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bamadwain said:
Talking about Jeff Saturday, I heard him on a show Tuesday and to make it short he said that their is alot that goes into center position, calling line assignments, snapping and making your block, he also pointed out and I didn't see this live but Michigan put a nose tackle on Seth everytime because they knew he had trouble snapping, have him something else to think about
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No debating that center is the toughest position on the O line, and the most important- QB doesn’t get the ball, you got no play - I don’t care who’s at QB.
With the experience he had, barring literally a broken hand no one knew about, no excuses for his bad snaps. None.
What center with his experience DOESN’T know:
Priority one - get the ball in the QB’s hands
Priority two - call protections/assignments
Priority three - know who you’re guy is
Every center knows there’s always the possibility of having a Mt. Cody lined up against you. If it keeps you from carrying out Priority one, maybe you shouldn’t be a center. Saturday was covering for him - that cover won’t reach to all of his miscues for the whole season, and there were more than a couple.
As Stephen A.Smith said - talking heads can’t even name you centers on 99.99 percent of CFB teams, and there’s a reason for that: they don’t get the spotlight like SM did for his mistakes.
I’m glad he’s gone - I don’t wish him any bad luck. He wasn’t Bama’s only problem this season.
Kinda wonder who’ll pick him up, though; unless, like I mentioned, there’s a valid reason for his poor snaps.
Maybe it’s happened before, but I’ve never seen a center have such a bad season overall snapping the ball. One or two games, maybe. Certainly can’t remember Bama ever having one perform that poorly.
 
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I don't want to see Judkins at Auburn. He's good.
I think we read Seth had a hand or wrist injury earlier in the year. Recurrence of that in Pasadena ? I wish him well. I thought our OL play improved noticeably when he stepped into the starter's role.
QB play - I love Jalen, but this feels like Hurts/Tua, The Sequel. There seemed to be on the field frustration on the offensive side.
I had high hopes for Earl Little.
 
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Cruloc said:
Saban had to have told him something he liked.
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Like what? Why do you and others want to get rumors started? There is no evidence whatsoever Saban "Said something" to Simpson to make him stay. I mean..Like what? Simpson has said he loves it at Alabama. He likes the school, and likes learning under Nick Saban. What is it you think Saban may have told him? He's going to start him in September? Not likely. So what, then? Some of Y'all crack me up trying to say, "Saban had to say something!" No he didn't!
 
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Ledsteplin said:
Like what? Why do you and others want to get rumors started? There is no evidence whatsoever Saban "Said something" to Simpson to make him stay. I mean..Like what? Simpson has said he loves it at Alabama. He likes the school, and likes learning under Nick Saban. What is it you think Saban may have told him? He's going to start him in September? Not likely. So what, then? Some of Y'all crack me up trying to say, "Saban had to say something!" No he didn't!
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OK :rolleyes:
 
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Bamabuzzard said:
Again, I have zero information, but I truly believe TS was told (and he believed) there will be a legit open competition for the starting job and he has a good chance of getting it. I think both Saban and Rees know that as of RIGHT NOW the offense is limited with J Milroe behind center and until he shows he can develop out of those limitations, they have to keep their options open to getting the best player back there to run the offense. I just don't see a scenario where TS was told otherwise and he still decides to a stay.
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I agree 150%, especially with the way the QB situation went down. I am not Ty Simpson, however, I came away thinking that he didn't get a fair look in the QB battle. If I am thinking that, then you can bet the thought has at least crossed his mind. He'd have to at least believe that something was going to be different this time. To his credit, he's saying all the right things, and he's got a wonderful attitude about it, but I don't think.you can take his quote about waiting his turn like Mac Jones at 100% face value. He's got 3 years of eligibility left. He stays another year, and that becomes two, which is probably the minimum amount of years he's gonna want to have as a starter. We have Julian Sayin waiting in the wings, so for him to return this year with the intention of becoming the starter in 2025, it would be a bit of a risk. If Sayin wins the job, then Simpson only has one year of eligibility elsewhere to prove that he is an NFL QB.
 
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landonew said:
My point is that popularly held opinions on Tidefans (mine included) do not necessarily reflect the opinions of CNS and his staff or other analysts who do this on a professional basis. Did you know that Alabama Football employs eleven "film analysts" who prepare All 22 quality film breakdowns for CNS and his staff to review? They have access to film from every game, scrimmage, and practice the players participate in? Read this article -> Link.
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Of course I knew that. It's nothing new.

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With that in mind, do you honestly think we're "observing" critical things that the coaching staff is "missing"? I'm skeptical. I think it's much more likely that we're forming biased opinions from incomplete information. Also, if open QB1 competitions are important, then doesn't the player that's ultimately named QB1 deserve the benefit of the doubt? Or is it only if it's the player you happened to back leading up to the decision?
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I'm actually sure we're not seeing anything new or that the staff is missing. I'm sure the staff knows exactly what the challenges and limitations are and have worked to try to correct them, not just for JM but also likely for TS (we just don't have a body of work for TS to see like we do for JM). If they were happy with the situation the QB competition would have ended way earlier and they wouldn't have brought in the transfer.

landonew said:
In terms of JM related comments. There's a difference between improvement and perfection. The All 22 film demonstrates at least some degree of improvement (at least according to the Analysis). Hopefully that's something he can continue to build on during the offseason.
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That analysis is from a reporter, not coach or a prior coach or an analyst. The reporter has an opinion, nothing more (for the record - my take is also just an opinion; neither the reporter nor I really know the play called). I disagree with his opinion in the video you posted as I don't see any indications of what he claims is happening. The most glaring issue with the reporters claim is that IF it was some type of read that JM made, what would he have done had the play side Safety NOT rolled up and stayed in 2 deep? Making a read implies JM had some other choice he could have made had the 2 deep coverage stayed in place, but there was no other option on that side of the field for him to make a different read to as no other receivers went downfield on that side. Therefore, to me it seems most likely that CTR called a shot play, and knew that based on our formation it was somewhat likely TAM would rotate the coverage since we had the RB and a TE over there, even though neither went into the pattern (the reporter even mentions how they're over there covering no one).
 
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twofbyc said:
No debating that center is the toughest position on the O line, and the most important- QB doesn’t get the ball, you got no play - I don’t care who’s at QB.
With the experience he had, barring literally a broken hand no one knew about, no excuses for his bad snaps. None.
What center with his experience DOESN’T know:
Priority one - get the ball in the QB’s hands
Priority two - call protections/assignments
Priority three - know who you’re guy is
Every center knows there’s always the possibility of having a Mt. Cody lined up against you. If it keeps you from carrying out Priority one, maybe you shouldn’t be a center. Saturday was covering for him - that cover won’t reach to all of his miscues for the whole season, and there were more than a couple.
As Stephen A.Smith said - talking heads can’t even name you centers on 99.99 percent of CFB teams, and there’s a reason for that: they don’t get the spotlight like SM did for his mistakes.
I’m glad he’s gone - I don’t wish him any bad luck. He wasn’t Bama’s only problem this season.
Kinda wonder who’ll pick him up, though; unless, like I mentioned, there’s a valid reason for his poor snaps.
Maybe it’s happened before, but I’ve never seen a center have such a bad season overall snapping the ball. One or two games, maybe. Certainly can’t remember Bama ever having one perform that poorly.
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So you are correct that there certainly are people that can play center and play the position well. But I'll put money that there are more people that can functionally play the other O Line positions than can functionally play center. How many plays do you see a guard or a tackle either completely whiff on a block, or just flat out get beat physically trying to make a block? It happens all the time....well the only job those guys have is to make a block....that's it, nothing else. Add making the line calls, and making a good snap to those duties....Add to that the NG is usually one of the bigger/stronger guys on the opposing D Line. It's hard enough to play the position while taking snaps from under center....adding the shotgun element to the equation makes it even more difficult. Obviously it's not an impossible situation because that are plenty of people that do it...but don't think for one second it's an easy position to play. I understand these guys are high level players, and they are on scholarship because of those talents...but those guys on the D-Line are on scholarship too. So while I was disappointed in the bad snaps throughout the year, I also know it's really not as easy as it looks....And it dang sure isn't as easy as a bunch of folks on this board make it sound....since I'm sure everyone on here that are taking shots at the guy have actually tried to play the position.....
 
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