LANK/NIL...

[JohnD]

I'll confess to old.

Only occasionally and mildly grumpy, but it's been a great few weeks!!!

Don't hate NIL. Players put in enough work to get more than just the scholarship. It needs more structure to avoid this free agency BS for sure though.

I do hate lank and what that's done to Alabama because it's far and above any of the normal NIL crap. Optimistic that we move past that and to whatever structure yea alabama puts in place for the players.

Yeah, NIL has become a misnomer. These huge payday deals that that are used to entice kids to sign out of high school and then to transfer somewhere else is not NIL. It's pay for play recruiting. Just like rogue booster recruiting in the old days except it has expanded to players on other teams.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Back when the NCAA was being so damned ridiculous, many of us OFs predicted that, when the system finally bent, it would collapse of its own weight. Sometimes academicians are not the best people to try to administer something as large as the NCAA...

 

[Isaiah 63:1]

Back when the NCAA was being so damned ridiculous, many of us OFs predicted that, when the system finally bent, it would collapse of its own weight. Sometimes academicians are not the best people to try to administer something as large as the NCAA...

Imagine a world in which Dr. Witt and CNS administered the NCAA…

 

[Valley View]

Just let the NFL take it over and run it.

The NCAA is totally useless.

I think it will eventually be the NFL that takes over college football. Two main conferences, one for the NFC and one for the AFC. The college game will be the farm league for the NFL. Who else has the money to pay the athletes?

 

[The Ols]

I think it will eventually be the NFL that takes over college football. Two main conferences, one for the NFC and one for the AFC. The college game will be the farm league for the NFL. Who else has the money to pay the athletes?

Private Equity…
I hate to say it, but we’re a prime target.
Firms are already lurking.
We’re a huge brand that’s falling behind in the arms () race…we consider ourselves bleeding edge, why not be first to jump into that pool?

 

[LSUgrad2BamaDad]

I think it will eventually be the NFL that takes over college football. Two main conferences, one for the NFC and one for the AFC. The college game will be the farm league for the NFL. Who else has the money to pay the athletes?

The NFL has been so hands off of CFB because the old system benefited them. Players were desperate to get to the NFL, but by the NFLs own collective bargaining agreements, players were ineligible until 3 years removed from college. That created a pseudo farm system where the schools took all of the risks, as well as profits, but passed along a mostly ready replacement workforce. Like it or not, they discard older and ineffective players in exchange for this new group each year. Those discarded players can’t go back to college, maybe can move on to a lesser league where salaries are about the same as an entry level blue collar job.

where the NFL will start to get concerned, is when their new talent pool dwindles because “college” teams will pay a higher amount to keep players on their roster. Years of eligibility get extended because it could be ruled unfair to limit someone to 4-5 if they are also working towards a degree, which sounds stupid because it’s mostly no longer about academics, but I could see a case being made by a Duke, Rice, Vanderbilt, etc player.

I hate this new world. I have renamed my work’s “College FB Smack talk” MS Teams chat to “Young Professionals that play on a College campus smack talk”

 

[Toddrn]

The NFL has been so hands off of CFB because the old system benefited them. Players were desperate to get to the NFL, but by the NFLs own collective bargaining agreements, players were ineligible until 3 years removed from college. That created a pseudo farm system where the schools took all of the risks, as well as profits, but passed along a mostly ready replacement workforce. Like it or not, they discard older and ineffective players in exchange for this new group each year. Those discarded players can’t go back to college, maybe can move on to a lesser league where salaries are about the same as an entry level blue collar job.

where the NFL will start to get concerned, is when their new talent pool dwindles because “college” teams will pay a higher amount to keep players on their roster. Years of eligibility get extended because it could be ruled unfair to limit someone to 4-5 if they are also working towards a degree, which sounds stupid because it’s mostly no longer about academics, but I could see a case being made by a Duke, Rice, Vanderbilt, etc player.

I hate this new world. I have renamed my work’s “College FB Smack talk” MS Teams chat to “Young Professionals that play on a College campus smack talk”

So if they extend the number of years someone can play college ball, what kind of ripple effect does that have on high school players?

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

So if they extend the number of years someone can play college ball, what kind of ripple effect does that have on high school players?

Less opportunities/slots available...

 

[CB72]

No longer the sport i love.

Interest dwindling with each passing second.

 

[CB72]

Even if Bama had more money than everyone and signed every 5 star on the board and won consecutive national championships in a row i still wouldn't be happy about this situation.

 

[mlh]

I didn't mind the LANK stuff the first year, as a motivational thing for the players. And I didn't have a problem with the players making money off of the sale of T-shirts and other items. But it's become something much more pervasive and expanded beyond a motivational theme for that season. Now I'm just tired of it. In a lot of ways, it has created more naysayers than existed two years ago.

 

[davefrat]

So if they extend the number of years someone can play college ball, what kind of ripple effect does that have on high school players?

Well, Miami had a TE playing in his 9th year, so with NIL, we're probably closer to having people "retire" from college football than we ever could have thought.

Having a college football "career" may actually end up being a thing.

 

[CB4]

Well, Miami had a TE playing in his 9th year, so with NIL, we're probably closer to having people "retire" from college football than we ever could have thought.

Having a college football "career" may actually end up being a thing.

Cam Rising at Utah is pretty much the same case.
The courts have already stuck a couple of big time daggers into the NCAA with rulings on NIL and transfers. If the Pavia injunction is affirmed and cases are brought saying the NCAA can’t dictate eligibility (both initially and also in length) because it significantly impacts the marketability of the student-athlete (cough cough) in terms of NIL, then that would be coup de grace IMO.

The final stake through the barely beating heart of the NCAA.

 

[dxtide]

Yeah cause paying players has produced such better results huh?

Did I say that it did?

 

[dxtide]

You should post less often…

I'll do my best. Don't have the free time to post like some.

 

[dxtide]

“Grumpy” and “Old” are both relative terms.
I’m assuming the poster of the “grumpy old man” statement is either a yungen' and somehow tied to the LANK crowd either financially or emotionally.

And I suppose I qualify more than you since I have you by 22 years.

Not tied to LANK at all. Dont care one way or another about it...... Just gets old to see the same handful of posters yelling into the void and blaming the team struggles on the players involved with 0 credible information.....I don't know, maybe the team just struggled in general and had no tie to LANK, y'all don't want to hear that though.

"Yungin" depends on who your asking, almost 40, grew up in the 90s watching the team have some success but not like the stories I heard.........have been to at least 3 home games every season since 2003 when my family got season tickets so I have definitely seen the worst and best over the last few decades.

 

[dxtide]

THIS!

I can agree with that, I do miss how special CFB was in my childhood.

 

[Con]

Even if Bama had more money than everyone and signed every 5 star on the board and won consecutive national championships in a row i still wouldn't be happy about this situation.

I would learn to like it if this happened.

 

[The Ols]

Not tied to LANK at all. Dont care one way or another about it...... Just gets old to see the same handful of posters yelling into the void and blaming the team struggles on the players involved with 0 credible information.....I don't know, maybe the team just struggled in general and had no tie to LANK, y'all don't want to hear that though.

"Yungin" depends on who your asking, almost 40, grew up in the 90s watching the team have some success but not like the stories I heard.........have been to at least 3 home games every season since 2003 when my family got season tickets so I have definitely seen the worst and best over the last few decades.

You know you can skip posts…nobody’s forcing you to click on the strings. It’s a conversational board. The best/cleanest board on the www.
Many of us have been here for a long time.
There’s a bevy full of useful information garnered here…and also good conversation…if that’s not your gig, don’t read it?
Roll Tide!!!

Ols

 

[davefrat]

Not football, but Jim Larranaga (sp?) just resigned as head coach of Miami basketball for basically the same reasons Saban gave when he retired.

He said that despite going to the Final 4 last year, 8 players bolted from the program, not because they didn't like the coach, or school, or program or whatever...simply because they wanted more money.