Link: Erin Andrews "Opens" Up to Oprah About Nude Video

[rhYno]

Erin Andrews opens up to Oprah about nude peeping tom video

Is she a drama queen, or is she really this emotionally torn over this incident? The way she flaunts herself I'm not surprised that she has yet to pose for Play Boy.

I highly doubt most emotionally scarred "victims" would open up to the public about this type of incident. In fact who enjoys talking to the public about things of this matter when it happens to them (see another sideline reporter who is also Tommy Bowden's daughter)?

I'd say she's more angry over someone invading her privacy than upset about having someone record her nude via camcorder without her consent because I'm sure it's not the first nude video made of her.

Maybe I feel this way because I'm one of the few who never liked her (simply because I see her for what she's worth). But it's just a gut feeling I have...

 

[Relayer]

I don't see it the way you do at all. I feel sorry for her. She did nothing to deserve what happened to her. I like naked beautiful women as much as the next guy, but whoever videod her deserves a public flogging. How would you feel if this happened to your daughter (if you don't have one, try to imagine that you do).

I have never seen Andrews act in any inappropriate way, never make any kind of news out partying, getting drunk in public, flaunting herself, etc. Did I just miss it?

 

[It's On A Slab]

I don't see it the way you do at all. I feel sorry for her. She did nothing to deserve what happened to her. I like naked beautiful women as much as the next guy, but whoever videod her deserves a public flogging. How would you feel if this happened to your daughter (if you don't have one, try to imagine that you do).

I have never seen Andrews act in any inappropriate way, never make any kind of news out partying, getting drunk in public, flaunting herself, etc. Did I just miss it?

Agreed. She is a public figure, and a very beautiful woman. She can't expect anonymity, and probably feels like she lives in a fish bowl sometimes. But if the circumstances of this video are what they are, she has every reason to feel wronged. Wasn't the video filmed through a doorway or a window? Doesn't that make the videographer a peeping tom?

 

[GPSnakeHandler]

I'll need to see the actual video to form an opinion. :biggrin:

 

[RedStar]

I do have sympathy for her, and I hate that it happened to her. I'm guessing what makes rhYno feel the way he does is probably the 911 phone call she made shortly thereafter.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTiuz8l0Bis]YouTube - Erin Andrews Complains of Paparazzi in 911 Call[/ame]

She does sound a little full of herself by comparing herself to Brittany Spears. But I've never been in that situation, so I can't say what I'd do, or how I'd react. But I know she lost a lot of sympathy with a lot of people after the 911 tape came out.

 

[thetideinmd]

i didn't watch much this year but did espn pull her off the little league world series? the little i watched i didn't see her.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

No one has the "right" to do to her what she had done to her. But along those same lines (and I'm speaking in general now not specifically about this case) it amazes me how many women dress in a manner that do nothing more than tug at the natural desires/appetites of the opposite sex and then are shocked when they get attention from everyone from every level of the barrel all the way down to the bottom of the barrel.

Sure, in a perfect world Erin Andrews or any woman should be able to wear whatever she wants and it be as "skimpy" as she wants without the threat of something like this happening. But this ain't a perfect world and you have to live your everyday life based on that reality not "what it should be". When it comes to "life lessons" I normally don't turn to Dave Chappelle for advice. But in one of his standup comedy acts he addressed this very issue. He basically said "You will be treated in the manner as you dress." I'm not sure if this incident in particular was originated with some freak getting his jollies from how "sexy" she dressed or not. But I can dang sure tell you that most woman that dress "provocatively" and wear things that reveal just about everything except the "kitchen sink" are more prone to things like this happening than those that don't.

Again, I feel sorry for Erin Andrews and she should never be subject to something like this, no matter how she dresses. But this isn't a perfect world and that has to be considered in every facet of life. I don't walk down the street with cash money sticking out the back pocket of my blue jeans flapping in the wind. This isn't a perfect world and it's filled with imperfect people that will do sick things.

 

[Rafiki]

Under the hate crimes legislation, if she said anything to hurt the perps feelings then she has committed a felony. The perp is guilty of a misdemeanor.

 

[Pluck and Grit]

No one has the "right" to do to her what she had done to her. But along those same lines (and I'm speaking in general now not specifically about this case) it amazes me how many women dress in a manner that do nothing more than tug at the natural desires/appetites of the opposite sex and then are shocked when they get attention from everyone from every level of the barrel all the way down to the bottom of the barrel.

The way Erin dresses is downright schoolmarmish compared with the way these women dress down here in south Florida.

I didn't hear anything so bizarre on the 911 tape either.

Nor do I think Erin Andrews is as hot as everyone else does. I see plenty of better looking women every day.

 

[rhYno]

There's been all sorts of speculation as to why she's really going on Opera and I believe this link pretty much sums it up:

Awful Announcing: Erin Andrews Wants To Go On "Dancing With The Stars"

I don't believe the whole thing was staged the way some idiots are claiming (though from what I hear the video is a little 'fishy'), but I still believe she's using this to boost her very own publicity (believe me when I say she's not as popular as you think).

As I asked, how many people who were violated the way she was, would actually have the nerve to go on Opera and discuss it to the public? I'll reach my verdict after I watch the episode. If she doesn't appear emotionally distraught over this, then it's all a joke which is what I think it is now. And as I stated in my other post, after those pics surfaced of a former sideline reporter for Fox, which is Tommy Bowden's daughter, you didn't see her opening up about it or appearing on talk-shows over it. Why? Possibly because she truly was TORN and embarrassed over it.

And allow me to emphasize this as well: I'm not saying what happened to her was right. It was wrong on an endless amount of levels and I do hope the peeping Tom is brought to justice. She is the good guy (or girl) in this battle, but THIS isn't about peeping Tom or the hotel video... but more about her taking this to Opera while claiming to be "disturbed" over this incident. And as far as the 911 call is concerned, if she's bothered by paparazzi, doesn't she realize Opera is only going to be paparazzi bait? Of course...

I just have this gut feeling she's been looking for some sort of 'big break' and this fell right into her hands giving her all she needs to achieve what she wants... it's almost like "sleeping" your way to the top. I don't know if she's looking for a promotion at another company, looking into acting, etc. but she's looking for something better than what she's got which is why I believe she's wanting to also audition for Dancing with the Stars. You can't really say she has enough publicity now to do what she pleases, because you'd be surprised at how truly unpopular she really is.

 

[rizolltizide]

Bad things. Baaaaaad things.

 

[SavannahDare]

Whoever filmed her should be strung up by his nether-regions. It was a gross violation of her privacy and I would become literally violent if I found out someone did that to me. Being an attractive woman doesn't mean she should expect to be treated this way. Being in the public eye doesn't mean she should expect to be treated this way. If she were acting like a hussy and this happened, I'd have far less sympathy for her, but I've never seen her act or dress inappropriately on air (I have no idea what she does in her private life). Seems to me some low-life liked how she looked and figured out a way to take a closer look, knowing she'd never give him the time of day in person. Pervert loser.

 

[Mav^]

I'm with you Rhyno. You don't go on Oprah to talk about something that you're distraught about. I think she's looking for a boost. And you're right, she's not very popular. Most people I know don't know who she is, even people who watch sports.

 

[bamachile]

Whoever filmed her should be strung up by his nether-regions. It was a gross violation of her privacy and I would become literally violent if I found out someone did that to me. Being an attractive woman doesn't mean she should expect to be treated this way. Being in the public eye doesn't mean she should expect to be treated this way. If she were acting like a hussy and this happened, I'd have far less sympathy for her, but I've never seen her act or dress inappropriately on air (I have no idea what she does in her private life). Seems to me some low-life liked how she looked and figured out a way to take a closer look, knowing she'd never give him the time of day in person. Pervert loser.

Savannah, please do not apologize for your outrage, and don't back away from expressing it. I honestly feel that we need stronger voices speaking for the right to privacy and against perverted intrusions upon that right.

Whether any of us like, dislike, or even know of Erin Andrews is of no consequence. Our ability to exist as a society is based on a common respect for each other. The ideals which define this common respect are crucial to peaceable coexistance, and that includes the right to privacy.

 

[fireater]

Savannah, please do not apologize for your outrage, and don't back away from expressing it. I honestly feel that we need stronger voices speaking for regarding the right to privacy and against perverted intrusions upon that right.

Whether any of us like, dislike, or even know of Erin Andrews is of no consequence. Our ability to exist as a society is based on a common respect for each other. The ideals which define this common respect are crucial to peaceable coexistance, and that includes the right to privacy.

well said, sir

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Whoever filmed her should be strung up by his nether-regions. It was a gross violation of her privacy and I would become literally violent if I found out someone did that to me. Being an attractive woman doesn't mean she should expect to be treated this way. Being in the public eye doesn't mean she should expect to be treated this way. If she were acting like a hussy and this happened, I'd have far less sympathy for her, but I've never seen her act or dress inappropriately on air (I have no idea what she does in her private life). Seems to me some low-life liked how she looked and figured out a way to take a closer look, knowing she'd never give him the time of day in person. Pervert loser.

I wouldn't call her attire on air "inappropriate" but very unprofessional. I will tell you what I find "odd".Why is it ESPN (when Erin is the sideline reporter) shows her entire body when going down to the field to get a sideline report? When other female sideline reporters are only shown from their waste up or shoulders up? Case in point in South Carolina's game last night. Early in the game "the booth" sent it down to Erin for a sideline comment. The camera shot was of Erin in her what looked to be some sort of unprofessional (not inappropriate mind you but unprofessional) tight stirrup pants with a sleeveless top. She is probably the only female reporter I've seen with this sort of "informal" attire on. Most other female sideline reporters appear (since their shots are from wast up or shoulders up) to be more business like and professional. So to me ESPN is subtly using her "sex appeal" as a drawing card.

And to address how she dresses in her "private life"/how she dresses in public when she's not at work. I'll just say there are a lot of pictures of her that have frequented many a man's email inbox.

What the person did to her is uncalled for and she doesn't "deserve" that to happen. But then again, I should have the "right" to walk around with cash flapping from my back pocket and no one pick pocket me, leave my doors unlocked while I'm not at home and nobody break in and allow my kids to play out in the front yard without me out there and no one should try to harm them either. But that's just not the world we live in.

 

[SavannahDare]

What the person did to her is uncalled for and she doesn't "deserve" that to happen. But then again, I should have the "right" to walk around with cash flapping from my back pocket and no one pick pocket me, leave my doors unlocked while I'm not at home and nobody break in and allow my kids to play out in the front yard without me out there and no one should try to harm them either. But that's just not the world we live in.

I doubt you'd be playing Devil's advocate were she your wife, your mother, your sister or your daughter. Just how far do you think an attractive woman should ugly herself up so as to avoid being intruded upon as she was? Never wear make-up? Never wear clothing that attracts a man's eye? Half of you guys will slobber over a woman in a t-shirt and jeans, so is even that too enticing? It's not like she's got her breasts hanging out and her skirts cut up to her privates like a street-walker or some of the trash you might see in a Wal-Mart parking lot.

As for ESPN, I would assume it is a company run by men who like the way she looks. I assume she is smart enough to be aware of that fact and to use it to her advantage to remain gainfully employed. ESPN likes ratings and money. It's a no-brainer why they shoot her the way they do and I don't hear her or most men complaining about it.

As for what she wore last night, I thought it was unattractive to say the least, and not provocative at all. Would've been cuter in a skirt or a pair of wide-legged slacks, but that's just my taste.

 

[92tide]

I doubt you'd be playing Devil's advocate were she your wife, your mother, your sister or your daughter. Just how far do you think an attractive woman should ugly herself up so as to avoid being intruded upon as she was? Never wear make-up? Never wear clothing that attracts a man's eye? Half of you guys will slobber over a woman in a t-shirt and jeans, so is even that too enticing? It's not like she's got her breasts hanging out and her skirts cut up to her privates like a street-walker or some of the trash you might see in a Wal-Mart parking lot.

As for ESPN, I would assume it is a company run by men who like the way she looks. I assume she is smart enough to be aware of that fact and to use it to her advantage to remain gainfully employed. ESPN likes ratings and money. It's a no-brainer why they shoot her the way they do and I don't hear her or most men complaining about it.

As for what she wore last night, I thought it was unattractive to say the least, and not provocative at all. Would've been cuter in a skirt or a pair of wide-legged slacks, but that's just my taste.

well said

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I doubt you'd be playing Devil's advocate were she your wife, your mother, your sister or your daughter. Just how far do you think an attractive woman should ugly herself up so as to avoid being intruded upon as she was? Never wear make-up? Never wear clothing that attracts a man's eye? Half of you guys will slobber over a woman in a t-shirt and jeans, so is even that too enticing? It's not like she's got her breasts hanging out and her skirts cut up to her privates like a street-walker or some of the trash you might see in a Wal-Mart parking lot.

As for ESPN, I would assume it is a company run by men who like the way she looks. I assume she is smart enough to be aware of that fact and to use it to her advantage to remain gainfully employed. ESPN likes ratings and money. It's a no-brainer why they shoot her the way they do and I don't hear her or most men complaining about it.

As for what she wore last night, I thought it was unattractive to say the least, and not provocative at all. Would've been cuter in a skirt or a pair of wide-legged slacks, but that's just my taste.

My view and my wife's as well (who strangely enough is more attractive than Erin) is that every situation is different and judgment is of the utmost importance. We've (my wife and I) actually talked about this before. It's not about what a person "should" be able to do or not without any negative consequence. But ultimately not being apart of the reason some sick minded freak decides to go crazy. That is why I used the examples of what I "should" be able to do compared to what I actually do because of how this society is and the idiots that make it up.

As I stated in my first post I don't know whether her attire on and/or off camera played apart in this or not. Who knows. But I do know that though her on air attire is usually never "provocative", I've seen her in her "off camera" attire. She's no different than any other woman that knows she's hot. She dresses the role. I'm not suggesting that it is "wrong" either. People have the right to dress how they want but do not have the power to control the responses they get either. If we didn't have the idiots like this fellow this would have never occurred. But when it comes to our safety and the decisions we make all the way from locking my house when I leave, letting my kids play in the front yard while I mow the back, how my daughter dresses before she goes out on a Friday night, we have to think of that very small percentage of people in our society that in exercising our "rights" we will attract. It's a sad reality but it still a reality.

No one is saying not wear make up or purposely "ugly" themselves up. That is taking my point to an extreme. But how about instead of the first button that's buttoned on your business blouse being the one that is after your cleavage line is fully showing, pick the next one up? Or rather than wearing a business blouse that is one size too small where the buttons around the chest area are noticeably under some heavy pressure, how about wearing one that actually fits? Or rather than wearing a business skirt that is so short and tight that someone else has to pick a dropped piece of paper up for you because if you did we could see where your lower back and your butt crack met, wear one that fit? Those aren't major, life changing sacrifices but could potentially keep a woman out of some bad situations. Again, SHOULD this be this way? Heck no, but it's the world we live in.

P.S. My wife has had to alter her attire at school (even more than what the school already requires) because of single AND married dad's noticing how attractive she is and hitting on her. She is very conscious of how she looks before she walks out the door and I'm glad she goes through that mental exercise.

 

[SavannahDare]

P.S. My wife has had to alter her attire at school (even more than what the school already requires) because of single AND married dad's noticing how attractive she is and hitting on her. She is very conscious of how she looks before she walks out the door and I'm glad she goes through that mental exercise.

Trust me, as a female psychiatrist, I know what it's like to downplay one's looks in order to keep people focused on something other than how I appear. But I work in an environment where my physical safety is at stake should I decide to dress in an alluring manner. Erin Andrews is a sideline "reporter" on a cable sports channel created for, run by, and intended to entertain a largely male audience. She is not a doctor, lawyer or teacher. She was hired, most likely, for the way she looks and her ability to string a few sentences together without stuttering. I am certain many men find her attractive.

That being said, there's nothing you can say to convince me that Erin Andrews somehow had this coming to her or that she deserved it OR that she could've avoided it by dressing like a schoolmarm. That is somehow holding the victim responsible for the perpetrator's bad behavior, and that is ridiculous. If she had been drunk, playing loud music to attract attention to herself, had her hotel room door cracked and her drapes wide open, I would be agreeing with you, but I'm pretty sure that didn't happen. Someone deliberately and with forethought decided to invade her privacy just so he could get his rocks off. That's simply wrong, and given the lack of evidence that she sought out this invasion of privacy, I'll continue to have to support her right to feel hurt, violated, and creeped out in general.