Friday Games We (somewhat) Care About: Egg Bowl, etc.

[selmaborntidefan]

He just claimed UTx should be in because they play in the SEC, beat the #3 team in the country, and only lost to OSU by 7. He conveniently left out the loss to a horrible Florida team and getting blown out by UGA.

They don’t really want to compare resumes with Bama.

This is the point the anti-playoff folks always made. Go back to the BCS or the 4-team and nobody with a functioning brain thinks a 3-loss team belongs. Expand it and the argument shifts from who belongs to “my 3 losses are really not 3 losses.”

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Despite the fact that the committee historically has not punished teams for playing the extra championship game, I would be very afraid of that. And if they were going to do it to anyone, you know they would stick it to BAMA.

This committee dropping us 6 spots from 4 to 10 for losing a 2 point game to the #11 team in the country told me all I need to know. If we lose in the SECCG we're done.

 

[December05]

Just my two cents that I’m hoping the ward off the evil spirits with, but A&M going increases this feeling that we’re about to as well. I think the league wants to see Kirby and Lane go at it in Atlanta, and us losing could have the unintended effect of keeping Lane at OM because he may well not be able to pass up another shot at Kirby in Atlanta. That would of course upset LSU’s possible apple cart and do no telling what to the Sumrall sweepstakes which seems to be veering towards Gainesville more so than Auburn anyway. Auburn winning would automatically make them googley-eyed for Durkin and easier to transfer expectations away from other candidates. I hope I’m wrong.

 

[Cruloc]

So we are the only team that has to walk hot coals all season to get in the CFP?

We've got that Florida State albatross around our necks.

Plus a loss in November.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

You better believe it. The idiot CFP chair drooled all over A&M for having to come back from a 4 TD deficit to beat South Carolina at home while he almost simultaneously hated on Alabama for coming back from 8 to win against the same team ON THE ROAD - because, you know, rushing yards and all. They wouldn’t hesitate to screw us over for losing the SECCG after giving weak sister SMU an absolute pass on the same situation.

That rushing yards comment is - bar none - the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard regarding rankings in my 48 seasons of listening to mouth breathers defend bad poll rankings.

It’s dumber than “I think Boise should be #1,” dumber than Bobby Petrino hopping on the motorcycle, dumber than hiring Houston Nutt as a head coach.

 

[Special K]

I don’t trust the committee at all. But I still think we beat Auburn and we’re in. If they punish us for losing an extra game we had to EARN to even play in order to reward a team sitting home watching on TV, there would be a massive revolt by the SEC. That happens and the SEC should immediately eliminate the SEC title game.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

We've got that Florida State albatross around our necks.

Plus a loss in November.

I KNEW when we lost that opening game it was going to haunt us all year.

 

[CoolBreeze]

I KNEW when we lost that opening game it was going to haunt us all year.

We deserve it though. Had no business losing that game.

 

[81usaf92]

There's no way he didn't want a shot to win the conference.

Then he is a moron. Before aTm went down he was at worst a #5 seed hosting a home playoff game. Now he is hoping Auburn beats us to get that guarantee back. If he loses to Bama again then he is traveling to either South Bend, College Station, Oxford, Norman, or Eugene. Or he is possibly out entirely depending on the wackiness that could happen in the Big XII and ACC.

Winning the conference comes at a high risk, and when you are forced to win a minimum of 3 games to win a national championship then you want EVERY advantage if you have to play 4 games. Winning the conference last year did him zero favors.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

We deserve it though. Had no business losing that game.

Do we? Going on an 8 game winning streak and beating four ranked SEC teams in a row (an SEC record) is trumped by one game at the beginning of the season? Then why play the rest of the games on our schedule after the loss? If that loss was insurmountable then we should have benched Ty and the rest of the players not returning next year to get the returning players ready for next season.

 

[81usaf92]

Can we stop with pretending the committee has a long track record that guides us? This is Year TWO of a 12-team playoff.

Now…..the claims made sound exactly the same as the insanity of the 4-team, l agree.

Well Alabama fans constantly complain about any metric until we get in. I constantly heard the SOS argument but it’s constantly ignored when Alabama needs to get in over a team with a better SOS.

Honestly I think the committee is starting with the top 5 and then grouping 6-15 against each other. I feel that they were hoping the Miami and BYU situations would have sorted themselves out but haven’t. So until Tuesday we won’t truly know what this committee values and anything right now is in an effort to position against the ACC and Big XII potential chaos. I believe if we beat Auburn then we jump ND to position a swap between us and UGA, and to show our fate should we lose the SECCG. Which I still firmly believe will not kick us out because of the potential consequences it carries amongst the two big conferences off the field.

 

[81usaf92]

This is the point the anti-playoff folks always made. Go back to the BCS or the 4-team and nobody with a functioning brain thinks a 3-loss team belongs. Expand it and the argument shifts from who belongs to “my 3 losses are really not 3 losses.”

The problem is that we have expanded conferences so much that it is impossible to not have some sort of playoff without eliminating about 40-50 teams. Tonight really showed that a weak team even in the toughest conference can gain a playoff spot just based of lucky scheduling. Alabama, Georgia, and Oklahoma are probably the only deserving teams in the SEC to be considered for a national championship but they all played a hellacious schedule while Ole Miss played 2 good teams and aTm lost to the only team they played with a pulse.

I’m more for a 4 super conference system where each conference has 16 teams. You do 10 conference schedules with divisions. Division winners play for the conference championship and the conference champs for each conference play in a 4 team playoff in which the rankings of the seedlings of the 4 are decided by a BCS like algorithm. All of the non playoff teams with 7 wins will go to bowls if everyone still wants them. Not perfect, and not without controversy but everyone knows the rules.

 

[Krymsonman]

This committee dropping us 6 spots from 4 to 10 for losing a 2 point game to the #11 team in the country told me all I need to know. If we lose in the SECCG we're done.

If we beat Auburn maybe we should tell the SEC we're not going to the championship because, in our case, the risk outweighs the reward.

 

[teamplayer]

This shouldn’t be even mildly surprising to anyone. A&M has no idea how to beat Texas at anything meaningful.

Also, it’s great seeing all these green “field goal range” lines on the screen parked back around 40 yard line today. Nice to know most of our conference competitors have missile launchers for placement kickers.

If they do one of those for us, they should make it bounce around like a strobe light from the 15 to the 35 yard line and every yard in between.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

Then he is a moron. Before aTm went down he was at worst a #5 seed hosting a home playoff game. Now he is hoping Auburn beats us to get that guarantee back. If he loses to Bama again then he is traveling to either South Bend, College Station, Oxford, Norman, or Eugene. Or he is possibly out entirely depending on the wackiness that could happen in the Big XII and ACC.

Winning the conference comes at a high risk, and when you are forced to win a minimum of 3 games to win a national championship then you want EVERY advantage if you have to play 4 games. Winning the conference last year did him zero favors.

I don’t think Kirby is wired like that and it doesn’t make him stupid.

I don’t like him but he’s a competitor.

This is a chance for him to potentially win the SEC Championship, Get a 1st round Bye, and get payback against Bama and nullify the 1st loss to us.

That’s a lot of potential rewards for him.

At worst if they lose they are 11-2 with both losses to the same team who would be the SEC Champ.

There is 0% chance they get left out of the CFBP.

If it were a close loss they might even hang in there as an 8 seed and still get a home game but at worst would be a 9-10 Seed and that’s if it were a blowout loss.

I would be interested to know why you see Bama as a virtual lock at 10-3 but UGA is at risk to be ousted at 11-2 because that just doesn’t objectively make sense to me.

Both teams resumes are overall pretty close but UGA would hypothetically be 11-2 without a bad loss like FSU or a record of 10-3.

 

[Cruloc]

Do we? Going on an 8 game winning streak and beating four ranked SEC teams in a row (an SEC record) is trumped by one game at the beginning of the season? Then why play the rest of the games on our schedule after the loss? If that loss was insurmountable then we should have benched Ty and the rest of the players not returning next year to get the returning players ready for next season.

We did overcome the loss, had an impressive run....then lost in November. Now the committee can use whatever excuse it wants.

Dropping from 4 to 10 for a two point loss to a now top 10 team.......should scream loud enough for everyone. Hearing the chairman say we have no run game and that hurt our ranking.....screams loudly as well.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

We did overcome the loss, had an impressive run....then lost in November. Now the committee can use whatever excuse it wants.

Dropping from 4 to 10 for a two point loss to a now top 10 team.......should scream loud enough for everyone. Hearing the chairman say we have no run game and that hurt our ranking.....screams loudly as well.

yep lose any of the next 2 games, if there is 2, and we are out.

 

[Cruloc]

Then he is a moron. Before aTm went down he was at worst a #5 seed hosting a home playoff game. Now he is hoping Auburn beats us to get that guarantee back. If he loses to Bama again then he is traveling to either South Bend, College Station, Oxford, Norman, or Eugene. Or he is possibly out entirely depending on the wackiness that could happen in the Big XII and ACC.

Winning the conference comes at a high risk, and when you are forced to win a minimum of 3 games to win a national championship then you want EVERY advantage if you have to play 4 games. Winning the conference last year did him zero favors.

No, he's not.

All these games are high risk at the level all these programs are.

These coaches want to win the SEC.

Now, if the loser of the game gets knocked out for losing another game.....discussions need to be had to either do away with the game entirely or incorporate in as part of the playoff.

 

[81usaf92]

No, he's not.

All these games are high risk at the level all these programs are.

These coaches want to win the SEC.

Now, if the loser of the game gets knocked out for losing another game.....discussions need to be had to either do away with the game entirely or incorporate in as part of the playoff.

Okay when he gets his head bashed in again next week and gets destroyed the following week in a road game vs a rested opponent i hope someone asks him about it. Because the SECCG has costed him 3 NCs in his career already.

 

[81usaf92]

I’m seeing alot of people on here who don’t have professional sports teams. Because living through playoffs is different than speculating what it is actually like. You either want two things… a hot team or the easiest path imaginable. Before aTm lost Georgia had both. After aTm lost that was put in limbo because they now went from potentially at worst hosting a G5 team for the 1st round to playing the 7th or 8th seed team on the road 1st round. Yes they have a lot to gain by winning the SECCG but now they have a lot to lose with losing it. This “he is a competitor” and “wired differently” stuff will get you put out of the playoffs far more than it actually pays off for you.

Alabama winning tonight will be the worst news Georgia hears all year if it comes to pass.