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jordan92

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game was fixed that is as easy as i can put it ucla mugged gonzaga several plays with no calls cbs announcers should be fired for their ucla bias
 
You aren't kidding, those CBS guys had an amazing UCLA tilt in that game. They would complain about every uncalled touch foul the Zags did, but wouldn't say a word about how the game apparently turned into a street brawl for the UCLA guys in the second half. On the game winning play for UCLA a foul should have been called when they were putting a little to much push on Morrison in the corner and also on that strip of Batista. Of course, the Zags could have ended that game if their offense was able to have scored once or twice in that last four minutes when they were playing "to not lose" instead of to win. UCLA was clogging the paint, did you seriously think that running the shot clock and letting Morrison improv was going to work for the last five minutes of a Sweet 16 game? Run set plays...they were working for the first 35 minutes!
 
IMO, this is the state of the game today. The zebras decide who wins each game by arbitrarily calling fouls on the team they decide will lose.

An example would be Duke's entire season. They made over 50 more free throws than their opponents attempted.

I rarely watch basketball except when Bama is playing and even then it is difficult to watch due to the disparity of what constitutes a foul for one team against the other.
 
Maybe I'm biased because I was pulling for Ucla but the commentators pointed out the bad calls that ucla was getting called against them.I saw bumps going both ways towards the end. I'm glad gonzo and big baby morrison are gone. I've never seen a player like bbm before. He is spoiled rotten and shows bad sportsmanship. If my kids acted like that while playing a game I would pull them both. I just wish it had been Bama handing the loss to them , it would have been even better.With duke losing , gonzo's loss was just icing on the cake. I was almost giddy.
 
I had no rooting interest in the game. I was glad to see UCLA make the charge late in the game (just to see some excitement). I agree that the guys calling the game on CBS were VERY biased toward UCLA.

All that having been said, UCLA made some clutch shots in the last minute while Gonzaga missed everything - with Morrison missing all 3 of his shots. In the last 20 seconds, all Gonzaga needed to do was get the ball past midcourt, then let UCLA foul. They got so concerned about trying to run out the clock that they let the ball get stripped, giving UCLA the chance that they needed.

Yes, Gonzaga choked, but UCLA still had to hit those shots (ALL of them) or it would have been meaningless.
 
capstonestan said:
IMO, this is the state of the game today. The zebras decide who wins each game by arbitrarily calling fouls on the team they decide will lose.

An example would be Duke's entire season. They made over 50 more free throws than their opponents attempted.

I rarely watch basketball except when Bama is playing and even then it is difficult to watch due to the disparity of what constitutes a foul for one team against the other.
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Oh no! :eek2:

Not the infamous NCAA/Notre Dame/Duke/UCLA conspiracy. C'mon the bottom line during a game is whether or not your team "makes the plays" or doesn't "make the plays! As a team you control dribbling, passing, shooting and playing defense. Duke and Gonzaga didn't "make the plays" when they needed to and they lost! I really hate they "if we can't beat'em they must be cheatin' mentality!

Wasn't one of those officials on the grassy knoll? ;)
 
No conspiracy! Just lousy interpretation of rules! I quit following b-ball much a long time ago. The game has gotten totally out of control with guys rougher than some football players crashing into each other and if no one is killed there is no call. Then back on the other end of the court---oops he breathed on me and a whistle.

I grew up playing the game and apparently I have little or no understanding of it as it is played now.
 
It is a different game now so the rules have just adjust to better athletes. How can there be no "conspiracy" if your premise was about Duke getting more foul shots during the season and UCLA being allowed to "comeback"? The officials do not decide on who wins the game. Not trying to be arguementative, but what exactly was the just of your statement?

The zebras decide who wins each game by arbitrarily calling fouls on the team they decide will lose.
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All it takes for a conspiracy is two people. Driving to the basket and drawing the foul is an intregal part of the game. An aggressive offensive team is taught to do that and I have to believe that Coach K teaches that premise of the game as all good coaches should.
 
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The Duke comment was just an observation of a stat that I had just happened to read. I really haven't watched 2 minutes of a Duke game all year. I do think they have a good program and have nothing against them.

I guess the whole point is I don't enjoy the game like I did when I was younger. It is too rough and they go from "letting them play," to really picky. What rules are enforced? Everybody travels, 3-second violations are rarely called, people like LSU's Davis just lower their heads and go for the basket despite whoever might be planted in their way.

ld, it is not my intent to argue with you. I have read enough of your posts that I actually admire what you are doing. I know you coach basketball. I did it once myself. Mostly coached a lot of baseball and softball. Basketball has apparently passed me by. I wind up screaming at the TV when Bama is playing (did you see the 2nd half of the Ark. game?) And I don't like myself like that. When I watch games where I have no attachment to either team, I often feel like one team is receiving an advantage. At any rate, it was not my intention to step on the toes of a basketball fan, I just have difficulty with the sport as it is played today. Sorry for the rants.
 
CapstoneStan said:
The Duke comment was just an observation of a stat that I had just happened to read. I really haven't watched 2 minutes of a Duke game all year. I do think they have a good program and have nothing against them.

I guess the whole point is I don't enjoy the game like I did when I was younger. It is too rough and they go from "letting them play," to really picky. What rules are enforced? Everybody travels, 3-second violations are rarely called, people like LSU's Davis just lower their heads and go for the basket despite whoever might be planted in their way.

ld, it is not my intent to argue with you. I have read enough of your posts that I actually admire what you are doing. I know you coach basketball. I did it once myself. Mostly coached a lot of baseball and softball. Basketball has apparently passed me by. I wind up screaming at the TV when Bama is playing (did you see the 2nd half of the Ark. game?) And I don't like myself like that. When I watch games where I have no attachment to either team, I often feel like one team is receiving an advantage. At any rate, it was not my intention to step on the toes of a basketball fan, I just have difficulty with the sport as it is played today. Sorry for the rants.
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Sometimes I catch myself yelling too during a Bama game (because I am a Bama fan) and it is hard for me to detach myself. Officials have one of the hardest jobs in the world especially if they can't keep up with the athletes. They end up missing a lot. Last Night during the Duke game I often found myself saying "They are camping out in the lane!" Both teams.

Different parts of the country play different styles. Some more physical, other rely on speed. It all depends on philosophy and style. The Refs have to adjust their calls with such a diverse field. We see the same thing during Bowl season in football.

I was watching the FSU/USC game the other night and USC won because they made FSU play their style of basketball (Ugly, but it works!) I guess the bottom line is that the officials have a tough job and I don't see them "cheating" for one side or the other.

It's a forum we are allowed "rants" every once in a while! :)
 
CapstoneStan said:
An example would be Duke's entire season. They made over 50 more free throws than their opponents attempted.
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First of all, let it be known that i'm a die-hard Bama Basketball fan, always have been, and despise the Dukies.....but.....before we use the made 50 more than their opponents as a sign of bad officiating.....

TEAM STATISTICS UA OPP
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SCORING.................. 2178 2094
Points per game........ 70.3 67.5
Scoring margin......... +2.7 -
FIELD GOALS-ATT.......... 758-1662 778-1829
Field goal pct......... .456 .425
3 POINT FG-ATT........... 174-505 238-672
3-point FG pct......... .345 .354
3-pt FG made per game.. 5.6 7.7
FREE THROWS-ATT.......... 488-689 300-441
Free throw pct......... .708 .680

We made 47 more than our opponents took this season!!
Ouch!
 
Cajun, I have tried to remove myself from my unfortunate example and apparently I either failed or you didn't read. As I stated earlier the game has passed me by. I don't like how it is played today. If you were watching last night, UConn got away with a goal-tending where the ref absolutely swallowed his whistle. Of course had the big Wash. kid not fouled late in regulation (a clear foul that was called), Wash. wins game over. However those kind of calls either wierd or non-existant have ruined this once fine game for me. I am sorry if that offends and I am sorry I even brought it up. As to Bama or Duke shooting free throws, I am aware there are other factors than zebras, although if you watched the second half of the Ark. game it would make one wonder.
 
Hey, wasn't criticizing.....just noting that we play a style that encourages not fouling, but we get fouled alot because we force it inside.......
 
ucla vs memphis

my newspaper said that that ucla shot 39 frree throws to memphis 15 thats a little much for a 5 point game cbs had ucla set to go b4 the tournament even started oh well after the gonzaga game i dont watch the fixed mess anymore
 
Idlane,

What rules did they have to change to accomodate the "better athletes" of today? If an athlete is better, wouldn't he be better regardless of the rules? I'd love to see today's athletes have to actually dribble the ball instead of palming it and carrying it. In the old NBA, most games were usually in the 110-125 point range in spite of having to dribble the ball. Shooting percentages were also higher, or darn sure seemed to be. Auerbach's Celtics circumvented dribbling too, it wasn't unusual to see them fast break the length of the court without the ball ever hitting the floor. You don't see passing like that in today's NBA.
 
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