Old LSU Game Question

TD4Bama

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Ok, What year was it when the LSU Defender pushed the Tide receiver down in the end zone and intercepted the ball and ran it back for a touchdown? If I remember it correctly Bama was going in for a TD late in the game to take the lead, but after the "NO-CALL" LSU had the lead cushion and won the game.
Well, this "phantom interception" is no different then that "no-call" and it can be summed up as Karma!
Sometimes the windshield, Sometimes the bug!
 

Van

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AGREED

I had to stop myself a minute ago... Even though I consider myself rather technically savvy I just spent the better part of an hour trying to freeze fram capture the supposed interception by peterson. I found the point in the video that shows julio touching the ball, his foot out of bouds, and no way peterson was in possession it literally hit his and Julio's hands at the same time. After an hour of unsuccessfully attempting to take the screenshot. I saw that Tide HSV had closed that thread, and it kinda sunk in.... I have to let it go or I will probably shoot, torture, and bury the next one of my LSU friends to mention this....
 

TideEngineer08

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Well it was 2004. Keith Brown was the Alabama receiver, and Corey Webster was the LSU defensive back. He did not return the interception for a TD, and in fact he was tackled around midfield and the Alabama defense forced a punt.

Alabama actually led at the time and a TD would give them a 2 score lead. This was late in the third quarter, I believe.

What it did do was flip field position. LSU went on to score twice later in the game to win fairly comfortably.

Ironically, Alabama was a team that had been beat up that year and we were starting Spencer Pennington, our third string QB, in that game. I know Ray Hudson had been lost for the year, and Ken Darby was already beat up due to taking such a pounding throughout the season.

Much like LSU this year, we simply didn't have the talent and depth to compete with them. And although the refs clearly missed that call, I have my doubts that we would have won even if we scored the TD.
 

GulfCoastTider

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That was in the third quarter in the 2004 game, but Webster (perpetrator) didn't take it in for the score. Later in the quarter, Pennington was tackled by Spears, fumbled, and Vaughn took it in for the score.

But, just like LSU's LOSS to Alabama in 2009, bad calls are a part of the game. They are like injuries and bad weather. It happens to everyone and it tends to even out.You either overcome those obstacles and win, or you don't overcome them, and lose.

Play enough Texas Hold'em, and you'll be dealt pocket aces about once every 220 hands. The odds are undeniable and you just have to deal with it. Even when you get bullets, how you play them determines whether you drag the pot or not.

We lost in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007 because LSU was the better team. LSU lost in both 2008 and 2009 because Alabama was the better team. They played better than we did then; we played better than they did since.

Forever and ever, Amen.
 

TD4Bama

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Well it was 2004. Keith Brown was the Alabama receiver, and Corey Webster was the LSU defensive back. He did not return the interception for a TD, and in fact he was tackled around midfield and the Alabama defense forced a punt.

Alabama actually led at the time and a TD would give them a 2 score lead. This was late in the third quarter, I believe.

What it did do was flip field position. LSU went on to score twice later in the game to win fairly comfortably.

Ironically, Alabama was a team that had been beat up that year and we were starting Spencer Pennington, our third string QB, in that game. I know Ray Hudson had been lost for the year, and Ken Darby was already beat up due to taking such a pounding throughout the season.

Much like LSU this year, we simply didn't have the talent and depth to compete with them. And although the refs clearly missed that call, I have my doubts that we would have won even if we scored the TD.
Well, It looks like that all I had right was it was the LSU and Bama Game. Thanks for the play by play and color commentary ;)
 

NC_Tigah

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AGREED

I had to stop myself a minute ago... Even though I consider myself rather technically savvy I just spent the better part of an hour trying to freeze fram capture the supposed interception by peterson. I found the point in the video that shows julio touching the ball, his foot out of bouds, and no way peterson was in possession
 

Van

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This picture is excellent for your argument. So is the other one on the tigerdroppings website of someone 'pushing' a defender in the back on the Julio play. Only two things though:

1st: This is about a half a second after Julio touches the ball. Julio and Peterson touch the ball at almost the exact same time (on my HD TiVo and 55in LG) . Yet this picture does show your guy in possession before going out of bounds, so congratulations, however, Julio touching the ball before Peterson has possession (possession is not the exact same millisecond it touches your hand), means the ball is incomplete.

2nd: Watching the video of Julio's touchdown at full speed you can clearly tell that there was no push, again you benefit from a still frame shot, but the video gives you a feel for the true nature.

Now when it comes right down to it,
this game has a very long history of very bad calls. ie matt caddells obvious catch a few years ago, in fact 3 calls that game that were overturned by the the Replay official. Karma sucks, i get it. it stings man, I know. Take off the gold and purple glasses and ask yourself truly how many holds you saw your offensive line get away with, and why Peterson looks down at Julio's feet a split second before their feet 'accidentally' get tangled.

I oersonally have had enough of the debate. We are college football fans in the South. God himself could have been the referee and some of us would still argue. Your team might have had a little bad luck on some calls, my team had some bad luck on non calls in the end I say Roll Tide mister Tiger man, thanks for the fun, my heart was pounding and I loved every minute of it.

BTW,
I am thinking of petitioning the SEC to be the first conference to eliminate officials on the field. Lets have them with hundreds of camera angles sitting on the sidelines with the best equipment money can buy.
 

bayoutider

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i AM NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO GIVE OUR LSU VISITORS SPACE TO CONTINUE THIS ARGUEMENT. THE PLAY STANDS, ALABAMA WON, QUIT CRYING ABOUT ONE CALL. YOU CERTAINLY DONT CRY WHEN THE CALL GOES YOUR WAY.

 

OreBama

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i AM NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO GIVE OUR LSU VISITORS SPACE TO CONTINUE THIS ARGUEMENT. THE PLAY STANDS, ALABAMA WON, QUIT CRYING ABOUT ONE CALL. YOU CERTAINLY DONT CRY WHEN THE CALL GOES YOUR WAY.

But Bayou. The call on AJ Green was totally legit. LSU has never and will never benefit from any officiating. :rolleyes: :D
 

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