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How do you guarantee LSU would have waited? We don’t know that.

Even if that’s the case, it puts him severely behind with the current setup.
What bamabuzzard said.

And I will add that LSU is the top job available. They are the one program that could afford to wait out a couple of weeks. If say a program like Oklahoma or Texas became available, I could understand the urgency but there is not a program like that available. LSU is an impatient perk.
 
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I was perusing their message boards out of sheer curiosity. Their fans were all-in on making a run at DeBoer if we lost the Iron Bowl, but they seemed to have moved on. A lot of them wanted Chesney from JMU but it looks like UCLA has hired him. There’s a prominent poster on Black Shoe Diaries who claims to be “in the know” who says they are talking with someone that would be an absolute home run and compared it to Lincoln Riley leaving OU for USC. This was inferred to be Marcus Freeman - which I’d be shocked by. There’s also talk of them making a run at Heupel, which would be …..interesting?

Who knows. A lot of folks think they’ve swung and missed and will end up promoting the interim guy.
So in other words they have no clue haha
 
1) "I will remain at Ole Miss."
2) "I have spoken with the PTB at Ole Miss, and we have agreed it is for the best that I resign immediately in pursuit of the LSU job. I wish Ole Miss the best in the playoffs."

I reiterate: this guy has all of the worst qualities of the Alabama coaches who haven't won national championships: Perkins arrogance, Bill Curry fleeing what you've built, Franchione running away from a challenge, Mike Price chasing skirts, even Mike Shula's boneheaded coaching decisions on the field.

He's Bobby Petrino with enough sense to stay off a motorcycle.
But he didnt have enough sense to do much than Petrino while at Bama...
 
1) "I will remain at Ole Miss."
2) "I have spoken with the PTB at Ole Miss, and we have agreed it is for the best that I resign immediately in pursuit of the LSU job. I wish Ole Miss the best in the playoffs."

I reiterate: this guy has all of the worst qualities of the Alabama coaches who haven't won national championships: Perkins arrogance, Bill Curry fleeing what you've built, Franchione running away from a challenge, Mike Price chasing skirts, even Mike Shula's boneheaded coaching decisions on the field.

He's Bobby Petrino with enough sense to stay off a motorcycle.

If he had done your 2nd point, the Kiffin hate/outrage would still be just as bad for “quitting on his team”….

Even tho upgrading jobs, there was no other way to handle it.

Unless like it was suggested he tell LSU to wait and I don’t think that’s really a legit option from the current setup, the Ole Miss ultimatum, and potentially LSU telling him they won’t wait.
 
Because Kiffin was their #1 guy, not their 3rd or 4th. There was NO ONE on the open market worth not waiting on Kiffin. A lot of the working mechanics of the contract could have already been worked out through Kiffin's agent and LSU without Kiffin and his family making an overly public visit to Baton Rouge.

Regarding him being "severely behind"? How? He would have the ability to get any of the players who jumped in the portal from Ole Miss after he left and trust me, a lot of them would have followed him to LSU. Lane isn't the victim in this. He and Jimmy Sexton are the ones who laid the foundation for it to turn into this.

I’m not saying he’s the victim. I’m sure there are SOME things he could have handled better…

But comparing this to some of his shenanigans early in his coaching career I don’t see.

With the current setup of college football, I don’t see a whole lot he could have done differently this time.

I give you guys credit for offering a few ideas up though.

I just don’t think this is a fRan move. It’s a clear upgrade program wise, and long-term wise.

I hate LSU tho, so I hope he was a better fit at Ole Miss with the less resources, but less pressure.

I hope he crumbles at LSU with the more resources, but a thousand times more pressure.

We’ll see how it works out obviously.
 
Well I think it's a good hire, and he was my choice at Bama to replace Saban.

That's kind of beside the point. I mean it's nothing but a Kiffin bash thread but it's not based upon much substance. Nobody is saying HOW he could have handled it any better, just that he should have handled it better.

I do think it's absolute non-sense to suggest OM is the same as LSU from an overall program standpoint.

But yeah, whatever.
Hello Joey Freshwater. Say Hi to Lane for me.
 
If he had done your 2nd point, the Kiffin hate/outrage would still be just as bad for “quitting on his team”….

Even tho upgrading jobs, there was no other way to handle it.

Unless like it was suggested he tell LSU to wait and I don’t think that’s really a legit option from the current setup, the Ole Miss ultimatum, and potentially LSU telling him they won’t wait.

He did quit on his team. In the middle of a natonal championship run.

The only poeple arguing otherwise are LSU fans, Ole Miss haters, and Jimmy Sexton's office.
 
I think recruiting will ultimately solve this problem but right now we're just asking some players to play within a system that isn't a good fit for their talent.
My concern is if that's good for facing SEC competition consistently. The talent Alabama had was basically built along the lines of what Georgia, Texas, and Ole Miss did in emulating it. It wasn't an especially complicated recipe,get guys that can enable you to physically dominate. Michigan was able to physically dominate Washington for example, with a similar recipe.

I know the counter is that Alabama wasn't doing that as well the past few seasons, but we're still talking about only 4 regular season losses in 3 seasons and two playoff appearances. Still top level and as I alluded to earlier, the cupboard wasn't exactly bare. If that isn't what DeBoer wants, I'm a bit wary of what he does want. If Justice Haynes doesn't fit your system, I'm not sure I trust your system.

So honestly, I'm pretty scared what DeBoer's system needs to operate, because I'm not sure how compatible that is with consistent SEC success. You know I'm not a big fan of this relying on the QB thing, I think it's putting a lot of strain in Ty, but there is no ingredient to DeBoer's system that does anything else. If anything he's going to move further in that direction, not away from it. So, what happens when this team starts to look more like Washington (who for the record was pretty loaded that last season, a couple dozen 5 and 6th year seniors, 10 NFL draft picks, etc...) only playing a brutal SEC slate?
 
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I understand all the arguments against Kiffin coaching Ole Miss in the playoffs, but is it cutting off your nose to spite your face, in a sense? No one knows the personnel and offense better than Kiffin. By not allowing him to coach, you are pretty much guaranteeing you won't host a playoff game.

And what coach gives that team the best chance to win? Does anyone really believe it's Pete Golding?
 
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I understand all the arguments against Kiffin coaching Ole Miss in the playoffs, but is it cutting off your nose to spite your face, in a sense? No one knows the personnel and offense better than Kiffin. By not allowing him to coach, you are pretty much guaranteeing you won't host a playoff game.

And what coach gives that team the best chance to win? Does anyone really believe it's Pete Golding?

Kiffin would be a major distraction. As a player would you play for coach who is already out the door?
 
Dude I live and breathe Bama.

Nah, he upgraded jobs by a thousand light years. Kiffin made Ole Miss relevant again with far less resources.
It's a job he could have gotten in the off-season. As I said earlier LSU would have waited.He was their #1, 2, and 3 choice.

My issue wasn't him taking the LSU job, though I could argue Ole Miss is a better job than LSU right now, my issue will always be the timing.

Kiffin and LSU are wrong.
 
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I heard something on Andy and Ari (I know, ari bothers me too) this morning that made a lot of sense for Kentucky- hartline the wr for Ohio st. The Ohio valley is their recruiting area and he knows it well
 
Yes it is quitting on his team. The job would be available in the off-season. All Kiffin has to do was communicate with LSU through his agent that he was interested in the job and they would talk in the off-season. I guarantee you, LSU would have waited. LSU is a punk for pursing a coach during a playoff run, and Kiffin is a punk for allowing to happen in the first place. If you can not see it, then I do not know what else to say.

As for Saban, he is not infalliable to giving bad advice. I do believe Saban gave bad advice. It happens.
We don't know exactly what Saban said. He may have simply told Kiffin it would be a good move. He may not have said, "Go now!"
 
My concern is if that's good for facing SEC competition consistently. The talent Alabama had was basically built along the lines of what Georgia, Texas, and Ole Miss did in emulating it. It wasn't an especially complicated recipe,get guys that can enable you to physically dominate. Michigan was able to physically dominate Washington for example, with a similar recipe.

I know the counter is that Alabama wasn't doing that as well the past few seasons, but we're still talking about only 4 regular season losses in 3 seasons and two playoff appearances. Still top level and as I alluded to earlier, the cupboard wasn't exactly bare. If that isn't what DeBoer wants, I'm a bit wary of what he does want. If Justice Haynes doesn't fit your system, I'm not sure I trust your system.

So honestly, I'm pretty scared what DeBoer's system needs to operate, because I'm not sure how compatible that is with consistent SEC success. You know I'm not a big fan of this relying on the QB thing, I think it's putting a lot of strain in Ty, but there is no ingredient to DeBoer's system that does anything else. If anything he's going to move further in that direction, not away from it. So, what happens when this team starts to look more like Washington (who for the record was pretty loaded that last season, a couple dozen 5 and 6th year seniors, 10 NFL draft picks, etc...) only playing a brutal SEC slate?
Every system out there needs a competent quarterback. The running game sucks right now, for a variety of reasons. He’s only leaning on Ty so much out of necessity.
 

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