The Decline of the DNC III

[selmaborntidefan]

Honestly… too many people today don’t even know what Martin Luther King Jr did. Nor do they care to know.

No, he's like the veterans, everyone's mascot for their pet cause.
He's also the one sacred cow you're not allowed to touch in any critical way; were he anyone else, he'd be stripped of his academic credentials for his rampant plagiarism. Yes, even in death. Hell, Jimmy Swaggart just died and had the same extracurricular activities as King, but you're not supposed to mention those because "it doesn't change what he accomplished."

King was more controversial in his day than Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton Race Baiters have been in theirs. He gets a free pass - as does JFK - because he was murdered. It's like that starry-eyed revisionism that says "JFK would never have let the Vietnam War happen." Well....maybe.....but the folks who tell me "Hillary would have handled the pandemic better than Trump" always forget how well she handled Benghazi and an email account, too.

But then again, one thing I learned long ago is that everything wrong in the world began in the 1960s (if you're the Right) or the 1980s (if you're the Left), and neither one is based on reality.

 

[92tide]

Well....maybe.....but the folks who tell me "Hillary would have handled the pandemic better than Trump" always forget how well she handled Benghazi and an email account, too.

thats not a great analogy.

she would have utilized the vast public health/pandemic expertise we have in this country.

and fwiw, I trace the current gop silliness back to the 50s-60s birchers and Jim Crow advocates. raygun was just a symptom, much like w and trump

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Honestly… too many people today don’t even know what Martin Luther King Jr did. Nor do they care to know.

Btw, don't forget this: we have an entire generation and some Boomers, too, who REALLY, TRULY THINK they "saw the Miracle on Ice when it happened!" The only folks who saw it live were those in the arena that day in Lake Placid.

The game was shown that evening on ABC via tape delay, a device they once upon a time used to try and "give you the feel" of seeing an event that occurred earlier in the day "live." It worked in February 1980 - because CNN didn't hit the air until June 1. And ESPN was mere months old and couldn't get credentials to show highlights. And we didn't have phones everywhere. In all honesty, this used to be common. In fact, ABC used to show the Indy 500 "via tape delay" at 8pm after the race was earlier in the day. They would edit it down to two hours and show it as if it was live.

Look, I don't doubt there were literally millions of Americans who had not heard the score, who didn't know the outcome, who ASSUMED it was a live broadcast, although Jim McKay's intro made it obvious that something incredible had happened. TO THEM it was live.

But it wasn't.

People are convinced of all kinds of nonsense.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

thats not a great analogy.

she would have utilized the vast public health/pandemic expertise we have in this country.

I don't argue that point.

But the idea that she would have done better MANGING it, well, we'll never know. I'm inclined to think she PROBABLY would, but the fact is, she couldn't manage pressure when she was First Lady, and she couldn't keep from being part of the original lie about Benghazi, and she couldn't bring herself to squelch the email "scandal" in its crib - because she has the same problem admitting she screwed up that Trump does, even if her narcissism is not quite as malignant.

Democrats like Cuomo and Newsom, who came out with the "shut the country down for the rest of the year" (code for "until after the November election") wouldn't have done that with her running for reelection.

I think it's fair to say someone who can't manage an email account probably couldn't manage a pandemic, either - even if she did seek out expertise because she, too, would have wanted the country open a lot quicker than they were saying.

 

[75thru79]

I think it's fair to say someone who can't manage an email account probably couldn't manage a pandemic, either - even if she did seek out expertise because she, too, would have wanted the country open a lot quicker than they were saying.

As much as I dislike Hillary Clinton I have to give her a pass on the email thing. I think she was completely technologically illiterate, like a lot of people in her/our generation. I think she was misled by some junior staffers into thinking it was no big deal to buy your own email server, set up your own domain, and start sending emails through it for official government business. Only someone completely ignorant would try that.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

As much as I dislike Hillary Clinton I have to give her a pass on the email thing. I think she was completely technologically illiterate, like a lot of people in her/our generation. I think she was misled by some junior staffers into thinking it was no big deal to buy your own email server, set up your own domain, and start sending emails through it for official government business. Only someone completely ignorant would try that.

Except for the fact that she was using email to spy on her employees, whom she blamed for her loss to Obama in 2008. THAT'S what that was all about in the first place. That was thoroughly documented in Parnes/Allen's book "Shattered" about the 2016 election.

If she hadn't been BLAMING SOMEONE ELSE (noticing an issue here?) for her losing to a guy who was simply a better candidate than she was, it's doubtful any of this ever happens.

And technologically illiterate, I can agree with - but given it was always implied to us that this woman was the smartest woman on the planet, wiser than all of us, knew policy in and out...."Like a lot of boomers, I'm inept at computers" was NEVER gonna come out of her mouth.

 

[Huckleberry]

Sigh.

 

[92tide]

View attachment 51484

Sigh.

look mommy, i made a boom boom in the toilet

 

[jthomas666]

View attachment 51484

Sigh.

Perfect metaphor for the problem with Democratic leadership.

 

[75thru79]

Perfect metaphor for the problem with Democratic leadership.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Deranged Elie Mystal explains SCOTUS nationwide injunction ruling by describing how Trump could hatch a plot to m*rder people.

“Imagine Donald Trump wants to m*rder you…"

Totally sane, normal stuff going on over there at MSNBC.

Totally sane.

Totally normal.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1938991814545154381

Why do people keep giving interviews to this idiot?

 

[jthomas666]

Deranged Elie Mystal explains SCOTUS nationwide injunction ruling by describing how Trump could hatch a plot to m*rder people.

“Imagine Donald Trump wants to m*rder you…"

Totally sane, normal stuff going on over there at MSNBC.

Totally sane.

Totally normal.

Why do people keep giving interviews to this idiot?

I know, right? I mean, Trump can kill anyone as long as he claims to be wielding presidential authority--the injunction ruling has no bearing.

btw, the password is hyperbole.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

btw, the password is hyperbole.

Hyperbole is only effective when your audience is smart enough to recognize it for what it is (and that is decidedly NOT MSNBC's audience.)

 

[Huckleberry]

Hyperbole is only effective when your audience is smart enough to recognize it for what it is (and that is decidedly NOT MSNBC's audience.)

Whose audience is?

 

[75thru79]

Deranged Elie Mystal explains SCOTUS nationwide injunction ruling by describing how Trump could hatch a plot to m*rder people.

“Imagine Donald Trump wants to m*rder you…"

Totally sane, normal stuff going on over there at MSNBC.

Totally sane.

Totally normal.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1938991814545154381

Why do people keep giving interviews to this idiot?

That dude looks like someone from "The Capitol" vis a vis The Hunger Games.

 

[Bazza]

Perfect metaphor for the problem with Democratic leadership.

Yeah but these folks are making GOOD money off "whatever" they are doing....I'll let you say what that is.

I don't know why people don't see this. It's a money thing more than anyone REALLY wanted to do the right thing.

Then when someone comes along who may be a viable candidate - someone who most of the country could relate to...they are run out of town.

There's nothing anyone can do about this. Too much money - like health care - politics is now an industry.

I have too many things to enjoy in life and no kids who will inherit this BS. I feel sorry for others with kids or not as many things to enjoy. Gotta be tough.....

 

[dtgreg]

As much as I dislike Hillary Clinton I have to give her a pass on the email thing. I think she was completely technologically illiterate, like a lot of people in her/our generation. I think she was misled by some junior staffers into thinking it was no big deal to buy your own email server, set up your own domain, and start sending emails through it for official government business. Only someone completely ignorant would try that.

From what I have read, the Government servers were so compromised that Colin Powell told her to do what he did: "use your own". Such a tempest in a teapot. People are idiots.

 

[jthomas666]

Hyperbole is only effective when your audience is smart enough to recognize it for what it is (and that is decidedly NOT MSNBC's audience.)

Hey, just because you don't get it, don't assume everyone else doesn't.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Whose audience is?

Touché. This is precisely why i steadfastly refuse to watch any of it. When FN loses MTG, you know they’ve plunged over the cliff.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

That dude looks like someone from "The Capitol" vis a vis The Hunger Games.

Sounds like them, too. It would be easy to dismiss this doofus as the window-licker he sounds like, but I assure you, he knows exactly what he’s doing.