Bama getting no respect

[dayhiker]

Selma! Brevity not your forté, huh?

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[colbysullivan]

1. Georgia: at Tennessee, at Georgia Tech, vs Alabama
2. Ohio State: vs Minnesota, at Michigan, (vs Iowa if the beat Michigan)
3. Michigan: at Maryland, vs Ohio State, (vs Iowa if the beat Ohio State)
4. FSU: at Florida, (vs Louisville likely)
5. Washington: at Oregon State, vs Washington State, (vs Oregon likely)
6. Oregon: at Arizona State, vs Oregon State, (vs Washington likely)
7. Texas: at Iowa State, vs Texas Tech, (vs someone, maybe KSU again)
8. Alabama: vs UTC, at Auburn, vs Georgia

Games to watch in that group:
- SECCG
- Ohio State at Michigan
- ACCCG
- Washington at Oregon State
- Oregon State at Oregon
- PAC 12 CG
- Texas at Iowa State
- BIG 12 CG
- Alabama at Auburn

Those are the games most important to us. Maybe Oregon State takes out Washington. Maybe Iowa State takes out Texas.

A Washington, FSU, or Texas loss should be all we need, assuming we win out. Then you have an easy top 4 with the SEC, B1G, Big12, and Pac12 champs. Our chances aren't that crazy. We just need one of three teams to lose.

Even if that doesn't happen, we are talking about a 1-loss SEC champ playing the hardest schedule in the nation, improving more than any other team in the nation, with more ranked wins than any other team, having lost in week 2 while breaking in a new OC, DC, and QB....potentially getting left out of the playoffs. Guys, it's lunacy.

 

[CrimSonami]

The CFP is not the Supreme Court setting case law.

There's no such thing as "precedents," and I don't know why people keep thinking there is.

If there is, why are people so quick to remember that TCU didn't drop last year and forget they dropped THREE SPOTS after a 52-point win in 2014?

If we're gonna go with the precedent argument, the CFP was justified in keeping out two-loss Alabama behind one-loss TCU last year on the basis of INCLUDING one-loss Alabama over B1G champion Ohio State in 2017.

Okay, "precedent" is the wrong term to apply here. I can agree with that. Neither is "standard" because they obviously don't consistently operate to any. My point still is they have included a team with a CCG loss before and may very well do it again. And if we are still a 1 Loss team ranked 2-3 spots out at the time, I don't see them moving Bama passed UGA with a close win. If we have 2 losses, then the best we can hope for is NY-6 bowl IMO.

 

[Power Eye]

Short of some real chaos over the next few weeks, there are really only 8 teams that have a legit shot at the playoff, and unfortunately, I think us and Texas are the only ones that don't control their own destiny. If we did lose to UGA, then I think Texas is out.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

The problem with conference champions is the conferences aren't even remotely equal, and you'll end up with undeserving teams making the playoffs.

The other problem is that it would create a situation like 1983 UCLA (there are others, that's just one that's obvious to me) can go 6-4-1 (essentially, a .500 team) and be in the playoff because they just happened to win the "right" games while getting blown out by #1 by 32 points.

The four-team attempts to provide the best balance between a meaningful regular season and meaningful playoff. They only went with a committee to ensure jokes like Boise State didn't get in there because voters have Bad News Bears Syndrome. I was fine with a four-team BCS, but folks aren't quick to bring out that would have put some teams like Utah and Boise into the mix, which is worse than the committee.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Short of some real chaos over the next few weeks, there are really only 8 teams that have a legit shot at the playoff, and unfortunately, I think us and Texas are the only ones that don't control their own destiny. If we did lose to UGA, then I think Texas is out.

Again, Washington is walking a tightrope. I think that one will take care of itself - and probably this weekend. People don't get how weird it is for Pac-12 teams to go on the road to Corvallis. Remember - OSU beat dynasty-era USC twice in a row in Reser Stadium, and this team is better than those (and UW not as good as the USC dynasty).

It would also be nice for Florida to perform a mob hit for the SEC family, but I'm not hopeful on that one.

 

[TideEngineer08]

I think we all just want consistency. And that goes for so much in life in general right now. A great deal of societal frustration is because of the lack of consistency in the application of standards.

Ok, so that's not going to happen with this committee because they are human and humans are fallible and this committee happens to be made up of some of the worst kinds of humans. Sarcasm there, but not really.

But I still say that if we are sitting at 12-1 having just played the toughest schedule in the country, or top 5 at least, and having just beaten a 29 wins and 2 NCs in a row Georgia, we will get in. I don't know how but I'll believe it until it doesn't happen. So, in the famous words of Al Borges, "just win baby."

 

[Cruloc]

November 18
11:00am - UTC at Bama (Bama wins, moves to 10-1)
11:00am - Michigan at Maryland (Michigan wins, moves to 11-0)
11:00am - Louisville at Miami (Louisville wins, moves to 10-1)
2:30pm - Georgia at Tennessee (Georgia wins, moves to 11-0)
3:00pm - Minnesota at Ohio State (Ohio State wins, moves to 11-0)
3:00pm - Oregon at Arizona State (Oregon wins, moves to 10-1)
5:30pm - North Alabama at FSU (FSU wins, moves to 11-0)
6:30pm - Washington at Oregon State (Oregon State is favored by 2.5)
7:00pm - Texas at Iowa State (Texas is favored by 7.5)

The two games this weekend I'm most interested in are the two late games. Both homes teams have been playing very well lately.

November 24
6:30pm - Texas Tech at Texas (Texas wins, they are either 11-1 or 10-2)
7:30pm - Oregon State at Oregon (Oregon wins at home, moves to 11-1)

November 25
TBD - Alabama at Auburn (Bama wins a tough one, moves to 11-1)
TBD - Iowa State at KSU (may determine if KSU makes it to play Texas again)
11:00am - Ohio State at Michigan (winner is in the playoff)
3:00pm - Washington State at Washington
6:00pm - FSU at Florida (this isn't a gimmie for FSU in the Swamp)
6:30pm - Georgia at Georgia Tech (UGA moves to 12-0)

Championship game December 1
7:00pm - Pac 12 (likely Washington and Oregon, but Oregon State and Arizona are still not eliminated)

Championship games December 2
11:00am - Big 12 (Texas and OSU / KSU / OU / Iowa State)
3:00pm - SECCG (Bama vs Georgia)
7:00pm - ACCCG (FSU vs likely Louisville)
7:00pm - Big 10 CG (Michigan/Ohio State vs very likely Iowa)

 

[AlexanderFan]

Keeping Alabama that low ensures there will be only one SEC team in the playoff. It’s that simple. Either Alabama beats Georgia and slides in as the 4, or Georgia wins and stays 1. That’s all this is doing.

Georgia will fall out if they lose because Alabama wins the head to head, and Alabama should be ahead of them.

I’m not even sure total chaos would get two SEC teams in the playoff again. The rest of the country doesn’t want it.

 

[Power Eye]

The Pac 12 and Big 12 title games will have been played before kickoff of the SECCG. Not that it matters really, but we will have a better sense of where stand before kickoff of the game.

 

[cbi1972]

Too much is being made of rankings right now. Once all the games are played, we will be ranked where we belong.

 

[BamaBoySince89]

Texas (-7.5) vs Iowa St seems to be a tricky one. I think Texas is favored at -7.5. That won’t be a cakewalk and if anyone shouldn’t be overlooked is Iowa St in mid to late November

Oregon St (-2) vs Washington is the other one. If both “states” win it really doesn’t matter what happens after that. Win out and we’re in

 

[Slowpoke Catracho]

The problem with conference champions is the conferences aren't even remotely equal, and you'll end up with undeserving teams making the playoffs.

Evidently, this year we are undeserving.

 

[crimsonaudio]

chatting with a uga co-worker yesterday (super nice guy and great to talk football with) he mentioned that while he is glad they are getting to play us in the sec cg, facing jalen scares the crap out of him.

It should.

 

[mlh]

Unfortunately, I think UGA will beat us, Michigan will beat OSU, FSU and Washington will win out. That gives you 4 undefeated teams in the playoffs.

If that happens, I think UGA gets the three-peat.

 

[bvandegraff]

I’m not even sure total chaos would get two SEC teams in the playoff again. The rest of the country doesn’t want it.

The BCS computers giving 2 SEC teams a rematch in the title game is what led to the current system.....

 

[bvandegraff]

Oregon St (-2) vs Washington is the other one. If both “states” win it really doesn’t matter what happens after that. Win out and we’re in

Don't put it past PAC 12 officials to put their thumb on the scales for UW. Utah averages 38 penalty yds per game - against UW they racked up almost 100.....

 

[Cruloc]

I'm hoping we beat Georgia, but I'm doubting we do. Side note - I've been that way all year, so I'm staying that way so I don't jinx anything.

I think Oregon State takes down Washington this week. Washington will be out.

Ewers comes back for Texas, if I'm not mistaken, so I don't think they fall this week. I think the window for them to possibly get upset may have past, but I hope not.

I do think Oregon wins out and finishes 12-1, wins over Oregon State and Washington.

I think Michigan wins out and finishes 13-0.

I think Louisville beats FSU in the ACCCG, FSU out.

My head says:
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Oregon
4. Texas

If my head is right, Georgia gets the 3-peat we were so close to getting in 2013.

My heart says:
1. Michigan
2. Oregon
3. Texas
4. Bama

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

Ewers comes back for Texas, if I'm not mistaken, so I don't think they fall this week. I think the window for them to possibly get upset may have past, but I hope not.

He came back last week and they barley beat TCU. But I agree that it might be wishful thinking they lose this week

 

[Cruloc]

He came back last week and they barley beat TCU. But I agree that it might be wishful thinking they lose this week

See, I had no idea he came vs TCU, shows you what I know. Hopefully Iowa State has some magic at home and wins this one. If they did it would make things interesting for who gets to the Big 12 CG.

If Iowa State can win.....Texas would have lost to Oklahoma and Iowa State

Oklahoma State would have losses to Iowa State and UCF (I think Houston get them this week and knocks them out entirely)

KSU would have losses to Oklahoma State and Texas

Oklahoma would have losses to Oklahoma State and Kansas

Iowa State would have losses to Oklahoma and Kansas


Then they'd finish out next week with Iowa State at Kansas State....with maybe the scenario of, if Iowa State wins, they play Oklahoma in the title game. Oh boy that'd be fun to watch Texas not even make it to their title game.