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bamaga said:
I had First Take on in the background. The panelists were Jeff Saturday, I believe Louis Riddick , and Mad Dog Russo. RUSSO raked Bama fans over the coals with his rant about how Bama fans treat Kalen DeBoer. Jeff Saturday piled on . And it struck me that we are judged by 15-20% of our fanbases actions. Painted with a broad brush with The lunatic fringe if you will. And that Idiot Finebaum fans the flames of discontent. Add to that, after the FSU loss, many of the national sports media were leading the charge to can CKD . It’s a little tiresome hearing this all the time.

On an unrelated note, Jeff Saturday’s daughter attends U of A, and Saturday attends Bama games View attachment 54862
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I don't think Saturday is at his playing weight anymore.
 
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BamaMoon said:
I contend that 15-20% fringe are the ones saying "CKD is the next Mike Shula" or "Ray Perkins." Such an uninformed take on reality. They are probably much more "casual" and the only time they invest in Bama football is on Saturday during the football season. IOWs, they are the lifetime sidewalk fringe who think all of our coaches not named Bear or Saban should be fired. Thing is, if you asked them who the next Bear or Saban is they probably would say somebody like Jon Gruden.
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Russo redeemed himself, going on a rant about ND fans tweeting after OU went up 17-0. Basically saying the committee got it right, including the other team that jumped them, Miami , winning as well
 
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bamaga said:
From MGoBlog, This guy gets it, kudos to him👏


Deboer still seemed like a long shot even if they lost.

People don't wanna hear this but Alabama is absolutely a better job than Michigan and even if you wanna be delusional it was a lateral move. That's not what guys like Deboer do.

Michigan has resources and a big brand but we have not actually been an elite program on the field. In the modern era we are a 9-3 team that beats OSU 40% of the time and competes for national titles once a generation.

So no we are not the destination job we think we are. Would Harbaugh have really come if he was not an alum? But we are a really good job and if all we get is someone who can consistently recruit well and win 9-10 games and beat OSU half the time that is a massive coaching win over what we have been historically.

The 2021 - 2023 run was NOT the standard. It was an outlier. And to think that is who we are and should be is just delusional.

And as many have already said almost anyone else out there is gonna be an upgrade over Moore. So no, it doesn't look like we're gonna get our top 3-4 choices but Pete Carroll wasn't a high choice for USC either and that seemed to work out.
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I bet they roasted this fellow for telling the truth.
 
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bamaga said:
I had First Take on in the background. The panelists were Jeff Saturday, I believe Louis Riddick , and Mad Dog Russo. RUSSO raked Bama fans over the coals with his rant about how Bama fans treat Kalen DeBoer. Jeff Saturday piled on . And it struck me that we are judged by 15-20% of our fanbases actions. Painted with a broad brush with The lunatic fringe if you will. And that Idiot Finebaum fans the flames of discontent. Add to that, after the FSU loss, many of the national sports media were leading the charge to can CKD . It’s a little tiresome hearing this all the time.

On an unrelated note, Jeff Saturday’s daughter attends U of A, and Saturday attends Bama games View attachment 54862
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The thing I respect Jeff Saturday for the most is probably his lifestyle change after leaving the NFL. The guy played at between 290-300 lbs. He came right out and said staying at that weight into retirement was just plain “unhealthy” and he made the decision get down to a healthy weight. The guy shed about 60+ pounds and is down to about 220-230 lbs now.

I wish more NFL players would follow that example.
 
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AlexanderFan said:
None of those guys stay at their weight after retiring.

It’s just not natural.
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On average greater than 50% of retired NFL players are as heavy or heavier than they were in their playing days. Couple it with chronic pain from years of injuries, it can significantly reduce quality of life and life expectancy.
It is particularly true for retired NFL lineman.
 
bamaga said:
From MGoBlog, This guy gets it, kudos to him👏


Deboer still seemed like a long shot even if they lost.

People don't wanna hear this but Alabama is absolutely a better job than Michigan and even if you wanna be delusional it was a lateral move. That's not what guys like Deboer do.

Michigan has resources and a big brand but we have not actually been an elite program on the field. In the modern era we are a 9-3 team that beats OSU 40% of the time and competes for national titles once a generation.

So no we are not the destination job we think we are. Would Harbaugh have really come if he was not an alum? But we are a really good job and if all we get is someone who can consistently recruit well and win 9-10 games and beat OSU half the time that is a massive coaching win over what we have been historically.

The 2021 - 2023 run was NOT the standard. It was an outlier. And to think that is who we are and should be is just delusional.

And as many have already said almost anyone else out there is gonna be an upgrade over Moore. So no, it doesn't look like we're gonna get our top 3-4 choices but Pete Carroll wasn't a high choice for USC either and that seemed to work out.
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So you are a Meeshigun guy? 🤔
 
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smith5753 said:
Maybe Pittman isn’t the best fit for DeBore’s scheme, but he’s a dang impressive offensive line coach that understands the SEC and I think would be a huge addition to this staff. He and Debore could figure out how to merge their philosophies
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I see this going one of two ways.

Perhaps we have yet to see DeBoer's true system, he hasn't been at any FBS stop too long, despite the transfer portal and 26 5th and 6th year players at Washington, he might just never have put his true staff and team together. I tend to think not because of the portal and him seeming to be able to get almost everyone he wanted on staff at Alabama. But, it is still possible he just hasn't been able to place the keystone yet, the thing that makes it all work together on offense.

In that case, I'm curious to see who else he brings in and what changes he makes to facilitate that.

The other, is kind of as you alluded to and I would add wouldn't be unlike what Saban must have had in mind when he tried to hire Grubb. He wasn't going to just run DeBoer/Grubb's scheme. He was as he did with all the other OC's going to adapt it to Alabama and the SEC. That's what I'm kind of what I'm hoping for, that fusion of SEC style physicality and his west coast offense.

On another thing though that makes this difficult, is being in the playoff makes dealing with staff and roster issues really hard. If Alabama lost, they'd already be eyeing the portal and the staff changes, but as it is they are very much in a "don't rock the boat" type situation Saban got stuck in as well.

Saban had to make choices that sometimes were not the best long-term, because he was focused on competing for championships. So it's easy to say oh DeBoer should do this with his staff, or what have you, but what I think we all want the most is for Alabama to compete for a championship, and they have a shot this year to do that so the rest might just have to wait.
 
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