Heisman Finalists Named

I was pulling for the LB from Texas Tech. Great player and best one on their team. Butkus Award winner. Great story and I would like to see a defensive player win it. Thought he’d be a finalist but never expected him to actually win it.
 
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The integrity of the Heisman has suffered with some of the winners lately...seems to be a media popularity award...if it truly is the most impactful player for a team then its Pavia by a mile...plus Pavia in the Nissan Heisman commercials would be great spectating. The stats for Mendoza/Sayin are pretty average...Love is a great back but against really poor teams...not so much in their first 2 games....but I suspect the media darling Mendoza gets it....
This is probably true. Everyone is on the Mendoza bandwagon right now but remember, Indiana had an 11-1 regular season last year and made it to the playoff with Kurtis Rourke at QB, so maybe people shouldn't be giving the QB too much credit for Indiana's success. Mendoza's stats are about the same as Rourke's were who finished 9th in the voting a year ago. Cignetti has turned Indiana into a contender through his coaching ability and not so much because of the QB. In the case of Vandy they were nothing before Pavia and they may turn into nothing again after he leaves.
 
I think they literally took that out after $cam
Scam, Manziel, and Rapist Winston

then again - before we think it was better in the old days - Johnny Rodgers was a convicted felon when he won the Heisman in 1972.

You know what's funny?

There were bad stories about the 1976 Heisman winner, Tony Dorsett.

His big sin?
He had an out-of-wedlock baby and nearly had to withdraw from PITT over it.

That doesn't even register nowadays.
 
Pavia was more integral to Vanderbilt's season than any of the other candidates. Fer cryin' out loud, he took Vanderbilt to the brink of the playoffs! Vanderbilt!! Pavia should win the Heisman, but Mendoza probably wins it. That wouldn't be a miscarriage of justice. Indiana has been irrelevant for decades in football until NIL and Mendoza arrived.
People are whining about Notre Dame not making it in over Bama, but Vandy should also have made it in the playoffs. They are the ones who should be whining. I think Pavia got way too cocky for a while this year, but the guy absolutely maximizes his ability and leaves everything he has out on the field.
 
If we have to give it to someone, then I think it should be Pavia. Not buying this "best player on the best team" nonsense. First of all, Indiana wouldn't even be in the playoffs if they were in the SEC, so they're not really the best team, and the playoff will show that. Mendoza's numbers are not really Heisman material so i don't really understand the hype. Pavia's numbers aren't really Heisman-worthy either, but he's carried Vandy to an incredible season in a better conference.

It is aggravating to me, because there have been weeks where Ty and Mendoza had similar statistics (like LSU/Penn State week) and Ty would drop while Mendoza rose.

Truthfully, I'm not sure there was anyone this season who wss truly Heisman material. Maybe we should just cancel the award for this year.
 
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So does anyone still watch the Miss America Padgett? Seems to me this farce will go away as soon as we stop tuning in and discussing it.
I quit watching pageants after going to a local Junior Miss pageant a billion years ago. My boyfriend's sister was in it. We sat there horrified at what they had those teenage girls doing. Nothing bad, just stupid and embarrassing. All dressed in formal gowns but holding gigantic beach balls and posing, skipping and jumping around in ridiculous positions. It had to be an effort to see how well the girls could carry off such a thing without looking obviously humiliated. His sister's talent was sewing and designing clothes. We knew she was extremely talented but they provided her no real way to show this talent so her demonstration of it was not impressive. Boyfriend sat slumped down saying, "Honestly, I love my little sister and whatever she wants, I want for her. If she wins and moves on to a higher level pageant, I don't know if I can sit there and watch this kind of thing again.", and, boy did I agree. It changed the way I felt about that kind of stuff.
 

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