here illegal taking our jobs at a cheaper rate by a greedy company. I have nothing against any race just go through the proper channel get your legal papers & S.S. Card & pay your taxes like everybody else. This is my opinion & sticking to it. RTR!

Translation, please.

 

[RollTide2U]

Translation, please.

Smart phones have just RUINED our typing skillssss.

 

[cbi1972]

Translation, please.

I for one is for the Immigration Law some of it is just non-sense such as drive to the store? That is a laugh lol!

I support enforcement laws against illegal immigration. It amuses me that interference with obtaining driver's licenses would be the preferred mechanism of enforcement, as opposed to things like deportation.

We all have our own opinion about the law. Now those who oppose the law & say it's ok to be illegal just come to American it's free just cross the border & pay NO TAXES! The illegals get the free health care while we the legal citizens fit there bill to stay here for free! Now you tell me that is right?.

Being forced to support parasitic behavior on the part of illegal immigrants is unjust.

This is what I assume the one's who argue against the law that it's ok to be illegal. It is ok not to pay there fair share of taxes & it's ok to do what-ever the illegal please.

If you oppose enforcement of laws against illegal immigration, you are in effect encouraging parasitic behavior and lowering standards of conduct more generally.

I for one think it is not right they are here illegal taking our jobs at a cheaper rate by a greedy company.

American workers deserve employment no matter how little value they offer prospective employers.

I have nothing against any race just go through the proper channel get your legal papers & S.S. Card & pay your taxes like everybody else.

Some of my best friends are Mexican.

This is my opinion & sticking to it. RTR!

Don't bother arguing with me.

 

[RollTide2U]

I support enforcement laws against illegal immigration. It amuses me that interference with obtaining driver's licenses would be the preferred mechanism of enforcement, as opposed to things like deportation.



Being forced to support parasitic behavior on the part of illegal immigrants is unjust.


If you oppose enforcement of laws against illegal immigration, you are in effect encouraging parasitic behavior and lowering standards of conduct more generally.


American workers deserve employment no matter how little value they offer prospective employers.


Some of my best friends are Mexican.


Don't bother arguing with me.

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