Tiger is gonna come out of hiding...

[crimson fan man]

No big deal, all tiger did was bring golf from a higher standard to the same level as football and basketball with the professional thuds that play the game. That is another plus to his resume to the platform of greatness.

 

[swoop10]

It's not respect for the game you're apparently worried about. It's respect for YOUR vision of how the game should be played or YOUR standard of decorum. I can't name every golfer I've seen cuss or throw a club or kick the turf when they mi.... a shot or catch a bad break. why? Cause I don't care. I'm watching a game, and they play it well.

Tiger Woods does hold himself to another standard...of play. And he's does his level best to get the rest of the field to rise to it...with limited success. I don't care if he drops an f-bomb or says dammit to himself after he shanks one. Why should I?

Just like JN doesn't care that that argument doesn't hold any water for me, there's not a single pro golfer who cares about your opinion of how the game should be played. Every Golfer on the pro tour has more respect for that particular game than you or I will ever have. Why? Because to get to that level it had to mean everything to them, and to a lot of them it still means everything.

How does JN know what level of respect of the game I think everyone should have? Man, I wish I knew JN had that much knowledge of how I thought the players should show respect for the game. JN is the one who criticized Tiger, not me. You need to think before you type because sometimes you go off on tangents that have nothing to do with what is being said.

 

[Relayer]

It was actually Tom Watson who voiced those criticisms of Tiger. I expect some of you will read something extra into that fact, too.

But Watson is right, of course. We can all have our own opinions of what it is to respect the game. They mean little to anyone but us. Champions of the professional game have are in the actual position to know what that means.

I have yet to see a great champion who throws his clubs and openly curses like Tiger. He needs to grow up a little. His latest missteps might help him understand that a little better.

He also needs to learn to respect his wife and marriage a bit more, also. No doubt some will even want to argue with that concept, also.

 

[rizolltizide]

Exactly

Golf is not worth watching without him, IMO

Explain this to me.

Edit: And why does Tiger playing make it worth watching?

 

[rizolltizide]

Perhaps, but I really don't care for the image of golf as a "gentlemen's game". The money involved has changed the sport - for the better. Players around the world are working harder. Scores are dropping, even as courses get more difficult. And the players are not as "docile" as they used to be.

Tiger may be a sexist and a jerk, but he is still the best to ever play the game. CNS curses like a sailor on the sidelines. I don't see many Bama fans ripping him for it...

What would be your preferred image of golf?

Money has changed all sports, I don't know if I would necessarily say for the better or not, but to each his own. And technology has more to do with scores dropping than anything else. The courses have been made to be more difficult as a result of the game being easier than it used to be as a result of the technology cheaply and readily available today. Seen anyone playing with a persimmon driver lately?

 

[DiamondDust]

Why would Tiger's profanity be offensive to people here, especially when this board routinely wishes people wouldn't be offended by so much? They are just words.

 

[dvldog]

I watch quite a bit of golf and I have not missed him, his ego, his caddy, or his caddy's ego for one second.

 

[rizolltizide]

I watch quite a bit of golf and I have not missed him, his ego, his caddy, or his caddy's ego for one second.

See, this makes sense to me. I understand that Tiger has broadened the "appeal" of golf to an audience they might not have once had. But if you are a fan of golf, I would think you would watch it regardless of who is or isn't playing. To not watch because of Tiger would be like not watching NFL football after Montana, or Marino, or any of your other favorites retired. It just makes no sense to me.

And I'm not a particularly huge fan of watching golf. I might catch 3-4 rounds per year on the tele, but it isn't becuase of who's playing, it's because of the event. Otherwise, I pick up my own bag and hit the course. Does much more for me.

Then again, my heroes have always been cowboys.

 

[swoop10]

Why would Tiger's profanity be offensive to people here, especially when this board routinely wishes people wouldn't be offended by so much? They are just words.

Who has said they were offended by anything Tiger Woods has done? It was pointed out that Jack Nicklaus called him out for not showing proper respect for the game. Someone else asked how he hadn't shown respect for the game and was told that his language and throwing clubs were what Jack Nicklaus was talking about. Really this isn't that hard. You read what each person has to say without putting your thoughts into what they post and you can understand what they are saying.

 

[Bama Reb]

See, this makes sense to me. I understand that Tiger has broadened the "appeal" of golf to an audience they might not have once had. But if you are a fan of golf, I would think you would watch it regardless of who is or isn't playing. To not watch because of Tiger would be like not watching NFL football after Montana, or Marino, or any of your other favorites retired. It just makes no sense to me.

And I'm not a particularly huge fan of watching golf. I might catch 3-4 rounds per year on the tele, but it isn't becuase of who's playing, it's because of the event. Otherwise, I pick up my own bag and hit the course. Does much more for me.

Then again, my heroes have always been cowboys.

For me to describe myself as "not a particularly huge fan of golf" is an understatement. I've never been a fan of golf by any measure. If I were any less of a fan, I'd be asking "Tiger? Woods? Huh? There's a tiger in the woods?".

 

[BAMA1979]

Most of Tiger's antics on the course don't bother me, but when he wants to throw a driver he should do so without hitting someone in the crowd. :biggrin2:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkgJ3TbaMgk]YouTube - Tiger Woods -- Throws club into the crowd[/ame]

 

[BAMA1979]

See, this makes sense to me. I understand that Tiger has broadened the "appeal" of golf to an audience they might not have once had. But if you are a fan of golf, I would think you would watch it regardless of who is or isn't playing. To not watch because of Tiger would be like not watching NFL football after Montana, or Marino, or any of your other favorites retired. It just makes no sense to me.

And I'm not a particularly huge fan of watching golf. I might catch 3-4 rounds per year on the tele, but it isn't becuase of who's playing, it's because of the event. Otherwise, I pick up my own bag and hit the course. Does much more for me.

Then again, my heroes have always been cowboys.

I completely agree. I watched the big golf events before Tiger and I'll watch them after Tiger, but I probably wouldn't watch the smaller events even if Tiger played in them.

If I have three or four hours to kill on a weekend afternoon I'm probably going to the course to play rather than watch other people play on television regardless of how great they are.

 

[happytidefan]

Simply put: He hits a little ball with a big stick and on a good day, it goes in a hole when it's supposed to...granted, he does this well, better than most, but tell me how that leads to any of us giving a darn that he gets caught with his pants down with 14 women? I am so unimpressed, unless of course, he does all the above in one day. Then we would really have something to talk about. :biggrin:

 

[RogueElephant]

I don't watch golf on TV and could care less about Tiger.

I just play golf.

 

[It's On A Slab]

Then again, my heroes have always been cowboys.

My heroes have always been paratroopers. Especially the tough ones that shun parachutes.

And daredevil dirigible jockeys.

 

[rizolltizide]

Simply put: He hits a little ball with a big stick and on a good day, it goes in a hole when it's supposed to...granted, he does this well, better than most, but tell me how that leads to any of us giving a darn that he gets caught with his pants down with 14 women? I am so unimpressed, unless of course, he does all the above in one day. Then we would really have something to talk about. :biggrin:

Where you been happy? He's been hittin' a lot more than a little ball.
:biggrin2:

 

[rizolltizide]

Then again, my heroes have always been cowboys.

My heroes have always been paratroopers. Especially the tough ones that shun parachutes.

And daredevil dirigible jockeys.

So let me be more specific...hard drinking, roll your own smoking, cowboys that ride into town and bang all the wimmenz, take all the preacher's money, and one by one kill every man in town with their bare hands.

But paratroopers are cool too.

 

[derek4tide]

I watch quite a bit of golf and I have not missed him, his ego, his caddy, or his caddy's ego for one second.

^^ THIS ^^

 

[wisten]

Bleh.. i could care less. Now I would care if my Calloway's tried to mate with wal*mart clubs...

 

[TommyMac]

Yeah and I've seen just about every other golfer do the same thing. They just don't have as many cameras on them.

If that is your example of not respecting the game. Fine now I know that argument holds no weight with me. Good to know.

Ah, the old "everybody does it" defense. Sorry pal, but even the announcers who generally praise him to high heaven mention his poor vocabulary on the course. And besides, he tries to portray himself as being so interested in encouraging and steering youngsters to golf with his 1st Tee program so shouldn't he be more of a role model for them and not show them such immature outbursts and blue language?

But there's more, if he's the be all, end all of golf, why doesn't he play in more tournaments and give more of the "common folks" a chance to see him perform. He only goes to the biggest, most lucrative tourneys and the majors. Fans at the smaller tournaments have zero chance of ever seeing him at their venue. Jack was bad about this too, but he did kinda put the smaller tourneys on his schedule on a rotating basis, no Tiger, he just completely blows them off. I'd say that's disrespecting the game. Some of those smaller tourneys gave him exemptions when he first started and was trying to earn his tour card without having to go through the Tour Qualifying School. In other words, loyalty is just a word in the dictionary for him. Don't belive me, ask Elin.