I'm done with Mitch Gaspard.

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cuda.1973

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Well..................

Unless we seriously upgrade our facilities, we are not going to get the best recruits.

So, how do you upgrade the facilities?

Well...................

One way is to bring in a better head coach, who can do what CPM did for our softball team. Not sure the donors are going to fork over $$$$$, for better facilities, unless they see a brighter day ahead. Tell me you would dig deep into your wallet to give this bunch a nicer facility. Do you really think they could maximize its benefit?

Bet your answer to both is "no".

The reality is we are going to be stuck with CMG, in the interim. Brother Bill needs to start planning on getting that new facility, and who is going to be the face of our program. Launch them simultaneously.
 

bamamick

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I am trying to damp down the pain.

To be brutally honest, I am just glad it's over now. What happens next year will happen next year, but I think that Gaspard will be back, as will his assemblage of 'coaches' that work with him.

rtr
 

pcfixup

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As long as the Powers that Be are content with being just a little better than Auburn, nothing will change. And unless someone like JessN or TiderHSV (someone who has the ears of the major boosters) can tell us otherwise, I am convinced that this is the case.
 

ptw1961

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I am glad someone else has suggested that Mitch Gaspard and his entire coaching staff needs to be let go-NOW!. What happenned this weekend is inexcusable and if anyone on here wants to try and defend him and his coaches- go ahead. You will lose that discussion with me. I feel bad for the kids-they deserve better. I listened to the post game interview with Gaspard and he still did not take one bit blame for this loss-as if he ever does. Just called it a learning experience for the younger guys. If Alabama baseball was anywhere close to where it should be, losing to Troy twice in a regional playoff should NEVER happen. Mitch and Norris just stood there and watched like they did not care.

The ninth inning was just beyond belief- no trip to the mound and no one else in the bullpen that was ready. Ultimately this falls on the board of trustees for failing to financially support this program. This is what happens when you have the 2nd lowest paid coach in the conference (behind only Missouri) and nearly the worst stadium and facilities in conference. They simply do not care about baseball which is hard to understand. There are no excuses when this university is one of the top 5-6 most profitable athletic departments in the country. Bill Battle has mentioned that the stadium is a 3-5 year plan- it needs to be 3- 5 month plan in terms of getting it started.

Any other school would parlay the tremendous football and financial success into getting the other major sports out of being mediocre. At least we hired Grant in an attempt to save basketball. (results are still pending). Defenders please make your points- I would love to discuss them.
 

Bama Reb

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Well..................

Unless we seriously upgrade our facilities, we are not going to get the best recruits.

So, how do you upgrade the facilities?

Well...................

One way is to bring in a better head coach, who can do what CPM did for our softball team. Not sure the donors are going to fork over $$$$$, for better facilities, unless they see a brighter day ahead. Tell me you would dig deep into your wallet to give this bunch a nicer facility. Do you really think they could maximize its benefit?

Bet your answer to both is "no".

The reality is we are going to be stuck with CMG, in the interim. Brother Bill needs to start planning on getting that new facility, and who is going to be the face of our program. Launch them simultaneously.
Without getting into the coaching situation, the above is, imo, completely wrong-headed. If you want a better program, you should start with upgrading the facilities.
 

ptw1961

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And there lies the problem- anyone who knows and follows college baseball can see that the in game management is at time ridiculous. You are a great poster and loyal Bama fan- but you readily admit that you do not follow baseball. That is very true concerning 80% of the tide fan base.
Is he really that bad? I don't follow baseball that closely but he can't be that bad.
 

TrampLineman

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Is he really that bad? I don't follow baseball that closely but he can't be that bad.
Yes he can be that bad and is!:wink: We have been suffering through this for awhile now with no end in sight. Like others have said these boys truly deserve better. Nobody can tell me that Dax shouldn't have went out and tried to settle Ray down. I probably would have won or lost on Ray's arm as well as CMG did, but you better believe I would have went out there or try and calm him and make sure nothing was wrong with how he felt today you can believe that. I've visited the mound for less and dang sure ain't no college coach! You just can't leave a nervous Freshman that is wild out there to swim with the fishes and you just sit there all wild eyed like "wow I have never seen this happen". I truly think CMG and CDN do get lost in games instead of trying to actually manage it.

I think the University has enough money on hand to up grade baseball facilities. Just don't know why they don't.
Thing is baseball is not a money maker so they'll continue to be on the back burner until it is absolutely needed. It is a joke The Joe has went this long while LSU and USCe builds powerhouses while we sit back and say "well it looks good on the outside". Yea sure:rolleyes:
 

JDCrimson

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Put a stadium down the river and give a minor league baseball stadium feel like in Montgomery or Bham now and you will draw the fans. Get some local businesses to commit to skybox leases and you have a shot at a breakeven or better program. This junk is ridiculous.
 

crimsonkelly

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I grew up not far from FSU. They have decent facilities with the field being in the shadow of the football field. Having good facilities at a place like Alabama is about want to. The money is there, the desire isn't. Plain and simple. There is no reason we shouldn't be a top 10 program year in and year out. With the talent on hand, if we were to get a staff like at Vandy, LSU, FSU, USC, name 15 more if you wish, we would win 45 games next year easily in the regular season.
 

JDCrimson

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Yeah if you can build facilities for rowing and commit $750,000 to the City to assist with renovations of the greens at Ol'Colony and rebuild the track stadium, completely refurbish Foster for the women bball (which was a totally unnecessary project at the time), yeah you have enough money to do something about baseball.
 

JDCrimson

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If Vandy can field the No1 team in America for most of the season at a private school who doesnt even have a cognizable athletic department within the university structure, surely, we can field a team that can compete in the upper half of the conference and make it to a super regional with regularity.

Bottomline is if you look at how many games we lost by one run or in extra innings this season, if CMG had managed this team like someone actually cares as opposed to just drawing a paycheck, then this team could have virtually the same record as Troy did, which would have been a good season considering our youth.
 

bamajake

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There is no doubt whatsoever that the money is there to build a new stadium. The only thing missing is the commitment to do so.

I keep seeing posts saying to build a stadium on the river. Where on the river are you talking about building a stadium? To my knowledge, there isn't a big enough piece of land on the river to build a stadium that the University owns or that is available to the University.

Of course, I do not believe that a new stadium is going to happen any time soon. If anything, there will be renovations to the existing stadium unless they tear down the Joe and build something new there.
 

pcfixup

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There is no doubt whatsoever that the money is there to build a new stadium. The only thing missing is the commitment to do so.

I keep seeing posts saying to build a stadium on the river. Where on the river are you talking about building a stadium? To my knowledge, there isn't a big enough piece of land on the river to build a stadium that the University owns or that is available to the University.

Of course, I do not believe that a new stadium is going to happen any time soon. If anything, there will be renovations to the existing stadium unless they tear down the Joe and build something new there.
Half of the funding for the FB program comes from 100 people and none of those care about baseball. Until or unless that changes, nothing will get better.
 

Bama Reb

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There's no doubt that UA has the money to upgrade the baseball park. All it takes is an AD who cares as much about making the baseball program as successful as all the other UA sports.
Provide the needed support from the University and the rest will fall in line.
IMO the question is not "Can we afford to do it?" The question is "Can we afford to NOT do it?"
 

cuda.1973

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Without getting into the coaching situation, the above is, imo, completely wrong-headed. If you want a better program, you should start with upgrading the facilities.
Well, that is the crux of the problem: the facilities. There is no reason things should have gotten that bad. We are so far behind it is pathetic. Except maybe the PTB don't care if we field a winning baseball team.

We field championship-level teams in gymnastics, golf, and softball. (Tennis?) None are cash cows. Ok, they don't need a complete overhaul of their facilities. But, they have people running those programs that expect to win. Winning draws attention, and attention does have its rewards, even if they are minor.

How are we ever going to compete against LSU (a tall order), or maybe USCe, or even Vandy (a private school!)? But are we going to be content to slap a coat of paint, on The Joe, look around and say "Well, at least we are not API. We didn't have to fire our coach."

We all knew the serious challenges facing upgrading our facilities. Everything from "Where do we put it", to "Where is the money going to come from?" None of us here have the answer(s). All we can do is cause clamor, and hope someone notices.

It may be asking for too much, but will Brother Bill stand up, and say "We are committed to a winning baseball team. We are going to have a major facilities upgrade. It is going to take time. But, make no mistake we are going to do it, do it right, and not something slap-dash. In the meantime, we need to instill a winning attitude, and for that reason, I would like to introduce............................."

We know it won't happen this year. But, is it too much to expect someone is going to sit CMG down, and 'splain to him these results are not acceptable. Politely suggest he needs to fix his coaching staff, or we are going to fix it for him.

Kinda sorta reminds me of a story..................

Worked at a place that was in deep doo-doo. Constant layoffs. One day, the big boss sat my boss down, and said "We need to eliminate 5 people. Come up with 4 names."

Ironic part is the big boss was also told "We need to eliminate x people, so come up with x-1 names."

So, CMG can replace 2 coaches, or we can replace 3. His choice.
 
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Bama Reb

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Well, that is the crux of the problem: the facilities. There is no reason things should have gotten that bad. We are so far behind it is pathetic. Except maybe the PTB don't care if we field a winning baseball team.

We field championship-level teams in gymnastics, golf, and softball. (Tennis?) None are cash cows. Ok, they don't need a complete overhaul of their facilities. But, they have people running those programs that expect to win. Winning draws attention, and attention does have its rewards, even if they are minor.

How are we ever going to compete against LSU (a tall order), or maybe USCe, or even Vandy (a private school!)? But are we going to be content to slap a coat of paint, on The Joe, look around and say "Well, at least we are not API. We didn't have to fire our coach."

We all knew the serious challenges facing upgrading our facilities. Everything from "Where do we put it", to "Where is the money going to come from?" None of us here have the answer(s). All we can do is cause clamor, and hope someone notices......
I could not agree more.
I actually can't believe that this is even an issue at UA. I think the overall Bama Nation would like nothing better than for the baseball program to join the ranks of those that are bringing home SEC and National Championship titles. I also think everyone realizes that the baseball program has been ignored far too long.
Even with the latest upgrades to BDS, we still have hundreds, if not thousands, of individuals waiting in line to purchase season fb tickets via Tide Pride. We pour many millions of dollars into the athletic department to insure that our student athletes have the best facilities possible and to give them everything they need to perform at the highest level possible. That said, I'm not buying the suggestion that we can't afford to do the same for the baseball program. Further, I think it's an absolute disgrace that the same people who take pride in what has been accomplished with all the other sports programs can still turn a blind eye to the baseball program.
 
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