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Your entire viewpoint is ignoring NIL.

In 2026, LSU isn't a better job than OM. Especially if OM wins a NC in 2025.

But keep holding on to historic norms. CFB has been ruined by the money, and that means things have changed.

I mentioned NIL. You're ignoring the fact of WHO made OM what it is in 2025.

LSU is a better job overall, and I really can't believe you guys are saying that to try to justify your opinion, and the reason nobody can answer my question: What could he have done differently?

Again, Saban and Carroll know it's the better job, even today.

But let's pretend LSU is not a better job, it really doesn't matter, how could Kiffin have handled it any better?

It was a no win for him because of his past sins. Plain and simple.
 
I'd argue that in 2025-2026 LSU might not be the better job it obviously was just a few years ago.

Time will well, but LSU isn't exactly riddled with cash...

The overall resources and committed fan base makes me still lean LSU is still a tier above ole Miss. but I will happily agree to disagree because you do have valid points.


For Lane Ole Miss is clearly a better job because they are a program far more willing to put up with his nonsense and pump enough money to fund his offense. There are lower expectations and less people pulling the strings. LSU will demand championship quickly. If he doesn’t provide it they will throw him in a swump.
 
The overall resources and committed fan base makes me still lean LSU is still a tier above ole Miss. but I will happily agree to disagree because you do have valid points.


For Lane Ole Miss is clearly a better job because they are a program far more willing to put up with his nonsense and pump enough money to fund his offense.

And who built the current Ole Miss program?
 
Well Hugh built a version similar to Lane… what is the difference between Auburn and Ole Miss? Expectations and people outside the program wanting control.

Not much difference in those two programs overall. Some might say the barn is a slight step up. It's laughable to try to make an entire argument suggesting OM is on the same level with LSU.

The points being made are counterintuitive.

Kiffin has taken OM to heights never seen before. He is the one responsible for recent success, which has no bearing on the better program overall.

The ones saying that, can't answer my question of how Kiffin could have handled it any better.

So the conversation as been deflected. Saban obviously see's it as a no-brainer as do 99.9% of people who can get past the Kiffin hate and think clearly.

I just don't know why he would recommend LSU to Kiffin, but a few years ago be the absolute #1 reason Bama never considered Kiffin and many on here say will never.

That part absolutely makes no sense.
 
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Lane is burning the bridge, but Ole Miss is thinking small and looking small time by handling it this way too. Let the guy coach, try to have as good a season as you can. Possibly the best season of your history, and keep some good will with your players, fans and appear as a confident program that supports it's coaches and look more desirable to a new coach.

It's already appearing to many that they clearly didn't choose to put up the money for players, which is dumb.

On the other hand. Lane has destroyed his rebuilt reputation with his pettiness. I also truly believe he could've messed up a good thing he currently has going in Ole Miss and he may not be able to get it going in LSU, as Brian Kelly couldn't after being a top 5 coach with better resume than lane Kiffin

I'm just more focused on Ole Miss, because I actually think they have more to lose. Lane already has what he wants.


After seeing that Ole Miss has made Pete their permanent head coach. I changed my stance. Ole Miss has done the right thing in terms of promote the current head coach in the college football playoffs and promote stability.
 
After seeing that Ole Miss has made Pete their permanent head coach. I changed my stance. Ole Miss has done the right thing in terms of promote the current head coach in the college football playoffs and promote stability.

Ole miss will go back to their rightful place in the pecking order. Maybe sooner, maybe later. Golding will need to hire a competent OC for sure, and be able to recruit at a fraction of the level that Kiffin as been able to.
 
Not much difference in those two programs overall. Some might say the barn is a slight step up. It's laughable to try to make an entire argument suggesting OM is on the same level with LSU.

The points being made are counterintuitive.

Kiffin has taken OM to heights never seen before. He is the one responsible for recent success, which has no bearing on the better program overall.

The ones saying that, can't answer my question of how Kiffin could have handled it any better.

So the conversation as been deflected. Saban obviously see's it as a no-brainer as do 99.9% of people who can get past the Kiffin hate and think clearly.

I just don't know why he would recommend LSU to Kiffin, but a few years ago be the absolute #1 reason Bama never considered Kiffin and many on here say will never.

That part absolutely makes no sense.

The point is that Ole Miss has never cared about football. They generally care about hardball and the grove. Aside from that a bowl game and beating State are as far as their expectations go.

Auburn and LSU have alot of powerful people with their hands in the football program, and Lane has a habit of making people he shouldn’t make angry absolutely hate him. At Ole Miss he really didn’t have to watch who he made angry aside from a select few. At LSU… as guys like Ogreron and Kelly found out, make the wrong one angry and they will revolt against you.



I’m not going to argue all night and all week about Kiffin with you. You clearly think he is a homerun hire, I remain unconvinced. Let’s leave at that and move on
 
The point is that Ole Miss has never cared about football. They generally care about hardball and the grove. Aside from that a bowl game and beating State are as far as their expectations go.

Auburn and LSU have alot of powerful people with their hands in the football program, and Lane has a habit of making people he shouldn’t make angry absolutely hate him. At Ole Miss he really didn’t have to watch who he made angry aside from a select few. At LSU… as guys like Ogreron and Kelly found out, make the wrong one angry and they will revolt against you.



I’m not going to argue all night and all week about Kiffin with you. You clearly think he is a homerun hire, I remain unconvinced. Let’s leave at that and move on

Well I think it's a good hire, and he was my choice at Bama to replace Saban.

That's kind of beside the point. I mean it's nothing but a Kiffin bash thread but it's not based upon much substance. Nobody is saying HOW he could have handled it any better, just that he should have handled it better.

I do think it's absolute non-sense to suggest OM is the same as LSU from an overall program standpoint.

But yeah, whatever.
 
The sinister side if me wonders if Saban advised Kiffin to take the LSU job knowing full well how he would handle it. And then recommending that CPG get the OM HC job. We all know that Saban liked CPG and I suspect right now that Saban is providing every resource to CPG to help him get off to a good start. He has done this for many of his coaches in the past.

A good bit of what has transpired the last few hours has actually been in the works for a few years. Favors are being cashed in all-around to be sure. Sexton is the agent for CNS, CLK, and CPG. And I dont think Sexton is the one playing chess here...
 
The sinister side if me wonders if Saban advised Kiffin to take the LSU job knowing full well how he would handle it. And then recommending that CPG get the OM HC job. We all know that Saban liked CPG and I suspect right now that Saban is providing every resource to CPG to help him get off to a good start. He has done this for many of his coaches in the past. That's how CPG ended up as DC at OM with CLK. CLK was told who to hire for DC at OM.

A good bit of what has transpired the last few hours has actually been in the works for a few years. Favors are being cashed in all-around to be sure. Sexton is the agent for CNS, CLK, and CPG. But I dont think Sexton is the one playing chess here...
 
Nobody is saying HOW he could have handled it any better, just that he should have handled it better.

I’m going to do this ONE last time because a lot of people have said it for weeks now.

1) Don’t act like a complete donkey when you are told “you no longer work here, good luck on your future endeavors, and bye”. The second he accepted the LSU job there was zero chance he would ever be able to coach the next game. No sensible and respectable organization would ever allow a rival coach to coach potentially another month and the better part of two signing windows.

He should have just left, said thank you, and good luck. But lane had to extend the confrontation another 24 hours over it, and then threaten the Ole Miss staff about future opportunities. Seriously as we are speaking Ole Miss is having to promote analysts to on field positions because of that stunt.

2) He could’ve not trolled Ole Miss with his son wearing LSU swag during games once speculation. He then decided to use his dog’s twitter account to post crap that implied he was staying. He should’ve gone dark in this regard because you get hope and expectations up amongst fans and admins. This was the same crap he pulled when leaving Tennessee.

3) He put a deadline and slow played the hell out of it. It’s bad enough that it’s on the same day as “the game” and the iron bowl but are you seriously going to tell me that his mind wasn’t made up at 4 pm yesterday? What it amounted to was that Lane wanted this to be all about him and you had Marty Smith there all day with the caption “lane kiffin decision imminent”. This decision was made by Friday and Saturday was all about Lane soaking up a whole day of news that took away from rivalry Saturday. Had he announced earlier in the day then it wouldn’t have been as bad but he let this drag until Sunday morning and by then everyone knew his decision before any announcement.

More or less he should’ve not let this become a damn circus of his own making and thought more about the kids and fans involved. Because now whatever goodwill and “turn around” story is over. Everyone in the country now sees him like Al Davis saw him and now sees him like he was when he arrived at USC in 2010.

No one blames him for taking the job. They might disagree on the decision but taking the lsu job over ole Miss is understandable. How he did it is an entirely different matter.

I’m done explaining it. If you disagree then fine
 
Well I think it's a good hire, and he was my choice at Bama to replace Saban.

That's kind of beside the point. I mean it's nothing but a Kiffin bash thread but it's not based upon much substance. Nobody is saying HOW he could have handled it any better, just that he should have handled it better.

I do think it's absolute non-sense to suggest OM is the same as LSU from an overall program standpoint.

But yeah, whatever.
I tell you how he could have handled it better. He could have laid off Twitter and not turn his courtship into a reality TV show like the Bachelor. Then once you tell someone your leaving asking if you can still keep the keys to the house to shower, shave, until you get settled with the new GF.

In the professional world, you dont get to workout a notice and hang around to collect your bonus if you go work for a competitor.
 
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