As expected, Clowney picks USCe

USC3521

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I think the Bama game against MSU and the USC game against Bama showed what either team is capable of when clicking on all cylinders.
 

brutetough

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sorry if I didn't follow much of your games but out of the 4 names you mentioned, I only remember two (Lattimore and Jeffery). I'm living in Big 10 back yard and SEC teams don't get much exposure on newspapers at all here unless you are a nationally respected team and a HT winner.
Devin Taylor was 1st team All-SEC this year as a sophomore and JC would be playing opposite of him. USC was top 5 in the country in sacks. That's not the most valid argument. And are the guys I mentioned (Lattimore, Jeffery, Gilmore) not respected around the country? Yes, they are.
 

twofbyc

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Devin Taylor was 1st team All-SEC this year as a sophomore and JC would be playing opposite of him. USC was top 5 in the country in sacks. That's not the most valid argument. And are the guys I mentioned (Lattimore, Jeffery, Gilmore) not respected around the country? Yes, they are.
As talented as JC is or might be, penciling him in as a freshman starter on the d-line doesn't suddenly mean USC has the baddest D in the conference. Top 5 in sacks in one of if not the weakest division in the FBS...not saying it's not a good stat, but let's get real; who in the SEC East had an offense? Sure, you played Bama and the barn (twice), Hogs whipped you pretty bad, but you didn't play the the Dogs or the Who's.
So while not the most valid argument, I will put Bama's DLine next year up against SC's, with or without JC.
 
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Clowney's Clemson visit still a go
DE Jadeveon Clowney's scheduled official visit to Clemson this weekend is still on as of early Friday evening according to a source familar with his plans. Clowney has a basketball game tonight in Fort Mill. He's been nursing a sprained ankle but is planning to try to play tonight. Clowney has also taken official visits to USC and Alabama. North Carolina is another possible official visit he's considering, and LSU has been working for a trip as well. Clowney still plans to wait until Valentine's Day to announce.
 

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My reference was to the fact that he was the "Can't miss prospect of the decade" if you listened to recruiting analysts, and he only had 500 yards receiving last year (100 against us). My point is that depending on where you go, if you dont have a solid supporting cast, then you can't be as successful as other schools. JC would be infinitely better in our 3-4 with guys like Jesse Williams drawing double teams in the middle.
An addition of Clowney would make the 2012 DL one of the nation's best. That being said, I'm not holding my breath on Clowney signing with Alabama next month. Regardless, Alabama will still field another national top five defense.
 

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I really think we need to stop comparing USCe and UA when it comes to who's better. If they didn't beat us last year there's no comparison but fact is they did. They played the game of their life and won. Sure they didn't look great most of the year but a lot of teams can claim that and that doesn't factor huge into JC's decision. Both schools could get him exposure being in the SEC but UA does get more televised games. Bowers wasn't on tv a lot and he's going to be a top 5 pick. Ultimately for me, it comes down to who can develop him more for the NFL game.

Since CNS has been at UA he's put 3 players in the first round of the nfl draft and CSS has none in that span. I believe that CNS develops his players better than CSS. If JC treats this like a business decision then I believe CNS and the UA coaching staff have given JC something to think about but it's not fair to compare teams with records unless you want to mention the one game we played against each other. USCe didn't have to play almost every SEC game against a team that just had a bye week but we didn't have to play Florida in the swamp when Florida was getting better. I hope he goes at this like it's a business decision b/c then I believe we are going to get him but I think it's close either way
 

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I really think we need to stop comparing USCe and UA when it comes to who's better. If they didn't beat us last year there's no comparison but fact is they did. They played the game of their life and won. Sure they didn't look great most of the year but a lot of teams can claim that and that doesn't factor huge into JC's decision. Both schools could get him exposure being in the SEC but UA does get more televised games. Bowers wasn't on tv a lot and he's going to be a top 5 pick. Ultimately for me, it comes down to who can develop him more for the NFL game.

Since CNS has been at UA he's put 3 players in the first round of the nfl draft and CSS has none in that span. I believe that CNS develops his players better than CSS. If JC treats this like a business decision then I believe CNS and the UA coaching staff have given JC something to think about but it's not fair to compare teams with records unless you want to mention the one game we played against each other. USCe didn't have to play almost every SEC game against a team that just had a bye week but we didn't have to play Florida in the swamp when Florida was getting better. I hope he goes at this like it's a business decision b/c then I believe we are going to get him but I think it's close either way
Not all 18 yrs old are going to treat their choice a business decision. Unfortunately for Alabama, I think JC stays with his heart and goes to USCe. I am hoping I am wrong but something tells me I'm not.
 

DurdenTider

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Not all 18 yrs old are going to treat their choice a business decision. Unfortunately for Alabama, I think JC stays with his heart and goes to USCe. I am hoping I am wrong but something tells me I'm not.
Only reason I bring up the business decision scenerio is that he's mentioned it many times in interviews that he's approaching his decision like it's a "business decision"
 

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Only reason I bring up the business decision scenerio is that he's mentioned it many times in interviews that he's approaching his decision like it's a "business decision"
Then I agree with you that if he treats this as a business decision then Bama is prolly his choice because the only thing guarantee about going to USCe is that he'll play good football and get drafted in three years. Ultimately he may say it will be a "business decision", in the end it will be an emotional decision.
 

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As talented as JC is or might be, penciling him in as a freshman starter on the d-line doesn't suddenly mean USC has the baddest D in the conference. Top 5 in sacks in one of if not the weakest division in the FBS...not saying it's not a good stat, but let's get real; who in the SEC East had an offense? Sure, you played Bama and the barn (twice), but you didn't play the Hogs or the Dogs or the Who's.
So while not the most valid argument, I will put Bama's DLine next year up against SC's, with or without JC.
They actually did play the Hog's at home and got absolutely destroyed.
 

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I really think we need to stop comparing USCe and UA when it comes to who's better.
Agree, it's a silly comparrison and probably not a major determing factor in JC's recruitment.

Sure they didn't look great most of the year
Not so fast. In USC's 9 wins the average margin of victory was 21 points, and every single one of those victories was by double-digits. That may not be "great", but it's pretty darn good. Plus, in 3 of USC's 5 losses Lattimore was hurt (USC still loses to arky, but definitely beats UK and probably FSU with Lattimore in the game). They looked horrible against auburn and Arky, but otherwise had a very good season.

but UA does get more televised games.
I don't think that is as much the case as it used to be. I believe USC had 11 games televised this year. No doubt Bama gets more national love, no debate there.

Bowers wasn't on tv a lot and he's going to be a top 5 pick.
Good point, though it is worth pointing out that Bowers wasn't on TV a lot in Alabama, but got a lot of TV exposure up and down the east coast, including in highly populated Boston and DC markets.



Ultimately for me, it comes down to who can develop him more for the NFL game. Since CNS has been at UA he's put 3 players in the first round of the nfl draft and CSS has none in that span. I believe that CNS develops his players better than CSS.
A few flaws in your logic. If you are comparing coaches, compare their entire careers, not just last 3 years. Do so and the two coaches stack up fairly even. You are leaving Ellis Johnson out of the equation, his record of player development is very good and has placed many players in the nfl, he is the head defensive coach at USC. You only discuss first round draftees of the past 3 years. Ironically with CSS being an offensive mind, he has actually put a lot of defensive players into the nfl since coming to USC. Go play around on Google, I think you'll be surprised at the number of USC defensive players on nfl rosters this past season.

Going back to the Bowers example, if this is just a business decision for JC (I don't believe that for a minute), then both coaches and both schools can provide a nice path to the nfl.
 

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They actually did play the Hog's at home and got absolutely destroyed.[/QUOTE

Oops...I need to correct that...or maybe not, that's even a stronger point...:conf2:
Thanks for pointing that out. I had forgotten that out of the four games they played against West teams, they lost 3 and only one of the losses was even remotely close...
 

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If he is treating this like a business decision then he should just go ahead and commit to Bama! There is not a single thing for his career that Bama can't offer and add to! South Carolina just had the best season of their school history and still lost by 6 touchdowns in the SEC Championship game.....Alabama had an off year and won 10 games! I see the kid picking SC simply due to being close by...but if he does indeed take this as a business decision...the kid will be running around in a Crimson jersey in front 100,000+!
 

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Clowney wrapping up Clemson visit
South Pointe DE Jadeveon Clowney spent the weekend at Clemson on an official visit. He arrived early Saturday morning and attended the basketball game sitting with Tigers head coach Dabo Swinney behind the Clemson bench. His mother and father joined him on the visit. Clowney may still take another visit. North Carolina and LSU have been trying to get him scheduled. Tar Heels head coach Butch Davis met with him last week. Clowney has another weekend available to visit because he won’t sign until February 14th, his birthday. Coaches from USC and Alabama also met with Clowney last week. “I’ll just flat out tell you, I think he’s going to the University of South Carolina,” said Bobby Carroll, Clowney’s coach at South Pointe throughout his career and now the coach at York. “I’ve thought that since day one. I just believe that’s where he’s going.
 

RTRinGA89

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Quick question: I know we run the 3-4 here with the Jack being the 4th pass rusher when need be. Does anyone know if Clowney is being recruited for the Jack or straight up the DE? Because seeing Clowney on tape, the guy is incredibly fast for his position and I was wondering if he would be asked to gain 20-30 lbs (I think he's around 265ish according to recruiting sites); don't know if gaining that weight would slow him down...Oh and USCe runs a 4-3 right? So I'm guessing he'll be recruited to play the strongside DE? thanks, sorry if this has already been talked about, didn't really want to read through each page on the thread.
 

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I think he could go either way. He's just too fast for it to matter, and big enough to hold his own.

I like the idea of 3rd-and-longs: Clowney-Dial-Williams-Upshaw from L to R
 
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