Sadly we were outcoached again...

[MOAN]

I can't believe this is still being discussed.

Coach Saban and his staff put the players in a position to make plays and win the game.

Les Miles did the same thing.

Bottom line. Their players made plays in critical situations. We didn't.

We also made numerous mental mistakes.

It's not called armagadeon. It's called losing one football game. ONE.

Now we can continue this CNN, Fox News, Espn dissection of exactly whose fault it was that we lost ONE game, OR, we can do what fans are suppose to do and pull for the team against Mississippi State hoping the season works out as we hope.

Oh and by the way...Bear Bryant and his staff got out coached in every game he ever lost..because there is no way in hell that any team in history has ever beat us.

This is getting old. I'm almost embarrassed. Best coach in the nation and we're bashing his butt. 44-6 in our last 50 games.

Give ME a break!!!

When he leaves because of this crap.....just keep your mouth's shut. And I mean SHUT.

sip

No fan or amount of fans on here are going to make coach Saban quit! You can put that notion out of your head now! He don't give a damn what we think, ask him if you dare!

The thing about Bama fans that he knows is how passionate we are about Alabama football. He welcomes that I promise, the more the merrier! I think that is what makes Bama so great, passion! If you think we question the play calling you can bet he does!

We all are hurting and expressing it in our own ways whether it is questioning the coaches, the players, the fans or God for that matter! But we are all brothers and sisters of a greater purpose! The Alabama Crimson Tide! ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!

 

[skipster63]

Precisely. And maybe we should just hire Houston Nutt because he would be willing to put up with the fringe base of our fans that make silly posts about being outcoached. We seem to be the army that shoots our wounded.

I can't believe this is still being discussed.

Coach Saban and his staff put the players in a position to make plays and win the game.

Les Miles did the same thing.

Bottom line. Their players made plays in critical situations. We didn't.

We also made numerous mental mistakes.

It's not called armagadeon. It's called losing one football game. ONE.

Now we can continue this CNN, Fox News, Espn dissection of exactly whose fault it was that we lost ONE game, OR, we can do what fans are suppose to do and pull for the team against Mississippi State hoping the season works out as we hope.

Oh and by the way...Bear Bryant and his staff got out coached in every game he ever lost..because there is no way in hell that any team in history has ever beat us.

This is getting old. I'm almost embarrassed. Best coach in the nation and we're bashing his butt. 44-6 in our last 50 games.

Give ME a break!!!

When he leaves because of this crap.....just keep your mouth's shut. And I mean SHUT.

sip

 

[TheAccountant]

As I stated before, our punt coverage has been abysmal coming into this game. Why do you think the results would have been any different?
Again, what we did didn't work so it is easy to second guess and blame the decision to kick a FG. If we had punted and it was shanked, has happened this year on more than one occasion, or if they had a good return, has happened many times this year, many of us would be saying that Saban should have attempted a FG.
It kills me the way our fans act after a loss. We complain that we are to conservative and need to open it up. If I had a dime for everytime I have seen it posted that we need to throw out of the Wildcat I would be rich. We open it up people complain that we needed to just pund it up the middle. We throw out of the Wildcat, which the play was there but not executed, we complain about that.

Please try and justify trotting Shelley out to attempt a 50 yarder.

 

[MOAN]

Precisely. And maybe we should just hire Houston Nutt because he would be willing to put up with the fringe base of our fans that make silly posts about being outcoached. We seem to be the army that shoots our wounded.

Would you say Houston Nutt was out-coached or his players were out-executed as to the reason he is being let go for losing every SEC game his team has played this season?

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

Please try and justify trotting Shelley out to attempt a 50 yarder.

Ok.

LSU didn't score, even with the field position disadvantage. And if he makes it, we win the game 9-6.

That about does it...

 

[BAMA1979]

As I stated before, our punt coverage has been abysmal coming into this game. Why do you think the results would have been any different?
Again, what we did didn't work so it is easy to second guess and blame the decision to kick a FG. If we had punted and it was shanked, has happened this year on more than one occasion, or if they had a good return, has happened many times this year, many of us would be saying that Saban should have attempted a FG.
It kills me the way our fans act after a loss. We complain that we are to conservative and need to open it up. If I had a dime for everytime I have seen it posted that we need to throw out of the Wildcat I would be rich. We open it up people complain that we needed to just pund it up the middle. We throw out of the Wildcat, which the play was there but not executed, we complain about that.

A shanked punt from the postion that those field goals were attempted from would have finished inside the 20 yard line.

 

[Mamacalled]

Please try and justify trotting Shelley out to attempt a 50 yarder.

You are right. Because he used Shelley he was outcoached. That is exactly the reason we lost the game.

 

[Tider4653golf]

You people kill me...

It was this, it was that, it was coaching, it was this play, it was this player. on and on...

Don't you see that it was all of the above.

There were a hundred chances for a different outcome, and a hundred opportunities lost...

Pointing fingers and placing blame is like a cancer to a football program, so how about everyone taking a deep breath and realizing that everyone did their best.

The team and the coaches don't need this, they need our support.

Finally some logic!!! great post, 100% agree.

 

[Mamacalled]

A shanked punt from the postion that those field goals were attempted from would have finished inside the 20 yard line.

Wow a whole ten yard difference where LSU didn't score anyway.
We were outcoached yet we were in scoring position 7 times to LSU's 3. If we hit one FG out of the three missed in regulation we win. FG attempts from distances that Foster has hit before.

 

[MOAN]

Ok.

LSU didn't score, even with the field position disadvantage. And if he makes it, we win the game 9-6.

That about does it...

I think Shelley did make the tackle keeping the LSU player that recovered the blocked kick from returning the blocked kick back for 6! Great play on his part! Brings up memories of the "Punt Bama Punt" game with Auburn! With our defense that day, if we had only tackled the returner, then we may already have 14.

 

[MOAN]

Wow a whole ten yard difference where LSU didn't ove the ball anyway.
We were outcoached yet we were in scoring position 7 times to LSU's 3. If we hit one FG out of the three missed in regulation we win. FG attempts from distances that Foster has hit before.

If I remember correctly, it has actually been our kick off coverage that has been suspect all season not our punt coverage.

 

[Mamacalled]

If I remember correctly, it has actually been our kick off coverage that has been suspect all season not our punt coverage.

We have had issues with our punt coverage also. We have just been fortunate that we haven't had to punt the ball as much.

 

[TheAccountant]

Ok.

LSU didn't score, even with the field position disadvantage. And if he makes it, we win the game 9-6.

That about does it...

LSU nearly broke it back for a score and we were lucky they didn't. Shelley had no business out there attempting that kick at that point in the game. It was clearly out of his range and you know it. The chances of him making that kick was infinitely small.

 

[MOAN]

We have had issues with our punt coverage also. We have just been fortunate that we haven't had to punt the ball as much.

Good point!

 

[BAMA1979]

Wow a whole ten yard difference where LSU didn't score anyway.
We were outcoached yet we were in scoring position 7 times to LSU's 3. If we hit one FG out of the three missed in regulation we win. FG attempts from distances that Foster has hit before.

It would be a 20 yard difference at least and 20 yards of field position per missed field goal is a huge deal in a game where LSU barely had 200 yards of offense. Cade is 0-5 in his career from over 50 yards. I prefer to go with the percentages.

BTW, I'm not giving up on Cade's kicking ability, but some days you don't quite have it and when you don't you need to go to plan B.

 

[Mamacalled]

It would be a 20 yard difference at least and 20 yards of field position per missed field goal is a huge deal in a game where LSU barely had 200 yards of offense. Cade is 0-5 in his career from over 50 yards. I prefer to go with the percentages.

No, a 47 yard FG attempt would be from the thirty. If he shaked it and it went out about the 20 then the difference is ten yards. And the percentages? LSU was 0 for 3 on the misses.
I will add also, that the only FG he attempted in this game that was over 50 was in OT. In regulation, One was shorter, one was the same.

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

LSU nearly broke it back for a score and we were lucky they didn't. Shelley had no business out there attempting that kick at that point in the game. It was clearly out of his range and you know it. The chances of him making that kick was infinitely small.

It's common knowledge that a premium is placed on field position in defensive games, but so are points. At the time, LSU hadn't moved the ball at all. A 15% chance that Shelley gets us 3 there is worth the risk imo. tifwiw

 

[1Dawn]

I have to agree with others on this forum - enough already! We can dissect the game to pieces for days and weeks to come, but we still have games left and a part of our season left. I would not want to read this thread if I were a player or coach.

We have WON EVERY SINGLE GAME THIS SEASON BY A LARGE MARGIN, BUT ONE. Really, how sad is our coaching??? It's not. Please go and try and find a team who NEVER loses a game, ever!!!! I do recall more than one comment from Saban about UNREALISTIC expectations when he first arrived here. I think this is verging on unrealistic in the scheme of things. Bottom line is we have a great team with numerous wins who is lead by a great coaching staff.

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

I have to agree with others on this forum - enough already! We can dissect the game to pieces for days and weeks to come, but we still have games left and a part of our season left. I would not want to read this thread if I were a player or coach.

Then don't read this thread...

But do the rest of us a favor and stop telling us what is and is not ok for discussion.

 

[TheAccountant]

You are right. Because he used Shelley he was outcoached. That is exactly the reason we lost the game.

My reply was to your post alone, not to CNS being outcoached by Les. And for the record, I believe on a few plays CNS outcoached himself and it had nothing to do with what LSU called.

Since you believe every FG attempt was the correct call, I would just like to hear your reasoning on why trotting Shelley out there to attempt his career long by more than a few yds (which he clearly did not have the leg for) relatively early in the game was the best decision.