My goodness Florida must be doing something right.

funnyman4ever

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I just looked at their updated recruiting class and they are ranked # 1 in the nation. It comes as no surprise since they have 6 five star athletes. It's been very frustrating for us losing 2 big prospects to them this year, but I feel that with another successful season we will start landing the big names.
Other than prime location, what is UM doing to land all of these huge recruits? Sure they had a good season and a nice win with the bowl but come on! Oh well I feel better now that I have vented some :)
 

babyray

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Its very strange. Not to be a hater but they had a mediocre year. Their head coach has just finished his first year in the conference. It doesn't add up at all.
 

bamaboy22

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UF Might have 6 Five Star Players but!

In my opinion you can have all the five star players you want but if you don't win in the trenches five star athletes are not all that great. Also I will take an underated athlete who can be coached well at his position and has alot of heart for his school anyday. I've seen heart win over talent alot of times in all sports not just football.
 

bamabake

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Schools like Fla dont play with the same reponsibility to history that Alabama players do. Some know about it before they get there some dont but it doesnt take long. When that crimson jersey is put on and they run out onto Bryant Denny and when the upperclassmen explain what is at stake on every play when you wear the Crimson jersey, well Fla just cant compete with that. I am very happy with what the Tide has accomplished on the field and with recruiting. Dont forget where we were just a couple of years ago. Maybe I am a glass is half full guy but Roll Tide !!
 

UA All the Way

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IMO Meyer's new offense is helping in his recruiting. Recruits see a coach who has done good things at his past schools and assume he will do the same at UF. I am more than a little skeptical though that it won't fly in the SEC. Meyer's is at best a 50/50 as to winning/failing in the SEC. If it is the latter I look for future classes to be far worse. But for right now recruits see a new coach with a new style and it is appealing.

Also I don't think that recruits really care for Alabama's tradition as much as alumni do. They weren't around during the Bryant era and really don't care. I think recent history plays a far more important role in a recruit's decision.
 

jblackb042

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There doing something wrong, you can bank on it. And the Myth will get caught, bet on it. There is no way they could legitimately get this number of 4-5 star recruits in one year. Heck USC won back to back national titles and was playing for a third straight and has not gotten this type class. Something smells down in Gainsville and eventually the blood hounds will pick up the scent.
 

CrimsonMask

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jblackb042 said:
There doing something wrong, you can bank on it. And the Myth will get caught, bet on it. There is no way they could legitimately get this number of 4-5 star recruits in one year. Heck USC won back to back national titles and was playing for a third straight and has not gotten this type class. Something smells down in Gainsville and eventually the blood hounds will pick up the scent.
As the cliche' goes "where there's smoke then there is fire" but in this case landing a bunch of 4-5 stars does not necessarily equal smoke. So before we start accusing let's just be smart and accept that maybe he is just beating everyone's butt in the nation landing recruits.

I believe that these kids are seeing that by year two at um's previous schools he had established his offense as elite. So they are buying the oil this snake oil salesman is selling for now.

The way you get recruits to quit going to florida is by constantly exposing the "spread" as a fluke offense that does not work in the SEC.
Unless last year was a fluke and um's offense DOES take 2 years to get going. If that is the case then everyone should get used to this butt whippin' in recruiting until everyone figures out how to stop them.
 

BamaFan1961

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CrimsonMask said:
everyone should get used to this butt whippin' in recruiting until everyone figures out how to stop them.
Was Texas Tech a spread offensive? If so then with the coaching staff we have I like our chances.
 

Mav^

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Florida is not playing dirty. It's all about who their coach is. To high school recruits, Urban Meyer is a high-profile coach, and young. For some reason, most recuits look at Meyer as a young coach with success, but still look at Shula as a young coach trying to prove himself. Florida has a history of being an explosive team who can score points quickly in all three phases of the game: offense, defense, and special teams. That aspect is appealing to many highly touted recruits. Alabama, on the other hand, showed that it does not have that quick strike capability, even though we were #1 in the NCAA for scoring defense. Go figure.

You can look at our offensive situation and look at it two ways. Either a recruit looks at our troubles on offense and thinks, "Hell, those guys need my help," or they could think, "Hell, those guys suck, they won't be a powerhouse for a while." It seems that some guys think the latter, and most people don't think that Bama is back. It takes consistency, and one year is not consistent. Until we can consistently rake in 10 win seasons, we're not going to get the high-profile players.

To be honest, I was not very impressed by today's All-star game. Most of those guys looked lost, and made a lot of stupid decisions. Jevan Snead looked the best today, with Tebow following. Mustain looked terrible. You never know what exactly a five-star means. Ryans, Roach, Darby, McClain, Garth/Simpson, and several others were all 2 or three star recruits, and they are all now very solid players. I don't think we need to have 5 five-star recuits every season to make a statement; I'm perfectly happy with our recruiting season thus far. You have to remember that we have four or five high four-star recuits coming in, and often those guys end up being the heart of your team. True, Texas's class of Vince Young had 6 or 7 five-star guys, and that definitely helps to have those superstars, but they also had about 15 four-stars as well.

Florida may be getting some big talent coming in, but that doesn't mean very much. You can only worry about Alabama taking care of business throughout the season, and if we can get even one more great season like this one, we will start to steal some of those big time recruits who would have otherwise gone to Florida. According to Rivals, our AVG star rating is 3.56. Texas's AVG star rating in 2002 (V. Young): 3.89. Texas 2004: 3.56. Not too bad to equal a recruiting class that Texas pulled in.
 

CrimsonMask

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BamaFan1961 said:
Was Texas Tech a spread offensive? If so then with the coaching staff we have I like our chances.
No disagreement here.
That is why I said "The way you get recruits to quit going to florida is by constantly exposing the "spread" as a fluke offense that does not work in the SEC. "
um is gonna win some games but I just don't think the "spread" will win you any MNC's consistantly.....if ever.

Oh and Mav^.....I agree with you completely. Snead did look the best and most did look lost today.
Keep exposing um's offense for what it is......a novelty offense that when posted up against superior defenses will crumble everytime.
 

CornBiscuit

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Everyone needs to forget about UF's recruiting class this year and remember about when we got the #1-type recruiting classes. Remember the Dubose years with Cottrell? We supposedly had the best talent but we never really did anything.

The way Shula and Co. recruit is to look at what we need at certain positions, not going after the #1 and #2 QB when we have 5 and not a 2* LB when you have 1. Sure you get the notoriety, but why don't you spend your time recruiting players that you need and that fit into your gameplan.

So what if these players Shula and Co. recruit aren't currently deemed as future All-Americans. If they fit together with other recruits and with the gameplan, that's the way to go. Recruit for the team, not for the sake of getting the #1 kicker that may have an attitude problem, a 1.2 GPA and a 9 ACT. We must look beyond the ratings and examine their characters closely. Only the ones the coaches deem worthy deserve to wear the crimson and white. It is worthless to go after the guys that may have great talent, but have character baggage.

We must let Shula do his work... I think he will prove his recruitment's worth to us on the field in these future years.

Besides, patience IS a virtue. ;)
 

Crimsonboxer

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Recruit for the team, not for the sake of getting the #1 kicker that may have an attitude problem, a 1.2 GPA and a 9 ACT. We must look beyond the ratings and examine their characters closely. Only the ones the coaches deem worthy deserve to wear the crimson and white. It is worthless to go after the guys that may have great talent, but have character baggage.

Is this point about the kicker Shoemaker! The Aubbie commitment?
 
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Why is it so hard to understand that Fla is a desirable school to sign with? They have a great all-around sports program, it's an academically good school.
It has a large student body with a high percentage of good-looking females in attendance. Fla plays in a high profile conference with lots of TV exposure. And their campus is in Florida!

Add to all that the fact that the campus is located in very fertile recuiting territory and the coach is by all accounts a charimatic guy. Very few 18 year-olds will think past bright lights, pretty girls and great weather. I'd be surprised if they DIDN't pull in as many 5 star recruits every year.

Remember, talent is only part of the equation, it's also how you coach them up.

:biggrin2:
 

BAMARICH

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Pat...

Good observations. Outside of our storied tradition, most people will say the very same things about us... why would a recruit want to spend four years in West Alabama... why go there when you could go to a perennial top-5 power like FSU, USC, OSU, etc. Just because CUM is having a banner recruiting class DOES NOT (I repeat does not!) necessarily mean he is dirty. USC has been on this boat the past three years... does that make them dirty? Besides what a few other posters have said, there's one other thing that CUM is selling... "you are MY kind of player." Right now, he is still trying to fit Zook's players into his system... and he has proven that he is not afraid to criticize them or even cut them loose if they don't adapt (ask Leak and Jackson about the first part of the year). CUM is able to tell these guys, "Look, the reason I didn't have that great of a season is because the guys I have aren't suited to my offense... on the other hand... you ARE suited to my system and you can be a star." Notice that immediate playing time is available and he has proven success with his system (albeat it out West)... tough combo to beat when it's UF. For once, give the man some kudos... he's definitely a great recruiter... we'll see about the coaching end of things (here's hoping he bombs in this area).
 

Mr Hogtown

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I'm happy to see that there are those on this site that can be rational about this. UF is an easy sell as is Bama.

I would say there are a lot of similarities between Shula and Meyer. Both are up and coming young coaches. Lots of energy, relate to kids well, etc. I think there is a chance those 2 will be facing off against each other fairly often in the coming years.
 

TiderFromTenn

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Not questioning UF recruiting, BUT

If they are doing wrong, bet your hard-earned last dollar that "Fat-Fulmer" will have Smokey's flea-infested tail in the air and nose to the ground sniffing the situation out considering UF and UT are both in the East.
 

IukAL

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also notice on Rivals.com

that they already have 29 verbals, and about 7-8 players short list. I'm afraid that they won't have several to qualify at those rates (Maybe Meyer knows that) and they are oversigning their 25.