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colbysullivan said:
How do you explain OSU and Oregon both being ahead of Bama? They both play easier schedules than Bama and both lost to the only truly good team they played. Bama has more ranked wins than both teams. That is the definition of disrespect. The context surrounding Bama’s loss is not being taken into account.
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OSU does not matter. Ignore it because if you beat Georgia you will jump us. It is Oregon that is wrong, IMO.
 
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B1GTide said:
How are you not getting proper credit? Aside from Oregon (that one is absurd), who else ahead of Alabama should be ranked lower than Alabama? The 4 undefeated teams? Texas?
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FSU and Washington neither have the SOS nor have they actually looked good enough against who they’ve played in order to overcome the one loss difference in the record between them and Alabama.
 
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Bama is being treated as a 2 loss team. Other teams are struggling but they’re given a pass. Washington has been on life support the entire season, but the committee treats them like the football equivalent of “stunning and brave”. It’s garbage.
 
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TideEngineer08 said:
FSU and Washington neither have the SOS nor have they actually looked good enough against who they’ve played in order to overcome the one loss difference in the record between them and Alabama.
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They are undefeated. When that doesn't matter anymore, I am done with the game.
 
Just looking at ESPN's FPI and Efficiencies data I would say right now at this moment we Top out at either #7 or #6.

We should probably be ranked above Oregon but the Pollsters and Commitee made their bed with the Pac-12 early and refuse to back off on it.

If there was any other team's name 1 spot above us other than Texas then you could bump us over them too and put us at #6.

I can't argue higher than that right now

You put 12-1 by us with a SEC Championship in tow and a win over #1/#2 UGA and I'm ready to make a case for #4.... provided either Wash or FSU or Texas chokes.
 
TideEngineer08 said:
But like last year K-State beat TCU and TCU didn’t suffer for that loss. Alabama goes on to obliterate K-State in the bowl game. Hindsight made clear what should have been obvious to anyone - TCU didn’t belong. But Alabama had two losses a year ago. This time around, we are 12-1 and SEC champions.
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Okay a few things here

1) TCU was a 12-1 P5 runner up vs Alabama 10-2 division runner up. This isn’t a 2016 Ohio St story in which everyone knew a bunch of wonkieness was at play to keep one of the 4 best teams out of the conference championship game. Alabama was beaten by 2 teams.

2) Why are we not mad at Michigan in this situation. They lost to TCU in a game that TCU pretty much controlled for most of the game. Why are we not making THAT argument.

3) post committee decisions have no bearing on pre and final committee decisions during a season. They just dont.
 
B1GTide said:
OSU does not matter. Ignore it because if you beat Georgia you will jump us. It is Oregon that is wrong, IMO.
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It DOES matter. Every single slot matters a ton. Keeping Bama at #8 after multiple ranked wins shows us all we need to know about this committee.

Also, you completely dodged my question because you know there’s no way to logically answer how OSU and Oregon are above Bama.
 
I think it’s significantly more likely that we lose the SECC than win it and miss the playoffs. Playing the game of hypotheticals is always fun, but the SEC champion has yet to miss the CFP and I’d be surprised if that changes this year.

The inconvenient truth is that we’re 5.5 pt dogs to Georgia and that’s likely to widen to 7+ by Dec. 2. I’d like to see more analysis on the SECC in terms of matchups. Perhaps someone senior can start a thread.
 
TideEngineer08 said:
The committee is supposed to ignore those though. Funny how they are almost always on track with the human polls.

That’s why the computers were involved with the BCS ranking but we had to get rid of that system.
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They don't ignore the polls. I have not watched the ranking show in a while, but I did watch the first one in 2014 and their spokesman talked about teams beating "ranked" teams. I remember thinking "what ranking?"
 
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B1GTide said:
OSU does not matter. Ignore it because if you beat Georgia you will jump us. It is Oregon that is wrong, IMO.
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The thing is if UGA beats Bama and Oregon beats UW I could see them allowing two PAC12 teams in. All because of this garbage narrative.

ETA- if Florida St loses
 
81usaf92 said:
Okay a few things here

1) TCU was a 12-1 P5 runner up vs Alabama 10-2 division runner up. This isn’t a 2016 Ohio St story in which everyone knew a bunch of wonkieness was at play to keep one of the 4 best teams out of the conference championship game. Alabama was beaten by 2 teams.

2) Why are we not mad at Michigan in this situation. They lost to TCU in a game that TCU pretty much controlled for most of the game. Why are we not making THAT argument.

3) post committee decisions have no bearing on pre and final committee decisions during a season. They just dont.
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I am not trying to put Alabama in the playoff with what I said. I’m simply saying TCU didn’t belong. They were a place holder.

I also didn’t say anything about Michigan, who also didn’t belong. They didn’t belong the prior season either.
 
colbysullivan said:
How do you explain OSU and Oregon both being ahead of Bama? They both play easier schedules than Bama and both lost to the only truly good team they played. Bama has more ranked wins than both teams. That is the definition of disrespect. The context surrounding Bama’s loss is not being taken into account.
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Not only that, but Bama's loss came in week 2/3 whereas OSU and Oregon's losses came in week 12/13. Presumably, a team that has developed through the intervening weeks and hasn't lost has the better resume. That team lost early. The others with one loss suffered theirs much later. You'd objectively choose the one whose streak is intact over others with streaks recently broken.
 
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DzynKingRTR said:
They don't ignore the polls. I have not watched the ranking show in a while, but I did watch the first one in 2014 and their spokesman talked about teams beating "ranked" teams. I remember thinking "what ranking?"
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Exactly. Anyone who thinks the committee isn’t influenced by the polls isn‘t paying attention.
 
colbysullivan said:
It DOES matter. Every single slot matters a ton. Keeping Bama at #8 after multiple ranked wins shows us all we need to know about this committee.
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I have no problem with this argument - that Alabama should be ranked 6th going into the conference championship games. But every team in the top 5 deserves to be ranked higher right now. You get a shot at taking out one. You need someone else to take out another.

I will only be upset if Oregon beats Washington and takes Alabama's slot.

Beat Georgia or none of this matters.
 
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