Prothro to join in suit against the NZAA

bamanut_aj

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say goodbye to EA Sports NCAA Football 20xx. They either need to make every player look identical, or start paying royalties to the players for their obvious look a likes.
 

Rasputin

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say goodbye to EA Sports NCAA Football 20xx. They either need to make every player look identical, or start paying royalties to the players for their obvious look a likes.
I understand where the players are coming from...but i agree, this is going to bring us back to Techno Super Bowl type football players...
 

bamanut_aj

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I understand where the players are coming from...but i agree, this is going to bring us back to Techno Super Bowl type football players...
then so be it. If someone uses your image for something to make money, you should be compensated. The NCAA in their infinite retardation claims that you surrender your image to them when you sign scholarship papers. BS. Hope the NCAA takes a high hard one and that some common sense and fairness prevails.
 

Rasputin

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then so be it. If someone uses your image for something to make money, you should be compensated. The NCAA in their infinite retardation claims that you surrender your image to them when you sign scholarship papers. BS. Hope the NCAA takes a high hard one and that some common sense and fairness prevails.
In all fairness to the NCAA, everytime I watch a commercial and see a male model selling X product, I see a resemblence almost every time...uncanny!

When do I get my check in the mail? :wink:
 

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I could see how Prothro would be more entitled since "The Catch" has been played over and over again for the past 4 season. But, he must be hurting for money or something, because that is all this thing is about.
 

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I'm not sure how EA gets hit by this at all. Using player numbers and skin color on a football game is very generalized. I understand the case against the NCAA is solid; however, I really feel like these former athletes are looking at this as an easy pay day. They have probably benefitted more from the use of their image than they'd like to admit.
 

bamanut_aj

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I'm not sure how EA gets hit by this at all. Using player numbers and skin color on a football game is very generalized. I understand the case against the NCAA is solid; however, I really feel like these former athletes are looking at this as an easy pay day. They have probably benefitted more from the use of their image than they'd like to admit.
if all it was was skin color and a number, you may be right. But have you seen the games lately? The QB for florida, for example, is not just a white dude wearing #15...it is clearly Tebow, and especially so when you do the zoom in replays. They make every player proportion to one another as they are in real life. If someone is going to use your likeness, you should be compensated.
 

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Wait. I didn't know the players even looked like their likenesses (granted, it's been about 5 years since I've played the game). I know the numbers are the same, but the names aren't on the jerseys.

But it wasn't like they had taken a picture of the players and modeled the computer image from that picture. Least, it didn't appear that way to me.

In any event, I'm not siding with the ncaa here at all. I'd love to see them get hammered.
 

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Instant No Button! Star Wars funnies FTW!

Not you to Prothro! I know a lot of people make money off of college athletes so I can understand their point of view but why ruin it for the fans of the game that like to play as their favorite teams? They already give us the option to change names, appearances etc. Maybe just make every player look the same and add random numbers. But at least give us the option to edit the players. Don't take that away from us.
 

RJ YellowHammer

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Let's face the facts. For years the NCAA has used the "amateur" status of its athletes as justification for the member institutions, not the players, profiting from the likenesses of scholarship athletes. How many # 15 jerseys do you think Florida sold pre-Tebow?

The video games (which I buy) are an extreme example. Anyone who thinks they aren't filled with digital representations of the players, sans their name, is fooling themselves.

I'm no attorney, but I would have to think that without a specific release, the players have a decent case. Chris Webber, Ed O'bannon and others have been pushing for monetary compensation for years. Imo, it's a fascinating question. Do the players own their image, even while under scholarship for an institution, or did they sign away their image when they accepted their scholarship?
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The players don't look exactly the same. All of the faces are generic, as are the body types. You can personally customize any player you want on the game, but they don't come out of the box looking identical to their real-life counterparts.

I don't have any problem with the former players being compensated, but this isn't a game about former players. It's a game about current schools with unnamed rosters.
 

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if all it was was skin color and a number, you may be right. But have you seen the games lately? The QB for florida, for example, is not just a white dude wearing #15...it is clearly Tebow, and especially so when you do the zoom in replays. They make every player proportion to one another as they are in real life. If someone is going to use your likeness, you should be compensated.
It is going to be hard to prove that EA specifically made "White QB #15" look exactly like Tebow. There is no name, only a skin color (most QB's are white), a number (could claim it was a random incident and use the fact that players don't own numbers), and his face (he's wearing a helmet and they could claim many people 'look' similar to Tebow). A good lawyer should be able to keep EA out of trouble. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I'm guessing that EA isn't going to be bothered by this. A lot of people have knee-jerk reactions to this (ie: "Well, there goes our video games!"), but the bottom line is that a major company like EA will have the best spin doctors and lawyers on their side and will get out of trouble without incident.

In one of my early English classes, I did an essay on why college athletes should be compensated and how to do so. I obviously made a high A on the essay. I think it is a very intriguing question, and one that should be discussed in the future.
 
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RJ YellowHammer

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The players don't look exactly the same. All of the faces are generic, as are the body types. You can personally customize any player you want on the game, but they don't come out of the box looking identical to their real-life counterparts.

I don't have any problem with the former players being compensated, but this isn't a game about former players. It's a game about current schools with unnamed rosters.
Who are these guys?




 

Rasputin

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It is going to be hard to prove that EA specifically made "White QB #15" look exactly like Tebow. There is no name, only a skin color (most QB's are white), a number (could claim it was a random incident and use the fact that players don't own numbers), and his face (he's wearing a helmet and they could claim many people 'look' similar to Tebow). A good lawyer should be able to keep EA out of trouble. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I'm guessing that EA isn't going to be bothered by this. A lot of people have knee-jerk reactions to this (ie: "Well, there goes our video games!"), but the bottom line is that a major company like EA will have the best spin doctors and lawyers on their side and will get out of trouble without incident.

In one of my early English classes, I did an essay on why college athletes should be compensated and how to do so. I obviously made a high A on the essay. I think it is a very intriguing question, and one that should be discussed in the future.
You could claim the number was random if it was only Tebow that was in question, but when the whole video game has every starter's number starting, and the image resembles them, then the randomization idea goes out...
 

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I thought college players on scolarship were already bieng compensated with a FREE education and somewhere to lay their heads.Guys should really take advantage of a FREE education and get a degree that will help earn them some money.There is life after football for college players.Some just get it sooner than others.
 

Saban14

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You could claim the number was random if it was only Tebow that was in question, but when the whole video game has every starter's number starting, and the image resembles them, then the randomization idea goes out...
Big deal. EA just states the facts: PLAYERS DO NOT OWN PLAYER NUMBERS. That whole idea is laughable. Also, look at the 'players' in question. About 30,000,000 white guys in the USA look similar to "Tebow's" likeness. In fact, I really had no idea that Tebow had such a bland face.