Not sure what’s happening or if the US is causing this, but a free and open Cuba would be amazing…
Power outage, protests in Cuba
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Hopefully the Cuban people can take their country back if that is what THEY want to do.
It would really be pretty awesome for the Cuban people if they could embrace freedom and capitalism. Tourism could provide tons of jobs and help bring their country into the 21st century. No, it won't be perfect but would you rather have a job or just do nothing and be dependent on a government which doesn't have the capacity to care for it's own people. You can't feed millions on the money they make from cigars.
I wonder if they even know how to embrace freedom and capitalism? Its been 60-70 years since they had anything approaching freedom and capitalism.
The Cuban people are, by and large, a literate people. Many have nothing to do with their time but go to school. Capitalism would be a stretch, but some sort of path to economic competition and freedom would be wonderful. From my trips and acquaintances there I can tell you that this will not be a destitute island if the right steps are taken. I just hope there is a non-violent transfer of power from communism to whatever is coming next.
Cubans have lived in squalor since the Batista years and before. Castro supposedly taught them to read and gave them basic healthcare, albeit with a lot of rubles from the Soviets. But times have been lean ever since, and especially so since the fall of the Iron Curtain.
It's going to take a lot to overthrow the tyrants. I don't think a blockade is going to do it.
It's going to take a lot to overthrow the tyrants. I don't think a blockade is going to do it.
State Secretary Marco Rubio is moving closer to the deal that President Donald Trump is hoping for, USA Today reported.
I think Trump supporters and anti communists have this “once they see the light” beliefs with every enemy or hostile country. The truth is when we don’t let things fail on their own they tend to find the Americans as an enemy to rally against. Look at Iran currently. Trumpers have been posting non stop about the jubilantion of the Iranians when we kill the ayatollah. But where are those posts now? Ask the Japanese how interrupting mao’s rebellion ended up.
My point is that not everything goes like the Arab spring in overthrowing age old regimes. It usually takes a few generations of lesser leaders to get the people ready to revolt. But foreign intervention usually makes the regime stronger.
Israel has been wagging the US dog for decades. Think about it, they are a small, in the eyes of many, manufactured nation of a hunted people. Its not right but plausible for them to use all means necessary to keep the allied protection of the US including blackmail, extortion, and or propaganda. Probably the same with the Arabs in courting alliances with Russia and China.
The Mossad have an eye for an eye mentality and it is very easy to get sucked into their retribution. And more easily so if they have kompromat to use against you.
The Mossad have an eye for an eye mentality and it is very easy to get sucked into their retribution. And more easily so if they have kompromat to use against you.
Castro was a bad guy because he was a commie but it’s not like Batista’s Cuba was a bastion of freedom and probably the ones before him weren’t much better going back to Spanish rule.
I follow a couple of ex-CIA operatives on YouTube. John Kiriakou stated that the one spy agency he would never trust would be Mossad. They are single-minded, willing to sell themselves, their own, anything in the cause of Israel's continued existence. Ruthless. And he also said that they are that way because they have to be. Israel is surrounded by states and paramilitaries that would love to see them wiped off the face of the Earth.
I don't like what Israel is doing much of the time, but I also think we should sit out their squabbles. They seem to do a pretty good job of smacking their neighbors around when they threaten.
Poland would like to have a word with you.
Everything that President Obama was pilloried for when he tried to open up the country to US investment and involvement.
Well, save for the regime change.
But I'm taking $100 TideFan bets here that the same tyrants in Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran will still be there a year from now and beyond. If we aren't going to put boots on the ground, it's a fool's errand. Well, from my standpoint, it already is
I tend to agree, especially in the Middle East. The Islamic ideology doesn't do well with a representative democracy. Iraq has a slightly functioning democracy, but other than that there aren't many others. Turkey is authoritarian now. Lebanon might have a chance if Hezbollah wasn't there. Kuwait has some pretty solid governance in some areas. They are probably the most classically liberal country in the region. The best you can hope for in the region is an Egypt or Saudi Arabia style that you can work with.
Tbh Turkey has been semi authoritarian since atta Turk. The idea that the military is constantly compelled to save the “republic” just seems to be more of a shogunate security ruling in the background of a puppet government. Erdogan is just a guy that made enough friends in the military to prevent them doing it to him.
However Turkey is far more secular and semi progressive than most of the major Islamic middle eastern countries.
As a poor student of history, and a with a mediocre understanding of macro and micro economics, I root for the Cuban people to create a better hybrid of capitalism, socialism, liberalism, and politics than we have. Possibly a political/economic blend more like Norway or Finland, keeping much of their natural wealth for their people on the island while opening up business and freedoms of the press/business/politics/speech. But we all know the US won't allow a non-capitalist driven/democracy no matter what, unless (of course) we can strip their resources from them.
There's a lot of history there, and the US is deeply involved in creating the Cuban situation (being partly born from the Guatemala interventions) as well as the current situation in many of the Central American countries.
There's a lot of history there, and the US is deeply involved in creating the Cuban situation (being partly born from the Guatemala interventions) as well as the current situation in many of the Central American countries.
Cubans have had a standing joke for years:
What are the 3 successes of the Cuban Revolution? Medical care, literacy, and international athletics.
What are the 3 failures of the Cuban Revolution? Breakfast, lunch and dinner.
What are the 3 successes of the Cuban Revolution? Medical care, literacy, and international athletics.
What are the 3 failures of the Cuban Revolution? Breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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