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bamaman65

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I watched some of all games Saturday and everyone I watched had a more wide open offense and most had a qb that could run. I think it is easy to see why Alabama has trouble moving the ball with their simple straight ahead offense.
 
We scored at least 21 points in all our games, 4 games with 40 + points scored and averaged 35 points per game. Not to shabby imho.
 
Except for Oklahoma's offense, which looks somewhat like ours, but on steroids and in fast forward. And they were having an off-day...
 
Harmost said:
Except for Oklahoma's offense, which looks somewhat like ours, but on steroids and in fast forward. And they were having an off-day...
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We could run the diamond formation they ran last night. Our problem this year was not scheme but lack of execution.
 
BoroBama said:
We could run the diamond formation they ran last night. Our problem this year was not scheme but lack of execution.
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We have the personnel to occasionally run the Diamond Formation. Think QB Keeper, Pass, Trent crosses for hand off, Mark or Trent up the middle, Half back pass by Trent or reverse with Maize and Trent crossing in the backfield.
(I guess I've been looking ahead some to potential use of Diamond Formation for next year...)
This is the formation that could put two strong backs on the field at the same time, or even two speedy scat backs.
I see as much up-side to the Diamond as I do to the Pistol or wildcat.
 
I was thinking the same this yesterday. In watching several offenses this year - it just seemed like our offense just really underperformed this year. We know going in there 3-4 games where the offense was going to have to take the lead and it simply didnt.
 
BoroBama said:
We could run the diamond formation they ran last night. Our problem this year was not scheme but lack of execution.
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I dont think thats not entirely true. There were several occasions where something worked and it wasnt run again. For instance the maze td throw. It works to perfection in the fl game but not run again.

Also if Bama attacked every team like we attacked au in the first qtr(and continued to attack) we would have won every game.
 
BFANLC said:
I dont think thats not entirely true. There were several occasions where something worked and it wasnt run again. For instance the maze td throw. It works to perfection in the fl game but not run again.

Also if Bama attacked every team like we attacked au in the first qtr(and continued to attack) we would have won every game.
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I agree, but that's not scheme or formations. That would be play calling.
 
when everybody and their grandmother know what the play is by formation then unless you can dominate the los you are not going anywhere.the first third of the barn game we ran different plays from some of the same formations and dominated the last 2/3 of the game went back to same plays and got stuffed. if CNS is throttling the O then he needs to back off and let the OC run it with the understanding.
 
I agree with the OP, I saw a few games yesterday and I noticed some of those big old Ben Rothlisberger size QB's that could run & throw very well.
Those guy's probably don't grow on trees though.
 
Several coaches, the Madhatter was one preceding our game with them, that Alabama's offense played more into the style of defense LSU played and was much easier to game plan for. Coach Saban has even been quoted saying that he'd much rather game plan for a traditional style offense than a spread. But I think our offensive scheme is fine. I think its the attitude and mindset in which we run it that is the problem. You can tell when our staff panics. The play calling goes ultra vanilla ultra fast.
 
Bamabuzzard said:
Several coaches, the Madhatter was one preceding our game with them, that Alabama's offense played more into the style of defense LSU played and was much easier to game plan for. Coach Saban has even been quoted saying that he'd much rather game plan for a traditional style offense than a spread. But I think our offensive scheme is fine. I think its the attitude and mindset in which we run it that is the problem. You can tell when our staff panics. The play calling goes ultra vanilla ultra fast.
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Threads like this always give me the impression that the fans are the ones panicking.

I know it's great fun speculating about offense. Visions of giant quarterbacks running all over creation, spread offenses that go from sideline to sideline. Chess game tactics that suck the defense this way, while the speedy runner goes thataway. Long, vertical passing plays that go for TD's every third play.

What happens when someone gives Cam Newton his first knee operation -- and his second, and his third? We will never hear the end of the Running Quarterback Fantasy, but inevitably the knees of those guys undergo operations. It doesn't matter. To tell some people this is like telling them that they can't have cotton candy at the Fair.

No, running quarterbacks don't grow on trees. And just plain good quarterbacks don't grow on trees. Do we wonder why some of us, in the wake of the Cam Newton Season at Auburn, have now decided that the Running Quarterback is where it's at, and that Nick Saban's offense is officially a Covered Wagon?

I can't help it. It sounds to me like you people don't know what you are talking about. You win at football by playing sound defense and sound offense -- and sound special teams. That's how you win consistently. You don't win consistently by dreaming of bringing in Cam Newtons every year and running off-the-wall offenses like Auburn ran this year.

In all likelihood, Auburn won't ever see a Cam Newtin again. He will be a millionaire this time next year. Auburn never had another Bo Jackson. Auburn has won one national championship, and is trying for a second. Alabama has won 13, and never had a Cam Newton or a Bo Jackson. We just played Alabama football. That's what Nick Saban does.

You better be glad that Nick Saban is the Alabama football coach. We may not see his equal for decades to come. And as far as these candy-cane dreams of a Cam Newton-style offense, maybe you can get over them, once Christmas day has come and gone.

Of course, the resurgence of Michael Vick may be one reason for the resurgence of this Running Quarterback dream. Michael Vick, like Cam Newton, is a freak of nature. Are you going to put all your eggs in such a basket? These guys come around very, very rarely. Even Tebow was here, and then he was gone. Ask Urban Meyer.
 
Bamabuzzard said:
Several coaches, the Madhatter was one preceding our game with them, that Alabama's offense played more into the style of defense LSU played and was much easier to game plan for. Coach Saban has even been quoted saying that he'd much rather game plan for a traditional style offense than a spread. But I think our offensive scheme is fine. I think its the attitude and mindset in which we run it that is the problem. You can tell when our staff panics. The play calling goes ultra vanilla ultra fast.
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I have stated this on several occasions this season, even in games that we won. I wonder why there is never a corresponding change in the other direction when the ultra vanilla play calling doesn't work. It just appears that we stick with it even if it is obvious that the defense knows exactly what we are going to do.
 
BoroBama said:
We could run the diamond formation they ran last night. Our problem this year was not scheme but lack of execution.
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Well, I'll agree that our scheme (as in, the style of offense we run, the formations we use) isn't the problem...
 
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