Bama/Texas matchups

[RTRinGA89]

Who has the advantage at what position?

QB: Texas:Gotta give it to Colt, guy's a saavy passer and can run too

RB: Bama: Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson...nuff said.

WR: Texas and the main reason is Jordan Shipley. But I feel like this is much closer than people think; Maze and Hanks are underrated and Julio...well is Julio.

OLINE: After the Nebraska game, gotta give it to Bama, crazy statistic but Texas is 81st in the nation at giving up sacks...

DLINE: Tie: I feel like both teams have big time stars on the line, us with Terrence Cody and Texas with Sergio Kindle. Texas leads in both categories of run stopping and pass rushing but I just don't trust that run stopping stats; the Big 12 is so pass heavy this year, no one runs the ball like the SEC and we have proven we have stopped the run.

LB: Bama hands down

SECONDARY: Bama is #7 in the nation, Texas at #23. Of course, one can spin that because Texas has seen so many pass heavy teams, the statistics are flawed.

ST: How can anyone argue with Javier?

Coaching: This one is a definite tie; both teams have great coordinators and head coaches.

 

[NYBamaFan]

I am looking forward to Jess' article, but I agree with most of your assessments. I would Give Bama an edge on the D-Line because of our depth. Also, you forgot TE. That will be a key position in this game, and they don't have one. We have Peek...

 

[longhrnfan]

Who has the advantage at what position?

QB: Texas:Gotta give it to Colt, guy's a saavy passer and can run too

RB: Bama: Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson...nuff said.

WR: Texas and the main reason is Jordan Shipley. But I feel like this is much closer than people think; Maze and Hanks are underrated and Julio...well is Julio.

OLINE: After the Nebraska game, gotta give it to Bama, crazy statistic but Texas is 81st in the nation at giving up sacks...

DLINE: Tie: I feel like both teams have big time stars on the line, us with Terrence Cody and Texas with Sergio Kindle. Texas leads in both categories of run stopping and pass rushing but I just don't trust that run stopping stats; the Big 12 is so pass heavy this year, no one runs the ball like the SEC and we have proven we have stopped the run.

LB: Bama hands down

SECONDARY: Bama is #7 in the nation, Texas at #23. Of course, one can spin that because Texas has seen so many pass heavy teams, the statistics are flawed.

ST: How can anyone argue with Javier?

Coaching: This one is a definite tie; both teams have great coordinators and head coaches.

I agree with this completely, except that you need to add shipley as a right on the heels of Javier. Shipley is a fantastic return guy for us.

 

[bamacon]

QB: Texas:Gotta give it to Colt, guy's a saavy passer and can run too

After looking up some stats I can't ignore the QB matchup being so lopsided.

1- Colt threw almost as many picks in the Big 12 Championship as McElroy had all year.

2-And I'll keep saying it until I get proven wrong on 1/7/10. Texas played in a joke of a conference and schedule when it comes to pass defense. The avg. ranking for Pass Defense of teams Tex. played was 77. SEVENTY-SEVEN! Bama's by the way was 45.

3- Anyone want to take a guess at how many top 10 Pass Defenses Texas played? tick tock tick tock

Zero! How about top 20 in PD? That's right...ZERO Again!

Tex. played two teams in the top 30 of Pass Defense and almost lost both. Less than 200 yards passing in Both.

vs. Oklahoma (22) 127 whole yds. passing
vs. Nebraska (25) 184 passing 18 yds rushing

4- Bama beat 2 teams in the top 10 in PD. FL (3), VT (6)
4 in a row that were in the top 20. UK (18), Miss (16), SC (12), Tenn. (10).
then two more in the top 30 Aub. (28), LSU (29).
That's 8-13 to 2-13.

Now people can say they are lop-sided all they want but if a team or league plays that aspect well then other teams will stop challengng it as much.

In Bama they will get to prove they can take on a top 10 Pass Defense and score effectively with their "high-powered passing attack." My only point is that it would be the first time this year they would have done so.

5-GMAC is no slouch at QB. Colt had 154 more attempts throwing than Greg. Keeping the compl. % the same this is how they could have looked at season's end.

Colt 330-468, 3512 yds, 27 tds, 12 ints. 7.5 yds/pass
Greg 286-468, 3183 yds, 22 tds, 5 ints. 7.8 yds/pass

**Given the level of pass defense that Greg sees compared to the two-hand touch that Colt sees I would say it is a much closer match-up than most will give it. Just a thought.

All that said. These stats mean squat. It's all about how teams match-up, how well they prepare, and then how well they execute. Games aren't one on paper they're won in the trenches.

 

[jps1983]

I'm looking forward to JessN's article too, but I agree with this assessment. UT does have Shipley as a returner and he is solid. To be perfectly honest, our weakness in coverage is still my biggest concern for the NC game.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

It's always good to remember that our OL and their OL won't be on the field at the same time, etc., etc., etc. Mythical matchups of those type really don't show much. Our OL vs. their DL and vice versa, show much more...

 

[cam4mav]

Give Shipley credit as a PR man, he is legit. KR is a threat to take it every time with Shipley and Goodwin.

LB: Advantage to you but do not under estimate Rodrick Muckleroy and Emanuel Acho. Muckleroy especially is very very very good.

Secondary: Texas hands down, sorry, yes they give up yards but teams do not score on us through the air besides the A&M game. The starting 4 and 5 are the most talented group in the country as a whole. They rival our 05 group that sent 5 players to the NFL all of whom have started. Stats do no tell the story, like you guys know, the passing games of SEC teams are nothing to get excited about, while the BIG XII teams can toss the rock when clicking. Its perception based to even think about using stats. Talent wise...Texas hands down.

WR depends on who's team has the backups show up to play and catch balls. Tx has potential to be crazy deep, but they just have to catch the ball. I agree its Tx by a very slim margin but that could grow to a canyon if we show up to play.

RB: you regardless of who we have back there, see below
OL: you, ours barely can tie there shoes sometimes
QB: Tx
TE: Default you, but we have a flex TE that could have a huge game on hot routes to take advantage of your blitzing. Dan Buckner is 6-4 225 and hands are usually great. If he shows up he could be a real matchup problem.

 

[cam4mav]

It's always good to remember that our OL and their OL won't be on the field at the same time, etc., etc., etc. Mythical matchups of those type really don't show much. Our OL vs. their DL and vice versa, show much more...

agree

Texas....Bama
OL...<...DL
DL...>...OL
RB...<...LB
LB...~..RB (just wait and see :wink
WR...>..DB
DB...>..WR

KR..>....KO
KO..<<..KR
PR..>..P
P..?..PR
FG..>..D
D..?..FG

 

[NYBamaFan]

agree

Texas....Bama
OL...<...DL
DL...>...OL
RB...<...LB
LB...~..RB (just wait and see :wink
WR...>..DB
DB...>..WR

KR..>....KO
KO..<<..KR
PR..>..P
P..?..PR
FG..>..D
D..?..FG

:rofl:

 

[GMacFan]

Who has the advantage at what position?

QB: Texas:Gotta give it to Colt, guy's a saavy passer and can run too

RB: Bama: Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson...nuff said.

WR: Texas and the main reason is Jordan Shipley. But I feel like this is much closer than people think; Maze and Hanks are underrated and Julio...well is Julio.

OLINE: After the Nebraska game, gotta give it to Bama, crazy statistic but Texas is 81st in the nation at giving up sacks...

DLINE: Tie: I feel like both teams have big time stars on the line, us with Terrence Cody and Texas with Sergio Kindle. Texas leads in both categories of run stopping and pass rushing but I just don't trust that run stopping stats; the Big 12 is so pass heavy this year, no one runs the ball like the SEC and we have proven we have stopped the run.

LB: Bama hands down

SECONDARY: Bama is #7 in the nation, Texas at #23. Of course, one can spin that because Texas has seen so many pass heavy teams, the statistics are flawed.

ST: How can anyone argue with Javier?

Coaching: This one is a definite tie; both teams have great coordinators and head coaches.

QB: I'd give it to Greg right now because he's confident and poised and, most importantly, will not have to over-exert himself. He won't have to take risks he's not comfortable with. He can play like Greg, and not superman. Colt, on the other hand, will have to have one of the best games of his career. He will have to do what Tebow did last year to us, which was his best fourth quarter performace ever IMO.

DE: Bama without a doubt because our O Line is hitting they're stride right now and will not be daunted or discouraged. On the other hand, Texas has an O Line that has played below expectations ALL YEAR. In fact, so has their whole team.

COACHING: Bama. Coach Brown expects something just because he coaches Texas. You could tell in his post game interview. I could be wrong, but he doesn't seem as concerned as he should be. I don't think he sees how much they need to mature and focus to play at our level. I think he's thinking, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Texas won there last NC because of superior talent and Vince Young, who I have still yet to see a better athlete than.

And btw, Colt is not Vince, he's not Tebow either. But he's definately not Vince.

 

[cam4mav]

:rofl:

please correct it

 

[NYBamaFan]

please correct it

We are miles apart. There is no way that you are going to understand until the game has been played...

 

[GMacFan]

It's always good to remember that our OL and their OL won't be on the field at the same time, etc., etc., etc. Mythical matchups of those type really don't show much. Our OL vs. their DL and vice versa, show much more...

Exactly, and who do you think has the advantage? Colt McCoy against Bama's D, or McElroy against Texas's D, considering also the rest of their offense? McElroy will not be forced to run and pass. Texas has not running game. McCoy will have to be the one to make the play EVERY DOWN. Against the number one defense. McElroy will be in that position about half the time against a good but not Bama-worthy defense.

McCoy is a much better and more dangerous passer. True. But consider the other factors. No run game to take the pressure off of him. Then pit our D line against their O line, who has delivered below expectations. Throw in a few picks in the middle of the field courtesy of our excellent linebackes and safeties, and you have a young Texan with a task unlike anything he's ever faced before ahead of him.

Then think of Greg, against a great secondary yes, but with time to throw and make good decisions behind the best O line in college football right now IMO, all the while knowing if he's unsuccessful that three particulary hasty running backs have got his back. He has to play naturally and not throw an INT. He knows that.

Don't forget that he just outperformed Colt against the probably the best secondary in the nation.

 

[TRich3]

After looking up some stats I can't ignore the QB matchup being so lopsided.

1- Colt threw almost as many picks in the Big 12 Championship as McElroy had all year.

2-And I'll keep saying it until I get proven wrong on 1/7/10. Texas played in a joke of a conference and schedule when it comes to pass defense. The avg. ranking for Pass Defense of teams Tex. played was 77. SEVENTY-SEVEN! Bama's by the way was 45.

3- Anyone want to take a guess at how many top 10 Pass Defenses Texas played? tick tock tick tock

Zero! How about top 20 in PD? That's right...ZERO Again!

Tex. played two teams in the top 30 of Pass Defense and almost lost both. Less than 200 yards passing in Both.

vs. Oklahoma (22) 127 whole yds. passing
vs. Nebraska (25) 184 passing 18 yds rushing

4- Bama beat 2 teams in the top 10 in PD. FL (3), VT (6)
4 in a row that were in the top 20. UK (18), Miss (16), SC (12), Tenn. (10).
then two more in the top 30 Aub. (28), LSU (29).
That's 8-13 to 2-13.

Now people can say they are lop-sided all they want but if a team or league plays that aspect well then other teams will stop challengng it as much.

In Bama they will get to prove they can take on a top 10 Pass Defense and score effectively with their "high-powered passing attack." My only point is that it would be the first time this year they would have done so.

5-GMAC is no slouch at QB. Colt had 154 more attempts throwing than Greg. Keeping the compl. % the same this is how they could have looked at season's end.

Colt 330-468, 3512 yds, 27 tds, 12 ints. 7.5 yds/pass
Greg 286-468, 3183 yds, 22 tds, 5 ints. 7.8 yds/pass

**Given the level of pass defense that Greg sees compared to the two-hand touch that Colt sees I would say it is a much closer match-up than most will give it. Just a thought.

All that said. These stats mean squat. It's all about how teams match-up, how well they prepare, and then how well they execute. Games aren't one on paper they're won in the trenches.

Colt is much more mobile than Greg. But I agree with everything else. Big 12 defense stinks and the only reason his comp. % is so high is because of all the short passes they throw.

 

[jps1983]

agree

Texas....Bama
OL...<...DL
DL...>...OL
RB...<...LB
LB...~..RB (just wait and see :wink
WR...>..DB
DB...>..WR

KR..>....KO
KO..<<..KR
PR..>..P
P..?..PR
FG..>..D
D..?..FG

I lol'ed at this, especially the bold. I agree with NYBamafan in that we'll have to wait for the game to be played b/c someone has some seriously tinted glasses.

 

[dave12]

Who has the advantage at what position?

QB: Texas:Gotta give it to Colt, guy's a saavy passer and can run too

RB: Bama: Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson...nuff said.

WR: Texas and the main reason is Jordan Shipley. But I feel like this is much closer than people think; Maze and Hanks are underrated and Julio...well is Julio.

OLINE: After the Nebraska game, gotta give it to Bama, crazy statistic but Texas is 81st in the nation at giving up sacks...

DLINE: Tie: I feel like both teams have big time stars on the line, us with Terrence Cody and Texas with Sergio Kindle. Texas leads in both categories of run stopping and pass rushing but I just don't trust that run stopping stats; the Big 12 is so pass heavy this year, no one runs the ball like the SEC and we have proven we have stopped the run.

LB: Bama hands down

SECONDARY: Bama is #7 in the nation, Texas at #23. Of course, one can spin that because Texas has seen so many pass heavy teams, the statistics are flawed.

ST: How can anyone argue with Javier?

Coaching: This one is a definite tie; both teams have great coordinators and head coaches.

I will agree with most of that, but Head Coach, there's no comparison, CNS hands down.

 

[cam4mav]

Oh c'mon don't take the easy way out. Thats weak.
and the ? means I don't know about your side of the ball, so not sure how thats laughable...

 

[atxhornfan]

After looking up some stats I can't ignore the QB matchup being so lopsided.

1- Colt threw almost as many picks in the Big 12 Championship as McElroy had all year.

2-And I'll keep saying it until I get proven wrong on 1/7/10. Texas played in a joke of a conference and schedule when it comes to pass defense. The avg. ranking for Pass Defense of teams Tex. played was 77. SEVENTY-SEVEN! Bama's by the way was 45.

3- Anyone want to take a guess at how many top 10 Pass Defenses Texas played? tick tock tick tock

Zero! How about top 20 in PD? That's right...ZERO Again!

Tex. played two teams in the top 30 of Pass Defense and almost lost both. Less than 200 yards passing in Both.

vs. Oklahoma (22) 127 whole yds. passing
vs. Nebraska (25) 184 passing 18 yds rushing

4- Bama beat 2 teams in the top 10 in PD. FL (3), VT (6)
4 in a row that were in the top 20. UK (18), Miss (16), SC (12), Tenn. (10).
then two more in the top 30 Aub. (28), LSU (29).
That's 8-13 to 2-13.

Now people can say they are lop-sided all they want but if a team or league plays that aspect well then other teams will stop challengng it as much.

In Bama they will get to prove they can take on a top 10 Pass Defense and score effectively with their "high-powered passing attack." My only point is that it would be the first time this year they would have done so.

5-GMAC is no slouch at QB. Colt had 154 more attempts throwing than Greg. Keeping the compl. % the same this is how they could have looked at season's end.

Colt 330-468, 3512 yds, 27 tds, 12 ints. 7.5 yds/pass
Greg 286-468, 3183 yds, 22 tds, 5 ints. 7.8 yds/pass

**Given the level of pass defense that Greg sees compared to the two-hand touch that Colt sees I would say it is a much closer match-up than most will give it. Just a thought.

All that said. These stats mean squat. It's all about how teams match-up, how well they prepare, and then how well they execute. Games aren't one on paper they're won in the trenches.

Thank goodness you redeemed yourself at the end with "stats dont mean squat". Look at last years bowl game for both teams. Stats didnt matter in those did they?

Games are won in the trenches, and ya'll have the edge there. We have a bunch of whipper snappers that can fly all over the field. If we can get the ball to them, on the move, we have a chance. If not, well, it wont be pretty. Thank goodness Colt is so accurate. Way more accurate than Gmac, but he has had longer to perfect his craft. Gmac is in his first year starting and he has the benefit of turning around and seeing Ingram back there. No matter how good a pass defense is, when you consistently run the ball, your receivers tend to be more open. Corners and safeties sneak up eventually. So that skews the stats a little, and Gmac has benefitted from this. He's good, so we'll see. Should be fun. I also hope for no injuries on either side, before or during the game.

 

[Jessica4Bama]

Thank goodness you redeemed yourself at the end with "stats dont mean squat". Look at last years bowl game for both teams. Stats didnt matter in those did they?

Games are won in the trenches, and ya'll have the edge there. We have a bunch of whipper snappers that can fly all over the field. If we can get the ball to them, on the move, we have a chance. If not, well, it wont be pretty. Thank goodness Colt is so accurate. Way more accurate than Gmac, but he has had longer to perfect his craft. Gmac is in his first year starting and he has the benefit of turning around and seeing Ingram back there. No matter how good a pass defense is, when you consistently run the ball, your receivers tend to be more open. Corners and safeties sneak up eventually. So that skews the stats a little, and Gmac has benefitted from this. He's good, so we'll see. Should be fun. I also hope for no injuries on either side, before or during the game.

And no stupid arrests either! Which I don't think that will happen b/c the players know what's at stake.

 

[atxhornfan]

And no stupid arrests either! Which I don't think that will happen b/c the players know what's at stake.

Word.