What is the "push off rule" for receivers? ...didn't it look like....

[BAMAfan777]

What is the rule regarding how a receiver can use his hands to push off a DB during a reception attempt?

It was COMPLETELY evident that Jeffery pushed off on Milliner on one touchdown reception...completely evident, and no call...I can't believe Milliner didn't complain, that's how green he is.

Anyway, does anyone know what the official rule is there?

Also, was I imagining it, or did it almost seem as though the refs were getting caught up in the spirit of the scu upset moment on some of their calls? It's almost like Bama became the Goliath that everyone in the nation wanted to see drop (that I do know!).

 

[hartleyb]

I thought he pushed off as well...ticked me off that he simply played it off as though it didn't happen. JA/KJ from last year didn't mind roughing it up and laying the wood. Both him and Dre need to get in the weight room and become more physical corners. Although, I have to admit that Dre IMO has improved over the course of the season.

 

[BAMAFAN61]

I'm glad someone else noticed that. I was screaming at my TV set after I saw the pushoff on the TD that put us down 21-3.:mad2:

 

[CapstoneGrad06]

I'm glad someone else noticed that. I was screaming at my TV set after I saw the pushoff on the TD that put us down 21-3.:mad2:

Milliner was just beat on that play.

 

[southface]

Bull crap on getting beat. Yes he was behind him but not much as is the case on most run to the post plays. Jeffery pushed off to get the separation to make the catch. The other two great catches by the SC guy were simply awesome. Nobody stops those.

 

[Craxycat]

It really don't matter either way...we should never have been in a situation that allowed the Refs and Penalties to effect the game.

 

[Black Warrior]

Watching Monday Night Football when Farve hits Randy Moss for a TD. The replay showed that Moss had his left arm in a "tent pole" position to separate him from the defender, actually pushing off, with just enough to make the catch pretty cleanly. The announcing team praised Moss's technique and no mention if that was illegal contact or not.
I say, if it's in the rule book, then either call the dang penalty or rip that page out of the rule book.

 

[Mamacalled]

IT was definitely a push off but we had a couple of calls go our way in that game also. things like this are expected with the SEC officiating crew.

 

[Squirrely]

Our young DB's have to learn from experience to keep this from happening.This technique by receivers happens all the time in football, and it the DB's job to fight it off. It gets called sometimes, but more than not it doesn't. It's always best to play sound techniques that prevent things like that from happening than to rely on refs to ball you out in a game. I'd be shocked if our receives aren't taught techniques(tricks of the trade) that gives them the edge too.

There is little tricks of the trade, sorta speak, in football that gives you the edge in match-ups. That's football no matter what end of the stick your on when it happens.

:BigA: ROLL TIDE :BigA:

 

[TideprideRTR]

Does anyone actually know the rule? Or is this just going to become a thread of how Miliner got beat/didn't... I would really like to know the rule if there even is one.

 

[RIP Jumbo Pkg]

There were several push offs by AJ. But we got him back when Dre mauled him, too bad he caught the ball with one hand and skated down the sideline. Oh Well, Ole Miss has 6'7 WR we gotta lookout for.

 

[thunderz7]

Yea that was a push-off should have been called.
As for the officials getting caught up in the spirit of the upset, I don't buy that;
considering we are talking SEC ref, it was the best called game we have had all year.
Our D-line was lined up off-sides 50% of teh time and only got called 3 times.
We got by with it all last year, with hardly any calls on it, this year it's gotten worse.
I have been complaining about it every game, and we finally got called.

 

[CmdrThor]

Does anyone actually know the rule? Or is this just going to become a thread of how Miliner got beat/didn't... I would really like to know the rule if there even is one.

It is Rule 7-3-8. The SEC (and any other group of officials) would have additional guidelines on what should and what should not be called as offensive or defensive pass interference.

Illegal Contact and Pass Interference​

ARTICLE 8. a. During a down in which a legal forward pass crosses the neutral
zone, illegal contact by Team A and Team B players is prohibited from the time
the ball is snapped until it is touched by any player or an official (A.R. 7-3-8-II
and III).
b. Offensive pass interference by a Team A player beyond the neutral zone
during a legal forward pass play in which a forward pass crosses the
neutral zone is contact that interferes with a Team B eligible player. It is
the responsibility of the offensive player to avoid the opponents. It is not
offensive pass interference (A.R. 7-3-8-VI, VII, XIII, XVIII and XIX):
1. When, after the snap, a Team A ineligible player immediately charges
and contacts an opponent at a point not more than one yard beyond the
neutral zone and does not continue the contact more than three yards
beyond the neutral zone.
2. When two or more eligible players are making a simultaneous and bona
fide attempt to reach, catch or bat the pass. Eligible players of either
team have equal rights to the ball (A.R. 7-3-8-XII).
3. When the pass is in flight and two or more eligible players are in the area
where they might receive or intercept the pass and an offensive player in​

that area impedes an opponent, and the pass is not catchable.

 

[CmdrThor]

It was COMPLETELY evident that Jeffery pushed off on Milliner on one touchdown reception...completely evident, and no call...I can't believe Milliner didn't complain, that's how green he is.

Complaining about officials' calls is poor sportsmanship and has spread like a plague throughout the game. Even kids in high school these days are doing the little flag throwing motion they see on TV on every other play. That is never going to affect an official's decision on what he sees, by the time you do that, he's already had to decide on what the call is.

I couldn't tell whether it was offensive pass interference from my vantage point in the south endzone upper deck, but my guess is he was probably beat. Winners man up and play better next time, they don't whine about the officiating.

 

[disneybama]

There was some contact, but not enough to complain about (IMO). He didn't push him to create separation or impede Milliner's shot at the ball. He was just trying to get in a position to make a play on the ball himself.

Either way, does it really matter? Time for Ole Miss.

:cheers2:

 

[BFANLC]

It is Rule 7-3-8. The SEC (and any other group of officials) would have additional guidelines on what should and what should not be called as offensive or defensive pass interference.

Illegal Contact and Pass Interference​

ARTICLE 8. a. During a down in which a legal forward pass crosses the neutral
zone, illegal contact by Team A and Team B players is prohibited from the time
the ball is snapped until it is touched by any player or an official (A.R. 7-3-8-II
and III).
b. Offensive pass interference by a Team A player beyond the neutral zone
during a legal forward pass play in which a forward pass crosses the
neutral zone is contact that interferes with a Team B eligible player. It is
the responsibility of the offensive player to avoid the opponents. It is not
offensive pass interference (A.R. 7-3-8-VI, VII, XIII, XVIII and XIX):
1. When, after the snap, a Team A ineligible player immediately charges
and contacts an opponent at a point not more than one yard beyond the
neutral zone and does not continue the contact more than three yards
beyond the neutral zone.
2. When two or more eligible players are making a simultaneous and bona
fide attempt to reach, catch or bat the pass. Eligible players of either
team have equal rights to the ball (A.R. 7-3-8-XII).
3. When the pass is in flight and two or more eligible players are in the area
where they might receive or intercept the pass and an offensive player in​

that area impedes an opponent, and the pass is not catchable.

Boy have the refs in the sec totally ignored that rule.

 

[BFANLC]

Anyone have a pic of the push off?

 

[psupoop]

Anyone have a pic of the push off?

Jeffery definitely put his hand out and impeded Milliner's forward progress...a simple viewing of the replay confirms this. Apparently it was not enough to draw the ref's eye.

 

[CapstoneGrad06]

Bull crap on getting beat. Yes he was behind him but not much as is the case on most run to the post plays. Jeffery pushed off to get the separation to make the catch. The other two great catches by the SC guy were simply awesome. Nobody stops those.

You need to watch more football, if you think that's going to get called every time. He was beat.

 

[kyallie]

Yea that was a push-off should have been called.
As for the officials getting caught up in the spirit of the upset, I don't buy that;
considering we are talking SEC ref, it was the best called game we have had all year.
Our D-line was lined up off-sides 50% of teh time and only got called 3 times.
We got by with it all last year, with hardly any calls on it, this year it's gotten worse.
I have been complaining about it every game, and we finally got called.

Can't argue with this. ^^^

I've noticed also lining up in the neutral zone,easily corrected,most of the time.