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Alabama QB competition article

Crimson Speed said:
Note: I think that NFL QB thing is really the father's goal. It's a pipe dream. He has NFL talent at another position -- maybe RB, maybe TE/HB, and maybe outside LB -- but not QB.
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I agree. Jalen is great at tucking the ball and running. He is also good at those short dump off passes. Where he falls short is the ability to see the field in passing situations. If that primary receiver is not open, he usually just runs the ball. But, the NFL does not have their QBs functioning as a running back; it is too dangerous. Jalen simply does not fit the mold of an NFL QB. If he does make the roster somewhere, he will always be a second or third stringer. With that said, Jalen is a great young man and I wish him the best. Tim Tebow is a good comparison. They both have similar talent and Tebow simply could not find success in the NFL.[/QUOTE]

To be fair, Tim Tebow did lead his team to playoff.. and then lost his job... really didn't get a chance to show what he could do...
 
JustNeedMe81 said:
To be fair, Tim Tebow did lead his team to playoff.. and then lost his job... really didn't get a chance to show what he could do...
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Much like Jalen at Alabama the last 2 years, Tebow was the beneficiary of one of the best defenses in the league. I really like Tebow as a human being and college QB, but his limitations were quickly exposed in the NFL. His teams were only going to go as far as their defenses would take them.
 
B1GTide said:
Much like Jalen at Alabama the last 2 years, Tebow was the beneficiary of one of the best defenses in the league. I really like Tebow as a human being and college QB, but his limitations were quickly exposed in the NFL. His teams were only going to go as far as their defenses would take them.
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I think it's also fair to acknowledge that Tebow demonstrated some pin-point passing skills against us in the 08 SECCG. Whatever his limitations were, he was a fairly accurate passer and that day he/they were just better. Tip your hat, congratulate the opponent and work to get better (and we did in 09).
 
BamaMoon said:
I think it's also fair to acknowledge that Tebow demonstrated some pin-point passing skills against us in the 08 SECCG. Whatever his limitations were, he was a fairly accurate passer and that day he/they were just better. Tip your hat, congratulate the opponent and work to get better (and we did in 09).
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He was incredible that day...threw the ball exactly where he had to put it. Good observation...and memory.
 
JustNeedMe81 said:
I agree. Jalen is great at tucking the ball and running. He is also good at those short dump off passes. Where he falls short is the ability to see the field in passing situations. If that primary receiver is not open, he usually just runs the ball. But, the NFL does not have their QBs functioning as a running back; it is too dangerous. Jalen simply does not fit the mold of an NFL QB. If he does make the roster somewhere, he will always be a second or third stringer. With that said, Jalen is a great young man and I wish him the best. Tim Tebow is a good comparison. They both have similar talent and Tebow simply could not find success in the NFL.
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To be fair, Tim Tebow did lead his team to playoff.. and then lost his job... really didn't get a chance to show what he could do...[/QUOTE]I wish I could agree with all, but I can't really agree with the bolded part. Altogether too many of his short passes were wide, over the head or at the feet of the receiver, or the receiver has to wait on the ball until the defenders arrive almost simultaneously. There is a lengthy video on Youtube illustrating this. I won't link it, but it can be easily found...
 
Just watch the NC game, Hurts swing passes were behind the receiver coming out of the backfield. Others were low where the receiver had to stop and stoop to catch. Tua's swing passes led the receiver who was going full speed and did not have to adjust and let the defense catch up with him.
 
GrayTide said:
Just watch the NC game, Hurts swing passes were behind the receiver coming out of the backfield. Others were low where the receiver had to stop and stoop to catch. Tua's swing passes led the receiver who was going full speed and did not have to adjust and let the defense catch up with him.
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This has been belabored, I know, but Tua’s decision making is better and quicker. That makes a world of difference.
 
Nolan said:
This has been belabored, I know, but Tua’s decision making is better and quicker. That makes a world of difference.
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Yes it has been belabored but to echo these two comments it did appear to me that JH struggled with touch and accuracy on swing passes in particular the entire season. It seemed that much to often he held onto the ball to the point that routes had completely broken down.

I honestly would expect JH to have done much better last year with a QB coach like Dan Enos who would have brought intense focus to these issues.
 
TIDE-HSV said:
T I can't really agree with the bolded part. Altogether too many of his short passes were wide, over the head or at the feet of the receiver, or the receiver has to wait on the ball until the defenders arrive almost simultaneously.
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Exactly.
 
Just being honest, I haven't been too confident about a QB on the squad since Blake Sims, Tua is changing that though. Blake is seriously underrated.
 
UAH said:
Yes it has been belabored but to echo these two comments it did appear to me that JH struggled with touch and accuracy on swing passes in particular the entire season. It seemed that much to often he held onto the ball to the point that routes had completely broken down.

I honestly would expect JH to have done much better last year with a QB coach like Dan Enos who would have brought intense focus to these issues.
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FWIW, Dan Enos wasn't with the team last year.

To add to your breakdown, the touch and accuracy are well noted, but what you're speaking about also involves "timing." Jalen almost always held on to the ball way to long and threw it when the play was past being successful. Happened on swing passes but also other routes. It's why receivers very often had to stop to catch the ball.
 
Mystical said:
I had not heard this
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Think that came out the week of SEC Media Days. It seems to indicate Hurts will probably only play the 4 games allowed, redshirt, graduate and transfer with 2 years of eligibility remaining (all of this assuming Tua will start).

It also opens up the possiblity that he might try another position, but the majority opinion on the board is that's doubtful.
 
Mystical said:
I had not heard this
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That's not exactly what he said, but that is what comes of it. Essentially, Hurts told Saban that he is not going anywhere. But if you want to even be considered for the starting QB position, that's what you have to say.
 
RammerJammer15 said:
Just being honest, I haven't been too confident about a QB on the squad since Blake Sims, Tua is changing that though. Blake is seriously underrated.
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You are right. And I will admit I was one of the guys who was adamantly opposed to Blake playing QB at the time, as I saw him as a straight running QB and believed all the Coker hype. I was way wrong on that one for that season. Blake did an outstanding job for us, and Coker proved himself the following year. It all worked out.
 
BamaMoon said:
Think that came out the week of SEC Media Days. It seems to indicate Hurts will probably only play the 4 games allowed, redshirt, graduate and transfer with 2 years of eligibility remaining (all of this assuming Tua will start).

It also opens up the possiblity that he might try another position, but the majority opinion on the board is that's doubtful.
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No that's not what was said.

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JustNeedMe81 said:
https://articles.al.com/alabamafoot..._stand_in_alaba.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Lot of hints in the article.

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Lots of stuff I disagree with here especially the statement about them being fairly equal with their accuracy. That's insane and it's not even close when you look at game film.

Also, the annonymous coach forgets that Jalen hasn't proven he can lead us to a championship. Actually, he's proven otherwise.

Finally, it's bogus to make the point Tua will lose games because of TO's. It's an unproven point and the best proof is he'll win games with his arm.

Anybody could have written this article and most of what he wrote is dribble from message boards from those who think Jalen still should be the quarterback.
 
BamaMoon said:
Lots of stuff I disagree with here especially the statement about them being fairly equal with their accuracy. That's insane and it's not even close when you look at game film.

Also, the annonymous coach forgets that Jalen hasn't proven he can lead us to a championship. Actually, he's proven otherwise.

Finally, it's bogus to make the point Tua will lose games because of TO's. It's an unproven point and the best proof is he'll win games with his arm.

Anybody could have written this article and most of what he wrote is dribble from message boards from those who think Jalen still should be the quarterback.
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I have very little doubt that Jalen is solid in the accuracy department throwing into nets. Unfortunately that has very little to do with accuracy within a game. Anticipation, timing, and confidence are significantly more important than being able to spot throw.
 
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