Until there are real consequences for police who do this it will never stop.
Bad cop, good cop stories, III
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Until there are real consequences for police who do this it will never stop.
To clarify--the woman who was facetiming Fortson when the shooting happened has stated that the police must have gone to the wrong house.
The police haven't said a word.
Also, this is the same sheriff's office that employed the deputy that opened up on a handcuffed suspect because an acorn fell on the car. Make of that what you will.
The police haven't said a word.
Also, this is the same sheriff's office that employed the deputy that opened up on a handcuffed suspect because an acorn fell on the car. Make of that what you will.
yeah, just placing them on administrative leave somehow isn't working 🙄.
I am betting that the body cam footage will be "lost" or they somehow malfunctioned. the cops will claim they performed proper procedure.
Cops go to wrong apartment, kill USAF airman
Florida deputies who fatally shot US airman burst into wrong apartment, attorney says
A civil rights attorney says deputies responding to a disturbance call at a Florida apartment complex burst into the wrong unit and fatally shot a Black U.S.apnews.com
This is the case of a lie being halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. He was at the apartment he was supposed to be. He didn’t burst in. He announced.
The airman whipped the door open with a gun in plain view. The deputy reacted. Badly maybe, but I’m a little more charitable than most. The second someone whips a door open and the first thing I see is a deadly weapon, I assume they intend to use it. Police are not automatons. They are human beings. He was responding to a domestic disturbance call. A gun came into play.
It’s all a big dumb machine that eats fear and craps tragedy.
The lady at the apartment complex pointed out the wrong apartment?
She should be held accountable to some degree.
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When I said "held accountable" I was thinking more along the lines of including this as a bigger factor in the incident as it's being reported. I realize it's already a part of the story - but shouldn't her role in the whole thing be more of the story? At the very least with emphasis on consequences when someone calls 9-1-1 when they didn't need to or shouldn't have?
Not apples to apples exactly, but it's why we don't yell "Fire!" in a theater - unless there really is a fire.
Maybe I don't have my facts straight here....did I understand that she called because of something that happened two weeks prior?
Roger Fortson,: Florida sheriff releases bodycam video of airman fatally shot in apartment, disputes family’s claim deputy went to wrong unit | CNN
Doesn't appear to have happened 2 weeks prior. I think there were mistakes by all involved, including the lady from the leasing office who met the officer.
The fact that she wasn't sure should have given the officer pause IMO. If you are going to call the cops and accuse someone of something, then that cop is going to go in guns blazing, you have got to know 100% you have the right apartment. "Not sure where it came from" doesn't cut it IMO. Officer should have said "well until you know for sure we can't do anything."
Answering the door with a gun in your hand was dumb. I don't know why that is getting a pass by most folks. Cops are humans as well and if someone answers the door armed it is going to freak most people out. He did not give much time between "step back" and firing for the guy to do much of anything. He didn't say "drop the gun" until the guy hit the ground.
This is why I say everyone messed up. The lady not being 100% sure, the airman for answering the door armed and the officer not giving him enough time to respond to his step back command or the late drop the gun command.
Doesn't appear to have happened 2 weeks prior. I think there were mistakes by all involved, including the lady from the leasing office who met the officer.
The fact that she wasn't sure should have given the officer pause IMO. If you are going to call the cops and accuse someone of something, then that cop is going to go in guns blazing, you have got to know 100% you have the right apartment. "Not sure where it came from" doesn't cut it IMO. Officer should have said "well until you know for sure we can't do anything."
Answering the door with a gun in your hand was dumb. I don't know why that is getting a pass by most folks. Cops are humans as well and if someone answers the door armed it is going to freak most people out. He did not give much time between "step back" and firing for the guy to do much of anything. He didn't say "drop the gun" until the guy hit the ground.
This is why I say everyone messed up. The lady not being 100% sure, the airman for answering the door armed and the officer not giving him enough time to respond to his step back command or the late drop the gun command.
When you are the professional, the police, everybody else messing up is no excuse.
Police are still human. As long as things remain way they are this will continue to happen. They’re not automatons like ED-209. They’re gonna make calls that, with the benefit of hindsight, are wrong.
Welcome to a world where people can employ deadly force on a whim.
bwahahahaha. white shirts to the rescue
nypost.com
A top NYPD officer was seemingly caught on camera accidentally pepper-spraying himself while trying to break up an anti-Israel demonstration on the Manhattan Bridge Saturday.
Video shared on social media shows NYPD Assistant Chief James McCarthy getting a faceful of the chemical irritant as he tried to deploy it on protesters who brought traffic to a standstill as they marched across the bridge Saturday evening.
Top NYPD cop pepper-sprays himself breaking up anti-Israel protest on Manhattan Bridge
Video shared on social media shows NYPD Assistant Chief James McCarthy getting a face-full of the chemical irritant as he tried to deploy it on protesters who brought traffic to a standstill.
nypost.com
A top NYPD officer was seemingly caught on camera accidentally pepper-spraying himself while trying to break up an anti-Israel demonstration on the Manhattan Bridge Saturday.
Video shared on social media shows NYPD Assistant Chief James McCarthy getting a faceful of the chemical irritant as he tried to deploy it on protesters who brought traffic to a standstill as they marched across the bridge Saturday evening.
You know, this places a homeowner in a bind, if he decides to defend his household while armed. If a LEO has permission to fire immediately. I know of a couple of instances, and there are probably many, many more where a home invasion began with the invaders pounding on the door and impersonating LEOs. Worse, in the almost 40 years I've occupied this house, I can think of two instances in which I answered the door, gun in hand. And I was justified. I now have cameras placed where I can ask visitors for identification and avoid that risk. This case is "stand your ground" and "qualified immunity" bashing head-on. The young officer here, who shot a guy holding a gun to his own head, seconds after entering, found out the hard way that he didn't have a license to kill. He was first convicted of murder, got that reversed, and accepted a plea deal for voluntary manslaughter...
I don't see how on one hand it can be said one has a right to bear arms and on the other hand a LEO has immunity to shoot on sight and they see a gun. I mentioned regarding the woman who was shot through the window and it's the same here and has happened elsewhere. There is no right to bear arms if the police can shoot you on sight for having one in your had pointed at the ground. The right doesn't exist if this is allowed to occur over and over.
So the cops had better quit, ask for a change in gun laws, or just be willing to die for the cause of the right to bear arms on occasion.
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