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Alabama QB competition article

colbysullivan said:
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This is football related right?
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I have no idea what this has to do with the QB competition, but it was funny.
 
Maxbama said:
Wow. What a video. I would bet any QB coach would have a field day if they sat Jalen down and was honest with him. This video consolidates exactly what was frustrating me to no end during this last season. I can't imagine the frustration of the receivers and the coaches. What is scary to think about is how long Coach Saban let this go on. It was obvious at the end of the season that teams were playing us and challenging us to beat them with the pass. For me, it is obvious. The QB job is Tua's. All this talk about fairness and winning the team over is just chatter. The team responded to Tua in the championship game. I am excited thinking about how good our offense is going to be with a QB who can throw the ball and play the position. The running game will benefit - the OL will benefit - the defense will benefit (fewer 3 and outs) and we can dictate what we want to do and keep defenses reeling (just like Georgia). Roll Tide!
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I watched the video, and I would agree......I can also understand the talk about a mutiny at halftime in the NCG. I think a lot of the fairness talk is concerning what Saban will do as far as a competition goes, but even he has to see who is the better QB. My mind was made up a long time ago. I think Saban will make Tua the QB when all is said and done
 
I'm certainly hopeful that Tua starts day one. I really can't see any benefit of starting Jalen against Louisville. There's ample video now that teams know how to defend against Jalen.
One other thing that really bothered me was Jalen's performance in the A day game. It was the perfect setting and opportunity for him to show how he improved, and he didn't. It also looked like to me he just didn't have his head or heart in the game.
I'd be shocked if Tua didn't start the Louisville game.
 
BamaMoon said:
I'll have to go hunt that video...sounds like it confirms what we already knew.
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Does someone have the link? I would like to see it.

Imo, the coaches have been more than fair in trying to develop Jalen without sacrificing team goals and almost did that anyway. Could they have done more? Sure. Would the team threat of mutiny be more severe? Absolutely!

At some point if you want to get better you have to focus your efforts on the areas that need improvement. I think Daboll had the correct approach, he had a vertical passing and running attack philosophy. Basically, saying, "Jalen if you want to go to the next level you have to be able to move the ball with these type plays." The calls were made, the routes were there, and the receivers were open consistently. Yet Jalen couldn't execute consistently. Do you think the coaches were calling the whole offense to focus on running plays to exploit the front right quarter of the field? No that was Jalen improvising.

Jalen stifled his own development and limited his opportunities by bailing out on so many plays whether that was running out of the pocket or the rollout throwaways.

What else are the coaches supposed to do at this point? Jalen knows the plays and knows how the offense is designed to operate. Imo, he has to execute the prostyle offense better than the other QBs to keep his starting position. Essentially he has to better than Tua at what Tua does best. The only way Jalen has even a shot at remaining a viable option is injury or Tua becomes too reckless with the ball.



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If Saban starts Jalen against Louisville, it will be the biggest stain on his legacy as the greatest college football coach in history. Tua will be our QB for the 2018 season.

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JDCrimson;3231312[B said:
]Does someone have the link? I would like to see it.
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Imo, the coaches have been more than fair in trying to develop Jalen without sacrificing team goals and almost did that anyway. Could they have done more? Sure. Would the team threat of mutiny be more severe? Absolutely!

At some point if you want to get better you have to focus your efforts on the areas that need improvement. I think Daboll had the correct approach, he had a vertical passing and running attack philosophy. Basically, saying, "Jalen if you want to go to the next level you have to be able to move the ball with these type plays." The calls were made, the routes were there, and the receivers were open consistently. Yet Jalen couldn't execute consistently. Do you think the coaches were calling the whole offense to focus on running plays to exploit the front right quarter of the field? No that was Jalen improvising.

Jalen stifled his own development and limited his opportunities by bailing out on so many plays whether that was running out of the pocket or the rollout throwaways.

What else are the coaches supposed to do at this point? Jalen knows the plays and knows how the offense is designed to operate. Imo, he has to execute the prostyle offense better than the other QBs to keep his starting position. Essentially he has to better than Tua at what Tua does best. The only way Jalen has even a shot at remaining a viable option is injury or Tua becomes too reckless with the ball.



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The video contains language that can't be used on this site so it can't be linked, unfortunately. Try searching YouTube for John Doe Quarterback Competition. It's about 27 minutes long and features a man talking over footage and images of the games.
 
MobileCrimson said:
If Saban starts Jalen against Louisville, it will be the biggest stain on his legacy as the greatest college football coach in history. Tua will be our QB for the 2018 season.

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Not to mention the stain that will be on my pants!
 
Watched the whole thing last night, and it was painful.

Side note — I kept thinking I’d heard “John Doe’s” voice somewhere before. Finally hit me — it’s either the Funny Maine guy not being funny at all, or his voice doppelgänger.
 
4Q Basket Case said:
Watched the whole thing last night, and it was painful.

Side note — I kept thinking I’d heard “John Doe’s” voice somewhere before. Finally hit me — it’s either the Funny Maine guy not being funny at all, or his voice doppelgänger.
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Yeah. I didn't hear that at all. The guy making that video had worse grammar and always sounded like he may be enjoying just a little of mother nature's greenery at the time. Not saying he is clean, but I never got that from FunnyMaine.
 
MobileCrimson said:
If Saban starts Jalen against Louisville, it will be the biggest stain on his legacy as the greatest college football coach in history. Tua will be our QB for the 2018 season.

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I still think there is a really good chance that Hurts will start the Louisville game due to the respect Saban has for him. I don't think there is a way in the world he can hold off Tagovailoa, who will be the firm #1 qb by the 3rd game if not before. That said, I hope Tua blows it away in practice and is #1 from the first snap onward.
 
JDCrimson said:
At some point if you want to get better you have to focus your efforts on the areas that need improvement. I think Daboll had the correct approach, he had a vertical passing and running attack philosophy. Basically, saying, "Jalen if you want to go to the next level you have to be able to move the ball with these type plays." The calls were made, the routes were there, and the receivers were open consistently. Yet Jalen couldn't execute consistently. Do you think the coaches were calling the whole offense to focus on running plays to exploit the front right quarter of the field? No that was Jalen improvising.







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Gameplans were changed so that Hurts would only have to survey half the field. That, of course, makes it even still easier for the defense to defend. He already couldn't consistently connect with the receivers, often would take off even when receivers were wide open, and now they only had to defend half the field.

The article....https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2017/11/live_updates_from_nick_saban_r_5.html

-- Saban said Jalen Hurts has made big strides to be a more balanced QB who can pass with more consistency. They've changed some of the ways routes are run so he doesn't always have to read both sides of the field.
 
Crimson White said:
I still think there is a really good chance that Hurts will start the Louisville game due to the respect Saban has for him. I don't think there is a way in the world he can hold off Tagovailoa, who will be the firm #1 qb by the 3rd game if not before. That said, I hope Tua blows it away in practice and is #1 from the first snap onward.
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Why is everyone afraid that Jalen will bail on our team? He has had the opportunity to improve and compete. Tua is better. End of discussion. We have capable back-up if Jalen leaves. I think Coach Saban keeps it open with the press to do what he does best. Keep everyone off balance. He knows who will lead our team for the next couple of years. I have no problem with Jalen. He is a fine young man. I wish he would look to his future and try and develop in another position. He does not have the inherent skills that a good QB has. He has no future in the NFL as a QB.
 
Maxbama said:
Why is everyone afraid that Jalen will bail on our team?
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Everybody isn't. Personally, I wish he'd transfer today. I think it would be best for the team, and give Mac Jones the snaps with the 2nd team.

edit: Unless, of course, he would agree to a position change, but according to the comments by his Dad, that isn't going to happen.
 
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Crimson White said:
Everybody isn't. Personally, I wish he'd transfer today. I think it would be best for the team, and give Mac Jones the snaps with the 2nd team.
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+1. That was my thought when I read his question. I am not afraid. I am hopeful. Only because I think it will make the choice for Saban clear and allow Jalen to get out from under the scrutiny he currently has. He achieved a lot for us, and we have much to thank him for. But I don't really think it is in anyone's best interest for him to stay at Alabama.
 
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