Highly touted LSU 2010 QB Signee Zach Lee signs with the Dodgers

TideSatchel

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...just as the deadline expired tonight. Even after the Dodgers picked Lee in the first round this year, many viewed him as unsignable. I personally thought he would go to LSU, where he's been working out with the football team since June, and I was not happy about it. He would have been a good QB there in my opinion. But Jim Callis of Baseball America is reporting that the Dodgers offered Lee a deal worth 5.25 million dollars and Lee signed and will give up football to pursue a career in baseball.

He was the only QB LSU signed in the 2010 class. And just a week after losing Ely to the Tide. I wonder if LSU will try to add a second QB in this class? It seems like they would want to, but I wonder who they'll go after.
 
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There's talk of Raymond Cotton ending up at LSU now. Unless they can get an experienced transfer, the 2012 QB depth chart is going to be short on experience for the Tigers. Stephen Rivers, and whoever else they may add by then, will all most likely be freshmen. However, there is the option of Russell Shepard moving back to QB, but most LSU fans don't seem to think that will happen.
 

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You just have to wonder when all these little step backwards for Les and his program reach the tipping point and big-time recruits take their own step back, look at what's happening and then turn to someplace else.

It's like the flow of saltwater into the fresh water supplies under the bayous. Every year, LSU's future under Miles gets a little murkier and a lot harder to swallow.
 

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So he's been on campus working out? I guess the Dodgers' offer was real nice. I don't get it, though. Why be on campus if you're not committed to the team? Does that not cause the other QB's to lose reps?

Also, they did sign Sam Gibson last year. They moved him to safety, but he played QB at Prattville. As a Bama fan, I would enjoy seeing Sam play QB for Les.
 

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So he's been on campus working out? I guess the Dodgers' offer was real nice. I don't get it, though. Why be on campus if you're not committed to the team? Does that not cause the other QB's to lose reps?
The cynical view would be that he was there for leverage in the contract negotiations, and I'm sure that's partially true. However, if there was a real chance that he might not sign, and it looks like there was, he needed to be there like every other freshman.

Regardless of your motives, how hard is it to turn down a reported $5.25 million at 18 years old? If you play your cards right, you are now set for life, and you still have the opportunity to come back and play football if baseball doesn't work out.
 

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Here is what I don't understand, why can't he play for LSU as well. There is a guy who plays for Clemson who also signed a baseball contract (getting $1.25 million bonus) yet is still going to play for Clemson this year. Why can one guy continue to play and the other can't? Why is this allowed at all when it comes to baseball but a football only player takes $100 from a booster and the entire team is placed on probation? The NCAA really has some screwed up rules. If baseball players can sign and still play college ball, then football players should be able to as well.
 

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LSU fans are upset at Miles over Lee's signing with the Dodgers, but it really goes back to Ryan Perriloux. Without his shenanigans, Jarrett Lee doesn't get pressed into service as a starter as a redshirt freshman, and Jordan Jefferson has some time to learn the position without being under fire. Right now, they are the only quarterbacks left on scholarship. LSU seems excited about Rivers, but the Jefferson-Lee combo is all they have for 2010 and 2011, and they ain't happy.

Didn't we recruit Zach Lee, too?
 

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By the way, the Clemson player is not under a baseball contract NOW, and that is all that matters. You cannot be a pro in one sport and play another until you are no longer under contract. Zach Lee can return to play football if the MLB contract doesn't work out. The reverse would also be true: if Julio signs an NFL contract, once that is over he would still be able to use whatever college eligibility he had left to play golf, baseball, etc.
 
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I was misinformed. Apparently there are several NCAA football players under MLB contracts. But a football player who wanted to sign an NFL contract and play college baseball could do that if he had eligibility left. Don't know why he would want to, but he could.
 

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By the way, the Clemson player is not under a baseball contract NOW, and that is all that matters.
This is incorrect. A player does not lose his football eligibility by playing professional baseball, as long as the following guidelines are followed:

1. A player can sign a professional baseball contract with a professional team and still return to play NCAA football at any time - if his contract allows him to do so. He can receive money and benefits from a professional baseball team.
2. He can receive a scholarship to play football as long as he maintains his amateur status in football.
3. He can sign with an agent. ALL contracts and conversations with an agent must be specific to baseball.
4. He can receive money and benefits from an agent as long as (condition) No. 3 is met.
5. He cannot sign any commercial endorsement deal.

Clemson QB Kyle Parker did indeed sign a contract with the Rockies - one that allowed him to play football at Clemson this fall. Another example is NC State QB Russell Wilson, who has been playing in the Rockies organization this summer, and will play for NC State this fall.

The difference between Zach Lee and Kyle Parker, both first round picks, is that Lee took the money to not play football while he's under contract - which netted him 5.25 million dollars. And Parker left the money on the table so that the Rockies would allow him to play football at Clemson this fall - which netted him only 1.25 million, which is not a lot for a first rounder this year. Also, Parker stands to lose most of the money in his contract if he were to be injured playing football, as the signing bonus is spread out over time and conditional on him remaining healthy.

It is rare for a baseball team to allow a first round pick that they are paying above slot money to to play college football, which is why you don't see this happen more often. Also the seasons overlap by several months.

Note that both Kyle Parker and Russell Wilson were drafted by the Rockies, who seemed determined to sign their draftees this year, even if it meant allowing them to play football - as neither probably would have signed if they had tried to disallow them, even though it would have been for more money.

Hope this helps.
 

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I'm not trying to hijack my own thread, but as long as we're talking about LSU QB depth...

...what the heck happened with Chris Garrett? I understand he transferred to Northwestern State after last year because Miles made it clear JJ and JL would be the two competing for the starting job moving forward.

Remembering his recruitment, he is apparently a lifelong Mississippi State fan and spent most of the recruiting process committed to them. (I believe Bama recruited him also.) Then somewhat late in the process, he spurned his beloved Bulldogs for LSU, basically because they were a more prestigous program, only to transfer only one year later to lowly Northwestern State? How on earth did that happen, especially with now only 2 scholarship QB's on LSU's roster?!? Garrett must be kicking himself now for turning his back on MSU for whatever it was LSU sold him on. I genuinely feel bad for him, without even knowing the details of the story. And Miles is an idiot.

Can anyone else shed any more light on this situation for me?
 

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I'm not trying to hijack my own thread, but as long as we're talking about LSU QB depth...

...what the heck happened with Chris Garrett? I understand he transferred to Northwestern State after last year because Miles made it clear JJ and JL would be the two competing for the starting job moving forward.

Remembering his recruitment, he is apparently a lifelong Mississippi State fan and spent most of the recruiting process committed to them. (I believe Bama recruited him also.) Then somewhat late in the process, he spurned his beloved Bulldogs for LSU, basically because they were a more prestigous program, only to transfer only one year later to lowly Northwestern State? How on earth did that happen, especially with now only 2 scholarship QB's on LSU's roster?!? Garrett must be kicking himself now for turning his back on MSU for whatever it was LSU sold him on. I genuinely feel bad for him, without even knowing the details of the story. And Miles is an idiot.

Can anyone else shed any more light on this situation for me?
have you ever stopped to even consider the possibility that Les Miles told him what he needed to do to retain his scholarship, and Garrett said thanks, but no? Miles pulled his scholly and told him what was expected from him to earn it back. He didn't want to do the work. He thought he was a lot better than he was. I will be stunned if he starts at Northwestern.
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Oh, and by the way...that didn't happen "after last year". It happened in June...of this year...like two months ago.
 

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Other college QBs/pro baseball guys.

Matt Mauck-LSU
Josh Booty-LSU
Chris Weinke-FSU

Off the top of my head. FWIW, I do not believe Zach Lee will ever play college football. Most Tiger fans are upset about this for more than one reason. LSU lost a HUGE chunk of it's BASEBALL recruiting class yesterday...Zach Lee included...along with Anthony Ranaudo, who signed with the Red Sox yesterday. So basically, LSU has zero starting pitching for next baseball season. We've still got a heck of a closer, but nobody to get from 1-8. I think I have elegibility left, and may try to walk on next spring. I've got no heat, but I can throw some junk for strikes.:D
 

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LSU definitely needs to pick up another QB this year though. I never thought Ely would stick with LSU if he chose them anyway. It was always stated that if ND or FL ever offered, he was theirs for the taking. I don't think you have anything to worry about as far as LSU swaying him.
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I think Brissett is now down to LSU/FSU, and I imagine the depth chart at LSU is appealing. Of course, he is a two sport guy too...:mad:...so how many times do you play with fire after getting burned.
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I respect Zach Lee. I think he was like everyone else, and truly didn't think the Dodgers would come off the cash. They have NEVER paid like that...and certainly not for the 28th pick. They rarely pay over slot, and they paid him INFINITELY over slot. He attended summer classes at LSU, worked out with the team, practiced with the team, and seemed very into it...football, and the college experience in general. But he would be a fool to turn down $5.25 million to play for LSU, Alabama, UF, whoever. He was considered unsignable because of the staggering amount he was demanding. He was demanding that amount because he also wanted to play football, and was OK if they didn't pony up. But they did. Good for him, bad for LSU.
 

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