QB Competition 2018

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We are going to take a step back next year. Our defense is getting decimated and we are losing our best WR and top 2 RBs. We are going to have to outscore everyone to have a chance at a playoff run next year. I don’t care who the QB is, I will pull for whoever gives us the best chance to win.
 
We are going to take a step back next year. Our defense is getting decimated and we are losing our best WR and top 2 RBs. We are going to have to outscore everyone to have a chance at a playoff run next year. I don’t care who the QB is, I will pull for whoever gives us the best chance to win.

Sorry, I don't see it. Your offense should be the best in the Saban era. Your defense will be stacked, though you will have to rebuild your secondary.
 
We can whistle through the graveyard, or we can just call it like it is. I've watched every game like all of you have. Hurts is not good in the passing game. He's average at best. He has his moments, but they are few and far between, and as Saban loves to say, the "consistency in performance" is not there from the passing phase of his game. We put him in as a true freshman because we had to, and he was able to do things that kept us winning games. We also had a once in a generation front 7 with great quality depth there, and also scored many points from defense and special teams. Down the stretch, our lack of converting 3rd downs, many times because our QB was quick to just tuck it and run, killed our defense due to exhaustion. Now our dilemma is that if we stick with Hurts for 2 more years (no, he's not going pro after next year - you think a single NFL team would draft him to play QB?), we'll likley have more QB's transfer again. It could even affect our recruiting of WR's who can't get balls thrown to them, and RB's who would like some of JH's carries. I know many other teams would love to have our "problems", but why do we keep playing a QB who we know is not a threat to throw it on the opposition, when we have one on the bench who can throw the ball much better and has much better pocket presence and field vision? What did JH have as a true freshman that TT doesn't have? Not saying that he's the magic wand, but he would at least keep the defense honest with the threat of the forward passing game.
THIS ^^^^ You have stated very nicely what I have been thinking all season. We need a legitimate passing threat at QB so we can utilize our great running backs far more often.
 
Sorry, I don't see it. Your offense should be the best in the Saban era. Your defense will be stacked, though you will have to rebuild your secondary.

Gone:

Fitzpatrick
Harrison
Averett
Wallace
Brown
Jones
Hamilton
Evans
Hand
Payne
Frazier

That is just on defense...

We have never lost that many players before. Add in a subpar recruiting year (by Bama standards), and we are most likely looking at 3 losses next year.

Frankly if we don’t have a dominant offensive line, this is all a moot point anyway...
 
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Gone:

Fitzpatrick
Harrison
Averett
Wallace
Brown
Jones
Hamilton
Evans
Hand
Payne
Frazier

That is just on defense...

We have never lost that many players before. Add in a subpar recruiting year (by Bama standards), and we are most likely looking at 3 losses next year.

some of those guys are juniors. just sayin.
 
Gone:

Fitzpatrick
Harrison
Averett
Wallace
Brown
Jones
Hamilton
Evans
Hand
Payne
Frazier

That is just on defense...

We have never lost that many players before. Add in a subpar recruiting year (by Bama standards), and we are most likely looking at 3 losses next year.
List the guys on defense with experience returning. I think that you will be pretty impressed.
 
List the guys on defense with experience returning. I think that you will be pretty impressed.

I don’t disagree, but you just don’t replace that much production/experience without growing pains. The only year that compares to this is 2010 and you saw how that turned out.
 
I don’t disagree, but you just don’t replace that much production/experience without growing pains. The only year that compares to this is 2010 and you saw how that turned out.

The only guys that you will struggle to replace are Fitzpatrick, Harrison and Payne. IMO, you have great players ready to step into all of the other roles. I used to think that SDH was going to be impossible to replace, but Mack may be even better. Thompson replaces Fitz, and he has played great down the stretch.
 
The only guys that you will struggle to replace are Fitzpatrick, Harrison and Payne. IMO, you have great players ready to step into all of the other roles. I used to think that SDH was going to be impossible to replace, but Mack may be even better. Thompson replaces Fitz, and he has played great down the stretch.

Assuming Buggs stays, he will replace Hand just fine. Hand never really panned out unfortunately. Davis has star potential also.

Wilson and Moses have the middle locked down with Miller and Lewis on the outside.

I’m not too worried about the front 7 overall. The secondary terrifies me though.

Again, our main problem isn’t QB or the OC. When your OL gets manhandled every other play, you aren’t going to win big games. If we don’t fix that problem, we aren’t winning anything of consequence next year.
 
List the guys on defense with experience returning. I think that you will be pretty impressed.


I sure hope we can recruit well for next year. Right now it seems we are not getting as much talent but that may change. It seems Kirby is getting some people we wanted, and I am sure Auburn is too. With all the coaching changes in the SEC, and the possible waiver the NCAA may give players from Ole Miss, maybe we can get some recruits to switch to Bama. We need some JUCO players too.
 
The only guys that you will struggle to replace are Fitzpatrick, Harrison and Payne. IMO, you have great players ready to step into all of the other roles. I used to think that SDH was going to be impossible to replace, but Mack may be even better. Thompson replaces Fitz, and he has played great down the stretch.

R. Evans going to be tough replacing also.
 
Not only does Hurts need to improve on going through his reads but he also needs to improve on pre-snap reads. I know he was trying his best but when he threw it to Ridley in the endzone Ridley had 3 defenders near him. Someone else was open. When he threw it, late in the game to Ridley and missed him, 4 was open for a Td. 4 was single covered while Ridley had multiple defenders in his area.
Different subject but not sure why no holding was called on au defenders. They pulled jerseys and pads all day long.
 
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What I continue to ask myself - with your RBs, why the heck would you want to run an RPO offense. It is stupid, IMO.

8 games into the season Alabama had 1400 yards rushing before first contact. Let that sink in. Those are unprecedented numbers. I don't know where you stood at the end of the year, but Bo's TD run yesterday - he was untouched. Your o-line was not just good at run blocking this year - it was great - the best in the country. And you are running an RPO offense?

What you need is a pocket passer and a run first offense. Period. If Jalen can handle the role as a pocket passer, great. If he can't, move on.
I would love to see our offense under Daboll be a simple pro-style, that goes no huddle when needed. Just run a pro 2 minute offense for the entire game.

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I say put Tua at QB, and move Jalen to slot receiver or something like that. I think he would be a great receiver. Jalen is obviously pretty tough, can take hits etc. I think he would be a hard to bring down receiver.
 
Jalen improved leaps/bounds from last year. Daboll did more for Jalen than Kiffin ever did in one offseason and one season. Give them another offseason to work together; Daboll will certainly learn from his first season as well. While the Patriots offense is designed to shapeshift essentially to the team that they are playing each week (in terms of their weaknesses), I still see them as a pass-first team. I think we need to run the ball more and more. There were definitely times against Auburn that the offensive line held up and Jalen just wouldn't throw the football (granted not knowing what the coverages looked like), but he also wouldn't run immediately. Maybe that changes next year. Hopefully that changes for the better next year.
 
Yes, he could. That sort of thing is just plain football ignorant.


Of course you are, you've been saying this since before Tua took a snap at Alabama. Clearly, no bias at all on your part...

I'm not saying there won't be a QB competition in a spring. Tua has earned that right. But I am sick of people literally just waiting for Hurts to fail so they can harp on it. I find it deplorable and the motives questionable. No one wants to talk about Hurts saving the game against Miss. State either.
Having an opinion = bias. Oh ok....

Please take this self righteous stuff out of here. Disagree fine. But don't question my motives or call me "deplorable" i rooted for Jalen all year. And gave him a ton of credit for some plays he made vs LSU and Miss state.

Apparently wanting a QB competition is a sin. I was unaware
 
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