Alabama QBs in 2024

[CrimsonBloodn62]

Do you think Saban would have allowed that to go on and not put in backups to send a message to the players who didn’t want to let Tyler or Ty be the qb. Not a chance. To think he wouldn’t bench any player who wasn’t giving max effort is insane. That man pulled out Hurts and put in Tua in a National Title Game.

I know what I saw in that game, and there were players not giving maximum effort. Saban is the only person who can answer why he let it go. From just the bits and pieces I've picked up, it sounds like the team was going to a mutiny if Jalen had not been named the starting QB after the USF game.

 

[Cruloc]

I agree when you have to dial back the playbook it makes it easier to defend. also the bad snaps were killer. But to say Rees tried to run plays oto Milroe strengths I will agree to disagree. To me he was bound and determined to hit the bigger plays especially in the first half. When you are having sack after sack you have to get the ball out of his hands or at least move the pocket to change the target point for the blitzers. IMO I would have run the play action through the zone read even on throwing plays and my reason for that is the eyes of the qb are up looking at the defense during the play action. This would help him see potential blitz’s coming. He could make quick read throws and if not there you have a rb in flat or he can pull it and run. This would have slowed down the amount of time Michigan could blitz because if he caught you out of position then that could be a house call run by Milroe. Rees improved throughout the year but his last three games were not his best play calling IMO. Not blaming him for the loss just would have liked to see more in game adjustments from him.

Milroe, while a great kid, couldn't do those basic reads that he should be able to being in his 3rd year. He couldn't make presnap reads, he couldn't run the zone read plays well at all, he couldn't hit the short, intermediate throws with any sort of consistency.

To ask why Rees didn't do this or that....the guy had to remove all the stuff Jalen couldn't do consistently and it simplified things to the point Michigan didn't have to defend the whole field.

 

[Coach25]

Milroe, while a great kid, couldn't do those basic reads that he should be able to being in his 3rd year. He couldn't make presnap reads, he couldn't run the zone read plays well at all, he couldn't hit the short, intermediate throws with any sort of consistency.

To ask why Rees didn't do this or that....the guy had to remove all the stuff Jalen couldn't do consistently and it simplified things to the point Michigan didn't have to defend the whole field.
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oh I agree his presnap reads we’re not good and neither was our line/ center who is suppose to be responsible for pointing out responsibilities. Both of those pre snap readers are to blame for so many sacks and not picking up blitzers.

 

[Grogan11]

I just honestly don’t understand how anyone that watched JM play last year thinks he can run the DeBoer-Grubb offense. It’s not just the pre snap reads, it’s the inaccuracy down the field, it’s the lack of touch on short and intermediate throws, it’s the lack of situational awareness, it’s basically everything. What games were you guys watching?

 

[Ole Man Dan]

And The Barn and UGA put spies on him.

If Milroe gets the job, every team will put spies on him.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

I know what I saw in that game, and there were players not giving maximum effort. Saban is the only person who can answer why he let it go. From just the bits and pieces I've picked up, it sounds like the team was going to a mutiny if Jalen had not been named the starting QB after the USF game.

In your Defense, there were people saying the team chose Milroe, and that some of them played or didn't play to get their way.
Their blackmail tactic gave them their choice, but did not give the other QBs a real chance to strut their stuff.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS TRUE OR NOT.

 

[Coach25]

I don’t know if he wi

I just honestly don’t understand how anyone that watched JM play last year thinks he can run the DeBoer-Grubb offense. It’s not just the pre snap reads, it’s the inaccuracy down the field, it’s the lack of touch on short and intermediate throws, it’s the lack of situational awareness, it’s basically everything. What games were you guys watching?

Oh I have no idea if he will win the starting job or not. All I know is I’m going to support him and any other player on the team if he is the starting qb it’s because he’s earned it.

 

[HighlandOak]

You act as ifJaylen can’t look at a defensive end and see if he is crashing. I can take any player on our high school team and run the zone read. To think he isn’t smart enough to do to at is an insult to him. I don’t care what some announcer says. The thought that a college team especially a team like Alabama can’t teach a player to read a d end is absurd.

Now to tell him which route they want him to look to first and throw is completely different and while highly unlikely they told him to only throw to a predetermined route no matter what seems far fetched.

If that is really the case then I am super excited that Rees is gone and hope we never hire him back at Alabama because that is a foolish way to call plays (which he didn’t) and he wouldn’t have won 7 games much less 12 games.

Rees only called plays like that because of Milroe's limitations as a QB.

 

[HighlandOak]

Do you think Saban would have allowed that to go on and not put in backups to send a message to the players who didn’t want to let Tyler or Ty be the qb. Not a chance. To think he wouldn’t bench any player who wasn’t giving max effort is insane. That man pulled out Hurts and put in Tua in a National Title Game.

He also waited an entire season too long to give Tua the nod.

 

[Coach25]

He was a top 10 QB in all of football in QBR. We like to point out all of the flaws and he has flaws don’t get me wrong but according to the metrics he was highly efficient as a qb for us according to people a lot smarter than me.

I also went back and watched some sped up games. and he most definitely reads the defensive end on zone reads. Some times he even reads the backside d-end. These are just a few but I did notice if it was a designed keeper up the middle between tackles he would rush his pull and not hold in the belly of the rb long enough. He has to do a better job of selling that fake as well.

 

[Coach25]

He also waited an entire season too long to give Tua the nod.

I’ll trust Sabans judgement on when to start and when to bench players. If he thought Tua wasn’t ready and Hurts gave us the best chance to win then go Hurts, if He benched Hurts at the start of the year then go Tua. I mean he only won a National a title that year so I’d say his jusdgement was correct for the season and in the Championship game. He’s only the GOAT.

 

[Coach25]

Here is the auburn game about check downs and short to intermediate passes. He did a great job of taking what the defense was giving him

 

[Bamabuzzard]

By an announcer… Buzzard I have the upmost respect for you and we will just have to disagree. I just feel like anyone that is smart enough and talented enough to become the qb at a power 5 school is smart enough to read the d-end.

The coaches,. Both Nick Saban and Tommy Rees are the ones who told the announcers this info in their weekly meetings with the game crew, not something they made up. It has nothing to do with being smart or intelligence. But decision making in split second time frames. A lot of people are smart enough to read a DE but can't doing in a split second.

 

[gtgilbert]

Here is the auburn game about check downs and short to intermediate passes. He did a great job of taking what the defense was giving him

You mean this Auburn game where it was announced JM couldn't make the RPO reads and he had been guessing before so the coaches predetermined for him:

Or here where he again misses the TE right down the middle - hot read to take pressure off:

or here where the read of the field is super delayed:
https://youtu.be/Q36L7Q9GHwA?si=x1kaEvo4mhRpFqG1&t=68

or whatever this debacle was, missing the RB early, then not having field awareness to just get the first down:
https://youtu.be/Q36L7Q9GHwA?si=6g9ijo8Du3eDON_O&t=114

or here where JM didn't pull the trigger to the wide open TE (AGAIN) for a first down:
https://youtu.be/EsB1SC9Nns8?si=ypuBLIIkM6yI576k&t=66

or here where Benson was WIDE OPEN for what should have been an easy completion and good gain:
https://youtu.be/EsB1SC9Nns8?si=cDR3hjFdzXVnyNbd&t=110

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

You mean this Auburn game where it was announced JM couldn't make the RPO reads and he had been guessing before so the coaches predetermined for him:

Or here where he again misses the TE right down the middle - hot read to take pressure off:

or here where the read of the field is super delayed:

or whatever this debacle was, missing the RB early, then not having field awareness to just get the first down:
https://youtu.be/Q36L7Q9GHwA?si=6g9ijo8Du3eDON_O&t=114

or here where JM didn't pull the trigger to the wide open TE (AGAIN) for a first down:
https://youtu.be/EsB1SC9Nns8?si=ypuBLIIkM6yI576k&t=66

or here where Benson was WIDE OPEN for what should have been an easy completion and good gain:
https://youtu.be/EsB1SC9Nns8?si=cDR3hjFdzXVnyNbd&t=110

I don't disagree with Milroe criticism and I think there is a very good shot he loses the job. But it's very hard to do this without all 22.

For example the 2nd to last one I think Milroe actually made the right throw to Bond he just didn't make a good throw. But again hard to tell without all 22.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I don't disagree with Milroe criticism and I think there is a very good shot he loses the job. But it's very hard to do this without all 22.

For example the 2nd to last one I think Milroe actually made the right throw to Bond he just didn't make a good throw. But again hard to tell without all 22.

Yep, no doubt JM wasn't the only problem last season, and I think Seth made 100% right move in transferring because THAT GUY needed a reset. But as it pertains to Milroe, and the things he was and should have been responsible for, he has A LOT, and I mean A LOT of work to do in order to run the offense that's being brought here. The same may can be said for Simpson and Lonergan, but we don't know because according to Sabans QB process, Milroe "won the team" and he's all we saw for the bulk of the season.

 

[Coach25]

The coaches,. Both Nick Saban and Tommy Rees are the ones who told the announcers this info in their weekly meetings with the game crew, not something they made up. It has nothing to do with being smart or intelligence. But decision making in split second time frames. A lot of people are smart enough to read a DE but can't doing in a split second.

Like I said we will disagree the tape just doesn’t show that he can’t read the d end. We prolly ran that play as much if not more than other plays in every game. Including the Sec title where he read the d end all game excluding the Playoff game. The tape shows it wasnt a predetermined read. He pulled it when the d end steped down the line or stunted inside the blockers.

If Saban really did say this to an announcer which I highly doubt he would give out information of that nature why would keep running the play so often and doing it so well in SEC championship.

I would be more likely to think that they took away his presnap read and did not allow him to change the play. That I understand 1000%.

 

[gtgilbert]

I don't disagree with Milroe criticism and I think there is a very good shot he loses the job. But it's very hard to do this without all 22.

For example the 2nd to last one I think Milroe actually made the right throw to Bond he just didn't make a good throw. But again hard to tell without all 22.

I'd love the all 22 as well, but in this case the TE is right there for the first down, it's a shorter, easier throw and keeps the drive going.

 

[B1GTide]

Last year was a broken season, and a huge waste if talent. Does not matter who was at fault. They are all gone now. DeBoer is going to do this his way. Saban is playing golf while DeBoer and his staff are working long hours to get ready for 2024.

Forget last year. Time to focus on this year. And we will all support these players and coaches. That is what we do. It is all that we can do.

So, Roll Tide, and let's just see how this all plays out.

 

[gtgilbert]

Like I said we will disagree the tape just doesn’t show that he can’t read the d end. We prolly ran that play as much if not more than other plays in every game. Including the Sec title where he read the d end all game excluding the Playoff game. The tape shows it wasnt a predetermined read. He pulled it when the d end steped down the line or stunted inside the blockers.

If Saban really did say this to an announcer which I highly doubt he would give out information of that nature why would keep running the play so often and doing it so well in SEC championship.

I would be more likely to think that they took away his presnap read and did not allow him to change the play. That I understand 1000%.

The tape in the first first two clips I posted here in response say otherwise about him reading the edge player. Sure, he looks over there, but he's not making reads. The coaches told the media in the call during the week they'd further simplified things to take out the read.

Alabama QBs in 2024

Do you think Saban would have allowed that to go on and not put in backups to send a message to the players who didn’t want to let Tyler or Ty be the qb. Not a chance. To think he wouldn’t bench any player who wasn’t giving max effort is insane. That man pulled out Hurts and put in Tua in a...

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