Awburnt professor says he will not cooperate.

BAMMAR

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Gundlach says he won't cooperate with the investigation and that there was probably no ncaa violation because it was offered to more than just athletes.
I do not have the link but it's in todays Atlanta Journal and constution>
If someone can link it that might help.
 

nivekstan

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investigating bodies are usually okay with someone who is unwilling to participate because the accusations are "probably" not a violation. i suspect he's been feeling some heat from within.
 

Tide49

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I saw it, and from what I could gather, Gundlach was mostly upset and not cooperating because some administrator said in a newspaper that he thought Gundlach was motivated by jealousy for being passed over for a promotion that Petee got. He sounded fed up and like he wanted out because of that.

Or, of course, that could just be his cover for getting his pockets lined.... or maybe he got intimidated by the insane Barners who are sending him threatening messages and swapping his home address on internet message boards.
 

Queasy1

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Sep 1, 2003
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AJC Link

The professor who blew the whistle on allegations of academic misconduct involving Auburn football players said he would no longer assist with the university's investigation of his claims, The Huntsville Times reported Monday.

James Gundlach, director of sociology at Auburn, also said there probably were no violations of NCAA rules since the courses under investigation were available to all students, not just athletes.

He said he sent an e-mail to university officials saying he would not cooperate with the review, which centers on his claims that Thomas Petee, a higher-ranking professor in the sociology department, gave high grades to athletes who enrolled in classes that didn't require them to do much work or attend classes.

Gundlach said he made his decision not to cooperate based on the reported comments of an unnamed university official in a Huntsville Times story on Friday. In the story, the official was quoted as saying Gundlach's complaints were prompted in part because of dissatisfaction over missing out on a promotion that went to Petee.

Gundlach called the claim "a total falsehood."

"The only contested office I ran for was director of sociology, and I won that. There are no sour grapes here," he said.
 

exiledNms

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Aug 2, 2002
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To add to the least of "really lame defenses":

"Well, it's not a violation, because we offered the same bogus classes to some other students too..."

Pitiful. Probably effective, but still pitiful
 

Proxigean Tide

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Excuse would be more accurate if it read:

"Even though 20 percent of our football team were enrolled in these bogus, no work, no attendence, 'guarentee you'll get an A' courses...its not an NCAA violation because the courses were offered to other students".

I wonder what percentage of a team has to be awarded fraudulant grades before it becomes an NCAA eligibility issue? RTR.
 

sabanball

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Sounds like he's humming Lowder's theme song...


Money, get away.
Get a good job with good pay and youre okay.
Money, its a gas.
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash.
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think Ill buy me a football team.

Money, get back.
Im all right jack keep your hands off of my stack.
Money, its a hit.
Dont give me that do goody good ********.
Im in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a lear jet.
 

BamaBuc

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If au can offer sociology classes with no attendence required and at least a 'B' guaranteed! Then I think that UA and any other school should be allowed to offer any course they wanted with the same guarantees!

Some examples are below:

1. Deer/Dear Hunting: In the woods or on the beaches!

2. BOTTOM Diving: Keep your Imagination in check!

3. TOP Surfing: Same as #2

4. Any combination of the above or all for a
max grade of 3 A's, Min grade of 3B's.....

I intentionally left out Basket Weaving because I remember Joe Willie said it was to hard! Maybe I should have put in Beach Journalism!
 

TheBamaMan

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BamaBuc said:
If au can offer sociology classes with no attendence required and at least a 'B' guaranteed! Then I think that UA and any other school should be allowed to offer any course they wanted with the same guarantees!

Some examples are below:

1. Deer/Dear Hunting: In the woods or on the beaches!

2. BOTTOM Diving: Keep your Imagination in check!

3. TOP Surfing: Same as #2

4. Any combination of the above or all for a
max grade of 3 A's, Min grade of 3B's.....

I intentionally left out Basket Weaving because I remember Joe Willie said it was to hard! Maybe I should have put in Beach Journalism!

I am sure Bama has some type of easy classes just like almost everyone in the country. Does that make it right? NO! Just because "everyone does it" does not make an excuse. I think we need to be accountable for out actions (including Bama) not matter the consequences...
 

TNBama

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Apr 19, 2000
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So let me get this straight - if non-athlete students receive the same inappropriate benefits that some athletes receive, even if disproportionately, then the NCAA considers it a non violation. Well then folks, theres the loophole. For each athlete a booster chooses to pay or buy a car, just do the same for one NON athlete and its not a violation!!!! :eek:
 

cbi1972

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TNBama said:
So let me get this straight - if non-athlete students receive the same inappropriate benefits that some athletes receive, even if disproportionately, then the NCAA considers it a non violation. Well then folks, theres the loophole. For each athlete a booster chooses to pay or buy a car, just do the same for one NON athlete and its not a violation!!!! :eek:
Ray Melick and Kelly Hunter were shouting down callers on JOX Monday afternoon with basically this line: "If it's available to all students, it's not an extra benefit, and not an NCAA violation"
 

BocaLance

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Oct 18, 2001
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Ya'll, this guy is disgruntled. He has already gone on record saying Auburn's own internal investigation would likely be a sham, and now he has an axe because they fingered him publicly. This doesn't mean he won't point SACS or others to the right place, it just means he isn't going to play Auburn's charade anymore. He's also the one saying there is at least one other department with similar problems. :eek:

For all intents and purposes, this is not a football story. Auburn football will just cease to exist if Auburn loses accreditation.:cool2:
 

IH8Orange

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Aug 14, 2000
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I'm sure that Richardson acquired a copy of The University of Tennessee Handbook of Internal Academic or Athletic Investigations:

Chapter 1: We Investigated and Found No Violations

This is acceptable if no imminent NCAA or other organizational heat appears likely.

Chapter 2: We Investigated and Found a Couple of Minor Violations

If possible NCAA or other organizational action may be taken, take this route and self-sanction yourself by giving up some meaningless recruiting resources.

Chapter 3: Always Minimize the Perception of Wrongdoing by Pointing Out The Past Misdeeds of Others and Making an Arbitrary Comparison That Quantifies Your Own Misdeed as Miniscule in Relation.

If an Auburn official is reading this, call someone to translate for you. :cool:
 

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