Why all the Mullen love?

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The past 2 games I have watched him scream at the refs for calling unsportmanlike conduct calls against his players. Some of these were very obvious. At this point you would think he would be yelling at the player not the refs. He needs to stop yelling at the refs so much and get control of the players and their actions.
What? He's imitating Chicklets now? OK, he's on a downhill slide now...:conf2:
 

graydogg85

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A 9-4 season in 2010 capped by a whipping of Michigan in the Gator Bowl probably qualifies as one of the best seasons in school history for MSU. Possibly the best season in school history. So I can understand the hype. In spite of the two early losses this season, that program is considerably more competitive and dangerous than they were under Croom. Mullen has increased fan support and morale tenfold in Starkville. Recruiting has improved. They've continued to play solid defense (which they did under Croom), and the offensive play has improved tremendously. I think Dan's done a heck of a job out there.

Ironically enough, perhaps the biggest reinforcment of Mullen's coaching ability was the disintegration of Florida's offense under Steve Addazio after he left. Florida had perhaps the best offense in the country in 2007 and 2008, and in 2009 - with virtually the same group of players working under Addazio - production dipped significantly. And we all know what happened at UF last season. I think it's clear that while Urban Meyer gets a lot of credit for the success of the spread option, the real brains behind the scheme are in Starkville.
 

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Jackie Sherrell?

They routinely whipped our butts when he was there, or they would give us fits. Some of the toughest games on the schedule back then were the MSU games. Of course they were cheating while they did it. But I don't remember the details of their probation.
You can say the same for Southern Miss, but does that mean Jeff Bowers had great success at USM? And what does that say about your program when your success is predicated on playing ONE team tough?
 

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AI think it's clear that while Urban Meyer gets a lot of credit for the success of the spread option, the real brains behind the scheme are in Starkville.
So what happened, did he lose about 30 IQ points when he stepped foot into Starkville? The play calling last night was pretty bad for about half the game, pretty good for about half the game, but never anything remotely approaching brilliant.

And don't bring up the players or execution - if every offense executed perfectly all the time, every offense would be awesome.

Three straight draw plays inside the 10 yards line against LSU's defense?
 

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A 9-4 season in 2010 capped by a whipping of Michigan in the Gator Bowl probably qualifies as one of the best seasons in school history for MSU. Possibly the best season in school history. So I can understand the hype. In spite of the two early losses this season, that program is considerably more competitive and dangerous than they were under Croom. Mullen has increased fan support and morale tenfold in Starkville. Recruiting has improved. They've continued to play solid defense (which they did under Croom), and the offensive play has improved tremendously. I think Dan's done a heck of a job out there.

Ironically enough, perhaps the biggest reinforcment of Mullen's coaching ability was the disintegration of Florida's offense under Steve Addazio after he left. Florida had perhaps the best offense in the country in 2007 and 2008, and in 2009 - with virtually the same group of players working under Addazio - production dipped significantly. And we all know what happened at UF last season. I think it's clear that while Urban Meyer gets a lot of credit for the success of the spread option, the real brains behind the scheme are in Starkville.
I'm not really disagreeing with you, but 1998 and 1999 were both pretty good years for MSU.

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1998 SEC Western Division Champions
In 1998, MSU finished the regular season with a 26-14 win over Alabama, a 22-21 win over Arkansas, and a 28-6 win over Ole Miss in Oxford, MS. At the end of the regular season, both MSU and Arkansas finished with 6-2 conference records, but by virtue of MSU's head-to-head win over Arkansas, MSU earned the right to play in the 1998 SEC Championship Game as SEC Western Division Champions. In that game, MSU was leading Tennessee in the fourth quarter before falling 24-14 before 74,000 fans in the Georgia Dome. They continued on to play in the Southwestern Bell Cotton Bowl Classic in Dallas, Texas, against a heavily favored Texas Longhorns team. The Bulldogs lost the game 38 to 11.

1999 Season
The 1999 Bulldog team finished their season with a 10–2 record, earning a final ranking of #12 nationally. During the 1999 season MSU fielded the #1 ranked defense in the country. MSU beat in-state rival Ole Miss to finish the regular season. It was Jackie Sherrill's 6th win in his first 9 games against the Rebels. In the bowl game, the Bulldogs defeated Clemson in the Peach Bowl, 17–7 to finish 10-2 and ranked #12. That #12 ranking is the highest final ranking of any FBS Division team in the State of Mississippi in over 40 years.
 

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Mississippi State finished with 9 wins last year. As someone who went to college there, let's just say making a bowl game is cause for celebration.

MSU has always been kind of the #3 team in the SEC in regards to the "worst" - with only Kentucky (who has basketball) and Vanderbilt (who probably doesn't care that much) as the only teams they were consistently better than.

Couple that with the fact that he is, technically, undefeated against their primary rival (Ole Miss) and you have a coach who has every right to be on the upswing - for MSU fans.

That said, outside of the state of Mississippi? Not so much.
 

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You have to wonder though...had Cam stuck with MSU and played there last season instead of Auburn...where would both programs be today? It's obvious Auburn would have ended up maybe 6-6 or 7-5 last season...but where would MSU have ended up? Same record? Could Mullen have taken them all the way? No one thought anyone...much less Gene Chizik...could take Auburn to 14-0.

What I saw last night was timid playcalling and timid execution. Most of that was due to LSU's smothering defense. One thing they do better than anyone else in the country is get to the QB. The entire second half for MSU was garbage and they might as well have been losing 49-0 as scared as they looked. Mullen did not have his guys ready to fight in the second half and it showed. Can't help but think of how we looked in the Iron Bowl last year in the second half. Some teams have the will and desire to dominate every play...LSU has that right now...MSU is nowhere close...and both were on display last night.
 

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solid. care to continue?
Nah..nothing really to share...wanted to play for Bama badly but they didn't want me. Miss. St. (Sherrill), Ole Miss (Tubbs....Cutcliffe and his staff didn't like me as a player), and subsequently Auburn (Tubbs again), Arkansas (Nutt...although I never talked to him directly..Fitz Hill was his point man on me), Army, Harvard, and Penn (not Penn St.) recruited the hardest of D1 schools. None of these schollies were full ride anyway. But I had the academics, so it wasn't a problem. In any event, I just didn't have any support from anyone (coaches, counselors, etc.) in terms of getting game film and other information out to the schools. So when it came down to it, the interest just waned and the letters stopped. This was before the internet was in just about every home, so I had no way of doing the research myself. Either way, wound up tearing my ankle up the next to last game of my senior year. Went through a bout of depression..Wound up just going to school at UA. When I got here, I thought about walking on. Had a cousin who was on the scout team. He gave me Dabo's (who was the walk-on coordinator at the time) number. I called him. And he was brutally honest with me, and to this day I respect him a great deal for that. This was Dubose's last year. In so many words, he told me I'd be wasting my time since there was so much turmoil at the time. So there went my dream of playing football..

So...I'm making sure that other kids in my situation won't have the excuse of no exposure to not at least take a shot. I know some kids aren't like me and have the academics to fall back on. So I added a division to my graphic design company that is specifically catered to kids from low income/single parent situations that need highlight films created/edited, etc. I'll just live vicariously through them.

Oh..and by the way...back to the point, the best part of my recruiting trip to MSU was the BBQ. The women left a lot to be desired. My Ole Miss official visit was Tubbs's last Egg Bowl there. We had no idea he was gonna be leaving to go to Auburn. The MSU fans chanted "Auburn" the whole game. We had no clue what it was about. We were supposed to meet with him after the game but he wasn't available. Got home that night..turned on SportsCenter and pow....That's why I've never had anything negative to say about Tubbs. I've met & dealt with him one on one. And all I can go on is our interactions. He's a good man.
 
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Hence, some of my comments in the LSU thread about that game...MSU's offense/playcalling was uber predictable...MSU is over ranked at 25th or whatever they were.


So what happened, did he lose about 30 IQ points when he stepped foot into Starkville? The play calling last night was pretty bad for about half the game, pretty good for about half the game, but never anything remotely approaching brilliant.

And don't bring up the players or execution - if every offense executed perfectly all the time, every offense would be awesome.

Three straight draw plays inside the 10 yards line against LSU's defense?
 

graydogg85

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So what happened, did he lose about 30 IQ points when he stepped foot into Starkville? The play calling last night was pretty bad for about half the game, pretty good for about half the game, but never anything remotely approaching brilliant.

And don't bring up the players or execution - if every offense executed perfectly all the time, every offense would be awesome.

Three straight draw plays inside the 10 yards line against LSU's defense?
I agree with you. Mullen has a tendency to either over-scheme or under-scheme his way out of these big games. He called a pretty timid game against Alabama last season. All I'm saying is that no one can deny how much Florida's production dipped in 2009 with much of the same cast from the previous year.
 

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