Voting discussion thread

[CrimsonJazz]

No one is saying there aren't things that slip through. What we sane people have been screaming since 2020 is that there are not enough of these issues to even come close to changing the outcome of an election. There is no voter fraud on such a massive scale that would have flipped the results in 2020. These are just facts. Trump has convinced you guys to believe in a lie.

You want to rip apart the most secure, safe, and fair voting system in the world because Trump lost in 2020, and the crybaby can't deal with it.

As I've said a gazillion times now, I lost my faith in our elections back in 2000. Listening to Dems whine from 2016-2020 did nothing to restore my faith in it.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Rep. Rachelle Smit says a deceased voter she removed from local rolls was later added back and mailed a ballot application, raising new questions about voter roll maintenance.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031049712619675692

This lady? THIS is the source who has the missing 18 1/2 minutes of the Watergate tape????

Michigan’s elections committee to be led by former clerk who believes 2020 was stolen

Rachelle Smit said her priorities include passing a constitutional amendment requiring voters to provide proof of citizenship.

www.votebeat.org

 

[selmaborntidefan]

If you are going to cheat, and I'm not accusing anyone of cheating, you have to do the cheat BEFORE the ballots are delivered to the voting authorities. Once the ballot is cast the controls are pretty robust and there is little to no cheating being done. Voter rolls, dead and/or moved voters, mail-in balloting. This is where the real cheating potential comes into play and most controls in place are inadequate to catch anything.

And if you claim that the number of VOTES exceeds the NUMBER OF VOTERS - which Giuliani did because he looked at the wrong lines - it's pretty damned easy to show the county vote population and produce the actual ballots, too.

I again hasten to add that Trump's lawyers were VERY CAREFUL to never actually come out and make allegations in their court filings that would get them disbarred. They didn't allege "a did b, we can prove it," they basically played a lot of misdirection and blowhard claims for the press to repeat to the cult.

I'm still trying to figure out how the Democrats did this when they couldn't even create a functional app in the Iowa caucus the same year. Or why they were able to steal the Presidency in 7 select states but lost House seats and left two Senate seats in Georgia to the risk of runoffs.

 

[Bazza]

Almost didn't recognize Schumer.......that voice though is pretty distinctive...lol....

https://twitter.com/x/status/2030713275587965175

 

[crimsonaudio]

What an odd thing to say…

Schumer on the Save America Act: “It allows ICE to kick tens of millions of people off the voter rolls!”

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031498178135052781

 

[CrimsonJazz]

What an odd thing to say…

Schumer on the Save America Act: “It allows ICE to kick tens of millions of people off the voter rolls!”

Once again, saying the quiet part out loud goes completely unnoticed by the media. These guys have gotten way too comfortable with this sort of thing.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Once again, saying the quiet part out loud goes completely unnoticed by the media. These guys have gotten way too comfortable with this sort of thing.

"We're getting close to the phase in gaslighting where they start saying, "Yes, illegal aliens have been voting all along and it is good for us.""

 

[DzynKingRTR]

What an odd thing to say…

Schumer on the Save America Act: “It allows ICE to kick tens of millions of people off the voter rolls!”

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031498178135052781

It is like calling the cops when someone steals all your illegal drugs.

 

[Its On A Slab]

What an odd thing to say…

Schumer on the Save America Act: “It allows ICE to kick tens of millions of people off the voter rolls!”

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031498178135052781

What if they are legalized citizens, but thrown off the rolls by the bumpkins running ICE/Homeland Security because they have a vowel at the end of their last name, and they don't look 'Murcan enough?

 

[crimsonaudio]

What if they are legalized citizens, but thrown off the rolls by the bumpkins running ICE/Homeland Security because they have a vowel at the end of their last name, and they don't look 'Murcan enough?

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Republicans Warn Passing Voter ID Law Could Ruin Plan To Hand Congress To Democrats In November

WASHINGTON, D.C. — With the 2026 midterm elections on the horizon amid increasing strife over problems facing the nation, Republican lawmakers issued an urgent warning that passing a national voter ID law could ruin their plan to hand Congress to the Democrats in November.

babylonbee.com

While President Trump and his administration continued to apply pressure to congressional GOP leaders and stress the importance of passing voter ID legislation, Republicans expressed concern that such a move could potentially spell doom for their goal of losing both the House and the Senate to Democrats this fall.

The frightening thing is: this doesn't even feel like satire.

 

[Huckleberry]

What an odd thing to say…

Schumer on the Save America Act: “It allows ICE to kick tens of millions of people off the voter rolls!”

https://twitter.com/x/status/2031498178135052781

 

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2032499595557711907

Your friendly reminder from Kevin Walling that every Democrat in the House voted for National Voter ID included in the Freedom to Vote Act. Not one Republican voted for it. The SAVE Act isn’t about Voter ID, it’s a voter suppression bill to help rig the midterms for Republicans.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Your friendly reminder from Kevin Walling that every Democrat in the House voted for National Voter ID included in the Freedom to Vote Act. Not one Republican voted for it. The SAVE Act isn’t about Voter ID, it’s a voter suppression bill to help rig the midterms for Republicans.

Also a friendly reminder that the 'Freedom To Vote Act' allowed one to register to vote with as little as a utility bill, no part of it was about proving citizenship.

Not that accuracy matters to some, just thought I'd point out these two bills are about different (almost literally opposite) things.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

The SAVE Act isn’t about Voter ID, it’s a voter suppression bill to help rig the midterms for Republicans.

Nope, there is no way the SAVE Act can affect the mid-terms, even if it passed tomorrow. There simply isn't time and even if there was, there are probably 15 states ready to sue the moment it dropped. Every blue judge in the country would be granting immediate injunctions and it will be tied up in the courts forever. IMO, this is about 2028 and always was.

 

[92tide]

again, there is no widespread fraud or “rigged” elections or “illegals” voting in democrats. that is a pernicious lie that continues to get repeated in service to an idiot who can’t stand to lose

 

[Huckleberry]

Also a friendly reminder that the 'Freedom To Vote Act' allowed one to register to vote with as little as a utility bill, no part of it was about proving citizenship.

Not that accuracy matters to some, just thought I'd point out these two bills are about different (almost literally opposite) things.

It never claimed to be about proving citizenship. It made it easier for Americans to exercise their constitutional right to vote, which is certainly the opposite of what the SAVE Act does.

Republicans and conservatives continue to mischaracterize SAVE as the Voter ID that the great majority of Americans support. If Voter ID is indeed the issue, then make it free and easy for all Americans to get. Of course, we know that’s not what it’s about.

 

[75thru79]

It never claimed to be about proving citizenship. It made it easier for Americans to exercise their constitutional right to vote, which is certainly the opposite of what the SAVE Act does.

Republicans and conservatives continue to mischaracterize SAVE as the Voter ID that the great majority of Americans support. If Voter ID is indeed the issue, then make it free and easy for all Americans to get. Of course, we know that’s not what it’s about.

Free or easy? Free I wholeheartedly agree with but free and easy are entirely two different things. If you want to make it easy then let the government put an app in the Apple and Android app store and let people vote using it. Sounds great, right? Then how do we keep cyber hackers out and better yet, convince the American voters that it is secure? Voting doesn't need to be "easy". It needs to be reasonable. Getting a drivers license isn't easy either nor is getting a tag for your car. It needs to be secure, number 1 and then only require as much effort as is reasonable given the importance of a secure and reliable election.

 

[Huckleberry]

Free or easy? Free I wholeheartedly agree with but free and easy are entirely two different things. If you want to make it easy then let the government put an app in the Apple and Android app store and let people vote using it. Sounds great, right? Then how do we keep cyber hackers out and better yet, convince the American voters that it is secure? Voting doesn't need to be "easy". It needs to be reasonable. Getting a drivers license isn't easy either nor is getting a tag for your car. It needs to be secure, number 1 and then only require as much effort as is reasonable given the importance of a secure and reliable election.

It’s going to be hard to convince some Americans that elections are secure when leaders constantly claim fraud whenever they lose. The reality is that our elections are already remarkably secure and reliable.

I’m all for reasonable safeguards to prevent ineligible people from voting, but those conditions shouldn’t make it easier for some Americans than others to exercise their constitutional right. That’s the concern with the SAVE Act. If the government requires documentation to vote, it needs to make sure every eligible citizen can reasonably obtain it without unnecessary barriers.