We Have A Major Problem That We Must Address
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I think it works better with a pro team than a college team. The pros seldom play much on emotion, except some grudge games and playoffs. Other than that, they play with a businesslike mind set. Some of our players are as young as 18. When we tighten down on offense, I think it just sucks all the oxygen out of the room. When they see TR and MI unable to gain any meaningful yardage against a stacked box, I think they just get down quickly. Against UTx, we were able to open it back up. Last night, we didn't really try. I know there's a total thread on it, but I gritted my teeth each time I saw the wildcat. Auburn just shifted over in front of DJ. Not enough hats...
I believe the return of the two suspended D-linemen in the second half had a much greater impact than most people realized. They had absolutely no pass rush in the 1st half and in the 2nd half GM had no time to throw the ball. When those two players came back Auburn knew GM's time to throw was going to go way down so the secondary came up tight and stopped worrying about getting beat deep. That was the difference in the game.
Before the pitch forks, crosses and nails come out on CNS. Lets remember this about coaches. They come with strengths and weaknesses. Most defenses minded head coaches are more "wide open" with their defense and run a relatively conservative offense. On the opposite side of the spectrum most offensive minded coaches are more "wide open" with their offenses but have defenses that are subpar.
There is no perfect coach, other than Coach Bryant of course.
Saban's "best teams" are those that are loaded on defense and run a conservative style offense. To be honest. The offenses he's run here at bama has been some of the most wide open offenses he's ever allowed any of his college teams run. He's loosened up a lot. So don't give up on him just yet from an offensive perspective. We might see a little more change next season. Look at it from a big picture perspective. We've lost 5 games since 2008 and won like 35. We're coming off a 14-0 BCS National Championship season and we still won 9 regular season games when many teams barely win 8 in the season after their championship year.
There is no perfect coach, other than Coach Bryant of course.
Saban's "best teams" are those that are loaded on defense and run a conservative style offense. To be honest. The offenses he's run here at bama has been some of the most wide open offenses he's ever allowed any of his college teams run. He's loosened up a lot. So don't give up on him just yet from an offensive perspective. We might see a little more change next season. Look at it from a big picture perspective. We've lost 5 games since 2008 and won like 35. We're coming off a 14-0 BCS National Championship season and we still won 9 regular season games when many teams barely win 8 in the season after their championship year.Our problem yesterday was the lack of execution. We left 21 points on the field because of 2 fumbles and a dropped pass for a TD. Our offensive line did a great job in the first half but got ran over in the 2nd half because the Barners wanted it more. We have to remember we lost 2 of o-ur best receivers late in the game when A.J. came in. He did what he was suppose to do and again, execution came into play and we did not catch the passes thrown to our receivers.
The play calling has to come into question. With the weapons we have on offense, it is too predictable. You cannot do that in the SEC or you will get eaten up.
I will still take a 9-3 season compared to Floridas 7-5 or 6-6 and Texas's 5-7. This reminds me of the 93 season, 9-3-1, except we made it to the SECCG. Hopefully we get things fixed and repeat the 94 season next season.
The play calling has to come into question. With the weapons we have on offense, it is too predictable. You cannot do that in the SEC or you will get eaten up.
I will still take a 9-3 season compared to Floridas 7-5 or 6-6 and Texas's 5-7. This reminds me of the 93 season, 9-3-1, except we made it to the SECCG. Hopefully we get things fixed and repeat the 94 season next season.
I was hoping that our passing game would open up the run, but that never happened. If we could have run the football some in the 2nd half we could have took the air out of it. Giving up the big plays on defense, and blown opportunities in the redzone cost us this game. Playing a team with an offense as good as Auburn's you have to score touchdowns when giving the chance!
Hopefully next season we won't give up as many explosive plays on defense, and our offensive line will be able to get more push!
Hopefully next season we won't give up as many explosive plays on defense, and our offensive line will be able to get more push!
Hard for the skill positions to do their jobs when the offensive line is getting whipped. There is no substitute for experience, and Auburn having an experienced offensive line filled with 4 seniors has been critical to their success.
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I agreed with most of the rest of your post until this crap came out of left field
But let's not forget (no bricks in my window please
- we only made the 93 SECCG because Auburn was on probation. If they were on probation this year, we wouldn't make it because LSU would.So in essence it was the same year. We lost to LSU and Auburn (just like 93) and we can no longer tie a foe so USCe beat us.
I have too agree with this anology,I don't see anything I disagree with except with the word Hell,I had a moderator remove one of my threads way back for not a word but this comment, went something like this, if it smells like ___ it must be ___. I have also seen other mods and posters say words that make me think of what happened to to me,this is not intended toward you,just the Mod who removed my thread.
Thanks for letting me vent I originally was just going to say,I agree with your anology! ROLL TIDE:BigA::BigA::BigA:
One thing will fix most of the problems we've seen this year: a dominant running game! In the off season we need to develop some nastiness. This is why we haven't consistently won the 4th quarter this year. Can't force our will and control the Los.
I agree that sometimes our approach flattens out how the guys are feeling. Along the same lines, it also seemed as if this year's team wasn't really having much fun (not to sound trite). With the pressure of the preseason rankings, the media coverage and everyone's expectations, it seemed as if everything about our guys was "tight". There is, or should be, a fundamental difference between the college experience and the pro experience. We looked like we were "clocking in for work" and then "clocking out" after our shift, and not much enjoying anything in between.. I understand that approach, but where's the joy in what you're doing? This (the college experience) isn't a job, although many of our guys will end up as professionals. At its best, emotion is an integral part of the college game and one that makes college ball so enjoyable. I hope we lighten up a bit, shake things up, take a look at doing things differently, have some fun. Winning cures most ills (as a friend of mine says, "Winning doesn't suck") but you can't go through the entire season uptight, frustrated and trying too hard. It is a serious, big money business, of course, but you can push so hard that the chemistry isn't there and nothing gels.
I agree. If you can control the LOS you will win a lot of football games. This year Auburn had the experienced offensive line..next year we will! You can win a lot of football games by running the football, and being hard to score on. IMO Saban's record of high accomplishment speaks for itself.There is no perfect coach, other than Coach Bryant of course.
tide-hsv hit it, the play calling, first half we were wide open with the plays and then in the second half i was yelling at the tv because i knew where the play was going. as far as the o-line considering the right side was being manned by 2 redshirt freshmen going against jrs and srs not going to dominate alot of teams with that combo
Auburn showed some of this yesterday. I will never want to see our players jumping around like monkeys on crack like I saw yesterday at the end of the game, but everytime something went against Auburn (after the 1st quarter that is), they responded with a play and responded with positive emotion. I think that our team, for whatever reason, didn't respond (and I think it's a multitude of small things that added up to a big problem, as opposed to one glaring problem), or are looking to others to respond. We've seen Ingram hurt all year, Richardson has been on/off all year, McElroy has been on/off all year, Julio has been awesome when he's healthy, but no one else. Props to Barron for still playing with a torn pectoral muscle, but he's playing with literally 1 arm.
We all know CNS will re-evaluate the program from top to bottom. Does that mean heads will roll? I don't think so. If I had to pick one problem, I would point to youth and lack of leadership. Last year, anytime we had a setback, we responded. Leaders responded. Players made plays. This year, with the exception of the Arkansas game, we didn't respond. To me, to go from being able to respond to not being able to respond is indicative of youth/lack of leadership. I hope this loss (and this season) leaves a bad taste in the returning players' mouth, and it should.
Frankly, I'm not all that upset over this loss. Does it sting? Absolutely. But with the way college football is, the extremely small margin of error in the SEC (and nation-wide as well), a successful college football program is mainly defined by 2 things: 1) Are you in contention for a national championship every year or every other year, and, 2) Are you staying out of NCAA trouble? I think we've had a fairly good start on both standards, but we gotta keep that going. Players have to use this season's experiences and learn from them. Coaches have re-evaluate what they do (good and bad), and what kinds of improvements/adjustments that can be made in the off-season.
Let's heal up for the bowl game, finish the season with another 10-win season, and get ready for the next season. We'll return the favor to LSU and Auburn.
This almost exactly what I was going to post, except probably less eloquently.:wink: CNS is an old school coach, and I wouldn't trade him for anyone. However, in the era of wide-open spread offenses, you can go can't go ultra conservative after halftime. The great coaches adapt. Bryant did in it 1970. Paterno did it a few years ago. I'm confident CNS will address with this.
Even considering all of these items, Bama showed all that they are capable of playing to an extremely high level of play and should be able to do so for more than just one or two quarters per game. Bama is the best team in the nation when playing at their highest level of play - it is not unreasonable for fans to expect that kind of performance during ALL games and for the COMPLETE game.
I realize this is extremely difficult to accomplish with all of the unknowns surrounding each and every game; but, that is exactly why we have the best facilities, coaches, and Program process in place. To be the best program in the nation we have provided the best opportunity for our team to be successful. There is simply no excuse for Bama not achieving to the highest level. A 9-3 or 10-3 season is OK for a pretty good team; but it is not OK for a team which has demonstrated (for limited periods in several different games) that it can be an exceptional team when performing at a very high level of success. That said, Roll Tide Roll, and lets pick ourselves up for the next round!
Mr. Nail, meet Mr. Hammer. Earle, I was saying this from our first posession of the second half. They're gonna go vanilla on us and lose this game. We've all watched all season how teams like Auburn and Oregon can put up tons of points on any team they play, and we put it on cruise control and cruised right into the L column. Earle, you're 100% correct.
We've always allowed the words "hell" and "damn." I don't like to see them used as punctuation marks, but I'll occasionally use them for emphasis. However, your example, if that's what was actually removed, is a correct deletion under our rules. The scat word is prohibited and any remark which clearly implies that word (or any of the others on the prohibited list) will be removed...
