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OT, but it doesn't deserve its own thread. Some of the men from Company E, in Band of Brothers, have written their own accounts. One is Bob Malarkey. After the miniseries, one of his earlier fraternity brothers commented that he'd spent four years in the house with Bob and never knew he did all that. Bob then remarked that "we held it in." That was my experience with my two older brothers. What I got from them was in response to specific questions, usually without much elaboration. However, I had a flashback to 1951, when I heard my brother wax voluble about his experiences. What's interesting, though, is the context. My brother was just selling his and his wife's "starter house" when the von Braun team moved to town and one of them bought it. Before the rocket people found Willi, the buyer, and his academic background, he was a Luftwaffe pilot, ME-109. My brother was a B17 navigator. It was fascinating, listening to them discuss the war, fighter tactics, etc. (The navigator is a parttime forward gunner on the B17.) There they were, hunter and prey, animatedly discussing battles as if they were video games, completely uninhibited. Like football games, Harvey would end up asking "who won?" Willi would reply it was because they were inferior in materiel. (Both were right.) Sorry for the length. I just wanted to get it out there. Sometimes, I feel like a living fossil, a link to the past which will soon be gone... :)
 

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OT, but it doesn't deserve its own thread. Some of the men from Company E, in Band of Brothers, have written their own accounts. One is Bob Malarkey. After the miniseries, one of his earlier fraternity brothers commented that he'd spent four years in the house with Bob and never knew he did all that. Bob then remarked that "we held it in." That was my experience with my two older brothers. What I got from them was in response to specific questions, usually without much elaboration. However, I had a flashback to 1951, when I heard my brother wax voluble about his experiences. What's interesting, though, is the context. My brother was just selling his and his wife's "starter house" when the von Braun team moved to town and one of them bought it. Before the rocket people found Willi, the buyer, and his academic background, he was a Luftwaffe pilot, ME-109. My brother was a B17 navigator. It was fascinating, listening to them discuss the war, fighter tactics, etc. (The navigator is a parttime forward gunner on the B17.) There they were, hunter and prey, animatedly discussing battles as if they were video games, completely uninhibited. Like football games, Harvey would end up asking "who won?" Willi would reply it was because they were inferior in materiel. (Both were right.) Sorry for the length. I just wanted to get it out there. Sometimes, I feel like a living fossil, a link to the past which will soon be gone... :)
Willi must have been a really good pilot, and lucky on top of that. Or the rocket guys got him before his luck ran out.

Not many German fighter pilots survived.
 
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OT, but it doesn't deserve its own thread. Some of the men from Company E, in Band of Brothers, have written their own accounts. One is Bob Malarkey. After the miniseries, one of his earlier fraternity brothers commented that he'd spent four years in the house with Bob and never knew he did all that. Bob then remarked that "we held it in." That was my experience with my two older brothers. What I got from them was in response to specific questions, usually without much elaboration. However, I had a flashback to 1951, when I heard my brother wax voluble about his experiences. What's interesting, though, is the context. My brother was just selling his and his wife's "starter house" when the von Braun team moved to town and one of them bought it. Before the rocket people found Willi, the buyer, and his academic background, he was a Luftwaffe pilot, ME-109. My brother was a B17 navigator. It was fascinating, listening to them discuss the war, fighter tactics, etc. (The navigator is a parttime forward gunner on the B17.) There they were, hunter and prey, animatedly discussing battles as if they were video games, completely uninhibited. Like football games, Harvey would end up asking "who won?" Willi would reply it was because they were inferior in materiel. (Both were right.) Sorry for the length. I just wanted to get it out there. Sometimes, I feel like a living fossil, a link to the past which will soon be gone... :)
There are a number of us here who sort of fit in to that territory. I grew up fascinated by the memorabilia and photos my Dad brought back from Europe. I grew up in an old rickety farm house yet we had many people stopping by because my Dad was quite a handy with anything electrical or mechanical. One night an older man came and recounted his experience in arriving in France in WW I. It is easy to recall that conversation some 60+ years later.
 
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There are a number of us here who sort of fit in to that territory. I grew up fascinated by the memorabilia and photos my Dad brought back from Europe. I grew up in an old rickety farm house yet we had many people stopping by because my Dad was quite a handy with anything electrical or mechanical. One night an older man came and recounted his experience in arriving in France in WW I. It is easy to recall that conversation some 60+ years later.
I didn't mean to diss anyone else's memories. However, I am a peculiarity. My father was born in 1895. My grandfather Self was born in 1860 and his father in 1822. When the Civil War and my family's role in it was discussed around the dinner table in the '40s and early '50s, we were talking about something only so far in the past as WWII is now. Most families squeeze in many more generations than that in the same timeframe...
 

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If you think the billionaires will approve...
They all show up in Washington swinging a big stick like they think they're Buford Pusser.

And then they all fall in line. As California Speaker of the Assembly the late Bob Moretti told then Democrat Ed Rollins (who ran Reagan's 1984 campaign a dozen or so years after working for Moretti), "Everyone can be bought. Every once in awhile you'll find one that's different, but you can usually rent those for awhile. You just have to decide if you're for sale or for rent."

And yes, folks, it's EVERYONE, I don't care who your favorite politician is. AOC and Bernie Sanders can be bought just as easily as anyone else.
 

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They all show up in Washington swinging a big stick like they think they're Buford Pusser.

And then they all fall in line. As California Speaker of the Assembly the late Bob Moretti told then Democrat Ed Rollins (who ran Reagan's 1984 campaign a dozen or so years after working for Moretti), "Everyone can be bought. Every once in awhile you'll find one that's different, but you can usually rent those for awhile. You just have to decide if you're for sale or for rent."

And yes, folks, it's EVERYONE, I don't care who your favorite politician is. AOC and Bernie Sanders can be bought just as easily as anyone else.
I guess what I'm asking is "Do you think the billionaires will approve AOC's executing the billionaires themselves?." Because that's what it seems you are saying.
 

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They all show up in Washington swinging a big stick like they think they're Buford Pusser.

And then they all fall in line. As California Speaker of the Assembly the late Bob Moretti told then Democrat Ed Rollins (who ran Reagan's 1984 campaign a dozen or so years after working for Moretti), "Everyone can be bought. Every once in awhile you'll find one that's different, but you can usually rent those for awhile. You just have to decide if you're for sale or for rent."

And yes, folks, it's EVERYONE, I don't care who your favorite politician is. AOC and Bernie Sanders can be bought just as easily as anyone else.
I once read a quote from a politician, which I hope was said as a joke, "He's honest. Once he's bought, he stays bought"... ;)
 
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I once read a quote from a politician, which I hope was said as a joke, "He's honest. Once he's bought, he stays bought"... ;)
The ones that can't be bought - the honest ones - either wind up getting clobbered in an election financed by a billionaire or quitting politics in frustration over the fact they're demanded (usually by their party or party's donors) to do more and more unseemly things in the name of service to the country.
 

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The ones that can't be bought - the honest ones - either wind up getting clobbered in an election financed by a billionaire or quitting politics in frustration over the fact they're demanded (usually by their party or party's donors) to do more and more unseemly things in the name of service to the country.
My late brother-in-law was the chief of staff for Claude Harris in the 1980s. I had numerous occasions where I saw Rep. Harris in a social setting. He was as honest as the days are long. I don't think he was owned by anyone. My BIL? Total scum. I wasn't too upset when he passed away a couple of decades ago. I don't know if it was his arrogance or the fact he fathered two children with other baby mamas while he was married to my sister.
 

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The ones that can't be bought - the honest ones - either wind up getting clobbered in an election financed by a billionaire or quitting politics in frustration over the fact they're demanded (usually by their party or party's donors) to do more and more unseemly things in the name of service to the country.
Whether one agrees with his positions or not, Ron Paul seemingly stayed clean and true to his beliefs over his political career.
 

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Trump: "I get along with Zelenskyy. But you know, I disagree with what he's done. Very, very severely disagree. This is a war that should have never happened ... I was a little bothered by the fact that Zelenskyy was saying, 'Well, I have to get constitutional approval.' I mean, he's got approval to go into war and kill everybody."
christ, what an idiot
 
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