How Xi and Putin’s new friendship could test the US

[Tidewater]

This is interesting. A look at Chinese hybrid warfare.

The effectiveness of China’s information operations. A related factor accounting for the Western allies’ timidity over Chinese behavior in the Indo-Pacific has been the success of Beijing’s information operations. These operations have been greatly assisted by the Chinese acquisition of media enterprises in Western countries and the penetration and subversion of others. Further contributing factors have been the courting of key decision-makers, jour- nalists, and academics, accomplished through fully paid visits to China; the contribution of substantial funds to political parties; the establishment of pro-Beijing associations of many types, including Confucius Institutes in universities; the regular insertion of Chinese-produced supplements in metropolitan newspapers; and the organization of periodic “patriotic” demon- strations, concerts, and other events by Chinese embassies, consulates, and other pro-Beijing entities. Cyber and intelligence operations have also been used to reinforce key messages; recruit Chinese intelligence agents and “agents of influence;” and, periodically, to intimidate, coerce, and deter allied counteractions.

Dr. Ross Babbage, Stealing a March.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

This is interesting. A look at Chinese hybrid warfare.

The effectiveness of China’s information operations. A related factor accounting for the Western allies’ timidity over Chinese behavior in the Indo-Pacific has been the success of Beijing’s information operations. These operations have been greatly assisted by the Chinese acquisition of media enterprises in Western countries and the penetration and subversion of others. Further contributing factors have been the courting of key decision-makers, jour- nalists, and academics, accomplished through fully paid visits to China; the contribution of substantial funds to political parties; the establishment of pro-Beijing associations of many types, including Confucius Institutes in universities; the regular insertion of Chinese-produced supplements in metropolitan newspapers; and the organization of periodic “patriotic” demon- strations, concerts, and other events by Chinese embassies, consulates, and other pro-Beijing entities. Cyber and intelligence operations have also been used to reinforce key messages; recruit Chinese intelligence agents and “agents of influence;” and, periodically, to intimidate, coerce, and deter allied counteractions.

Dr. Ross Babbage, Stealing a March.

Day before yesterday, it was announced that China had lost population for the first time since 1961 and was forecast to lose half its population by the end of the century. Unfortunately, this makes them all the more dangerous, IMO...

 

[Tidewater]

The Chinese government publishes a map showing that some Indian territory is actually Chinese territory.
I do not know why China insists of going out of its way to tick off all its neighbors.
China map: India lodges 'strong protest' over territory claims
China tells India to 'stay calm' in border map row
The Chinese government tells India to "stay calm," but publish a US State Department map with Taiwan labeled, "The Independent Non-Beijing-owned Republic of China" and watch them do dadgum cheetah flips.

 

[92tide]

telling my wife to stay calm usually works out swimmingly so i think china is on the right track here

 

[Tidewater]

I found this interesting.
Putin goes to report to Beijing
Kasparv.ru is an online journal of liberal-minded Russians published outside the Russian Federation, but in the Russian language.
The Congressional Research Service says that there are three million Chinese now living in the Russian Federation, mostly in Siberia. They are starting to wield political influence inside the system.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I found this interesting.
Putin goes to report to Beijing
Kasparv.ru is an online journal of liberal-minded Russians published outside the Russian Federation, but in the Russian language.
The Congressional Research Service says that there are three million Chinese now living in the Russian Federation, mostly in Siberia. They are starting to wield political influence inside the system.

Interesting indeed! I looked for it to happen in the form of a demand from China that the ceded lands be ceded back by Moscow. I didn't expect this "creeping takeover"...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Interesting indeed! I looked for it to happen in the form of a demand from China that the ceded lands be ceded back by Moscow. I didn't expect this "creeping takeover"...

I found this interesting.
Putin goes to report to Beijing
Kasparv.ru is an online journal of liberal-minded Russians published outside the Russian Federation, but in the Russian language.
The Congressional Research Service says that there are three million Chinese now living in the Russian Federation, mostly in Siberia. They are starting to wield political influence inside the system.

Can you give us a brief summary of the interview with Kasparov? The rest of the article has an English toggle, but not that interview...

 

[Go Bama]

Can you give us a brief summary of the interview with Kasparov? The rest of the article has an English toggle, but not that interview...

Where is the English toggle?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Where is the English toggle?

On the original article, upper, just right of middle...

 

[crimsonaudio]

I found this interesting.
Putin goes to report to Beijing
Kasparv.ru is an online journal of liberal-minded Russians published outside the Russian Federation, but in the Russian language.
The Congressional Research Service says that there are three million Chinese now living in the Russian Federation, mostly in Siberia. They are starting to wield political influence inside the system.

Never considered a 'passive' takeover like that, but that's what they've been doing to Nepal iirc, so I can't see why they'd not try it vs Rus.

 

[Tidewater]

A Chinese view of north Asia.

I m not saying China and Russia's "friendship" will fall apart tomorrow, but, if subjected to stress, the inherent contradictions will become apparent.

 

[Go Bama]

A Chinese view of north Asia.
View attachment 36880
I m not saying China and Russia's "friendship" will fall apart tomorrow, but, if subjected to stress, the inherent contradictions will become apparent.

It's hard to tell anything from that postage stamp sized map. Do you have a link so we can zoom in a little? From that map it looks like China is claiming Nepal and Bhutan, and parts of India and maybe even Mongolia.

 

[Tidewater]

It's hard to tell anything from that postage stamp sized map. Do you have a link so we can zoom in a little? From that map it looks like China is claiming Nepal and Bhutan, and parts of India and maybe even Mongolia.

The Chinese consider the green area (the Russian far east) to be Chinese.

 

[Tidewater]

I saw this at work today. Interesting.

While CSIS is not saying we will or should go to war over Taiwan, they have wargamed what will happen if we do.

The outcome: CSIS believe the US and Taiwan could defeat a Chinese invasion.
"The United States and Japan lose dozens of ships (including two aircraft carriers), hundreds of aircraft, and thousands of servicemembers. Such losses would damage the U.S. global position for many years." From the CCP's perspective, the defeat could kill the CCP's legitimacy and destabilize the Chinese regime.
The full report is here.
The First Battle of the Next War

 

[TIDE-HSV]

A Chinese view of north Asia.
View attachment 36880
I m not saying China and Russia's "friendship" will fall apart tomorrow, but, if subjected to stress, the inherent contradictions will become apparent.

Russia's position is basically that of a mendicant. Eventually, China will want to be paid back in long-lost lands...

 

[TexasBama]

I saw this at work today. Interesting.

While CSIS is not saying we will or should go to war over Taiwan, they have wargamed what will happen if we do.

The outcome: CSIS believe the US and Taiwan could defeat a Chinese invasion.
"The United States and Japan lose dozens of ships (including two aircraft carriers), hundreds of aircraft, and thousands of servicemembers. Such losses would damage the U.S. global position for many years." From the CCP's perspective, the defeat could kill the CCP's legitimacy and destabilize the Chinese regime.
The full report is here.
The First Battle of the Next War

I skimmed through the report linked. To summarize - put their ships on the bottom asap

 

[Tidewater]

I skimmed through the report linked. To summarize - put their ships on the bottom asap

Two things struck me.
One is that the Marine Littoral Combat Regiments (Marines armed with antiship missiles) are effective, but cannot be resupplied.
The USAF needs more, cheaper planes. Most of the USAF aircraft were destroyed on the ground. The F35 is a great airplane, probably worth ten J-20s. The USAF emphasis on quality works both ways, however. If the USAF loses an F35 fighter on the ground to a missile strike,. it has lost the equivalent of ten J-20s.
In the meantime, CSIS suggests hardening aircraft hangars in the western Pacific. Much cheaper than buying more F35s.

 

[Tidewater]

Russia's position is basically that of a mendicant. Eventually, China will want to be paid back in long-lost lands...

Afraid so.

 

[Tidewater]

The USAF leadership did not embrace the "more cheaper airplanes" idea. That is not their current ethic.

 

[crimsonaudio]

The USAF leadership did not embrace the "more cheaper airplanes" idea. That is not their current ethic.

They've been trying to kill the A10 for a decade or more now, for example.